infinite_array Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Hello! I'm about to start pinning my first metal models. Now, I do have a Dremel drill, and I've read tutorials on how to do it. My only problem is, what's the appropriate size bit for paperclips? I'm referring to the standard kind that come in the 100 count OfficeMax little boxes - the box says #1 size, but I can't tell if that's an actual size (which I doubt) or just the preferred size in the country. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213603-pinning-and-paper-clips/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemal Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Standard smallish paper clips will work with a 1 mm drillbit, I really WOULDN'T use a dremel for doing this srt of work unless you have a REALLY SLOW speed setting - as control is always a problem Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213603-pinning-and-paper-clips/#findComment-2541691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CainTheHunter Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 You just compare the clip diameter with that of the drill and voila. I am using different types of paper clips for different purposes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213603-pinning-and-paper-clips/#findComment-2541696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCC Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Standard smallish paper clips will work with a 1 mm drillbit, I really WOULDN'T use a dremel for doing this srt of work unless you have a REALLY SLOW speed setting - as control is always a problem Quoted for emphasis :D And if you do use a Dremel, even on a really slow speed, please use a vise and not your free hand to hold whatever you're drilling. Better yet spend a few bob on a hobby drill (aka pin vise), the GW one is quite good but any decent hobby store will carry a variety of drills and drill bits that are much better suited than a Dremel for pinning or drilling out bolter barrels etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213603-pinning-and-paper-clips/#findComment-2541740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Hello! I'm about to start pinning my first metal models. Now, I do have a Dremel drill, and I've read tutorials on how to do it. My only problem is, what's the appropriate size bit for paperclips? I'm referring to the standard kind that come in the 100 count OfficeMax little boxes - the box says #1 size, but I can't tell if that's an actual size (which I doubt) or just the preferred size in the country. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance! A standard paperclip is .047" (3/64" or 1.181mm) in diameter which equals a #56 bit. I, too, have a Dremel with variable speed but for most work I still find the pin vise is a quicker, more precise, and safer option. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213603-pinning-and-paper-clips/#findComment-2541748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanhausen Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 I'd say 1 mm bit is more than enough... but comparing the actual wire to the bit sounds like a good advice :D Also, I'd suggest using a manual drill. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213603-pinning-and-paper-clips/#findComment-2541764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerryrich Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 and if you dont feel like going out n buying a hand drill you can always use an old exacto blade handle. i had gotten a second one so i just used one as a home made drill. if you end up with a bit that is alittle to small to be held snuggly, just wrap a small piece of painter/ masking tape around the base of it. this has worked well for me and saved me a few dollars. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213603-pinning-and-paper-clips/#findComment-2541778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinite_array Posted October 21, 2010 Author Share Posted October 21, 2010 Well! Thanks a lot for all the replies and advice. It sounds as if I may just want to go out and grab a hand drill instead of trying to use the Dremel. Looks like I'll be taking a quick trip to the local hobby store. Again, thanks a lot. I really don't want to screw up (too badly!) on my first attempt. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213603-pinning-and-paper-clips/#findComment-2541869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarKHaZZ13 Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Well! Thanks a lot for all the replies and advice. It sounds as if I may just want to go out and grab a hand drill instead of trying to use the Dremel. Looks like I'll be taking a quick trip to the local hobby store. Again, thanks a lot. I really don't want to screw up (too badly!) on my first attempt. good decision. The GW one is exactly the right size for your standerd paper clip. keep the dremel though. it will come in handy in conversion work...especially for stuff like magents, removing heads and so on. good look mate. just take it slow and you'll be fine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213603-pinning-and-paper-clips/#findComment-2541874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanhausen Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 And keep your hands out of the way :P BTW, I have 2 drills, one 15 and the other like 12 years old... and beyond the drills that came originally with the GW one I've only had to buy a 2 and 3 mm bit, thats it. And I've magnetized 30+ terminators... that like 120 magnets :P Plus LRC, Predators... etc. Drill is probably the most usefull tool along with a DECENT exacto knife and DECENT sculpting tools. I'd say for 30 Euros or so, you won't need more tools in your life! But make sure you buy the appropiate things :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213603-pinning-and-paper-clips/#findComment-2541879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinite_array Posted October 21, 2010 Author Share Posted October 21, 2010 The GW one is exactly the right size for your standerd paper clip. Now, I've heard both good and bad remarks concerning GW's hand drill. While people say you can get others for cheaper, others state that you're paying for quality. Any thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213603-pinning-and-paper-clips/#findComment-2541944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemal Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 GW pin vice is good and a nice quality - there are better ones on teh market, but the GW piece is right there and easy to get hold of. SHopping around might yield better results - but then again, it might not as well... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213603-pinning-and-paper-clips/#findComment-2541998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neisseria Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 I bought my GW one just to drill out a few bolter barrels and thought it would be an ok tool for the job, but it surpassed all my expectations. It's probably one of the best things I've ever purchased from GW - it feels stable, accurate and the supplied bits are nice and sharp. Perhaps of more use to you, I can tell you that it worked fine for pinning a plastic broodlord conversion to a base using a section of paperclip (crazy pose, don't ask). Highly recommended, although I've not tried other brands. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213603-pinning-and-paper-clips/#findComment-2542054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinite_array Posted October 22, 2010 Author Share Posted October 22, 2010 Hey, everyone! Just wanted to drop by and say thanks so much! I picked up the GW drill and some green stuff while at the weekly 40k event tonight. When I got back, I got right to work. Now, I'm looking at a bunch of fantastic looking metal models who aren't falling apart! You guys are fantastic. Thanks again! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213603-pinning-and-paper-clips/#findComment-2542497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemal Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 No bother - glad it all worked out great for you! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213603-pinning-and-paper-clips/#findComment-2542559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanhausen Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 Not true Hemal... you forgot to mention we have a 20 Euro fee PER POST of advice... :D Can you post some pics of what you used the drill for? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213603-pinning-and-paper-clips/#findComment-2542569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemal Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 Lo - yeah forgot abt that (looks shiftily aside) - read the.... forum rules...its in the really small print.... :) "though shalt crease Hemal's palm with silver..." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213603-pinning-and-paper-clips/#findComment-2542619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinite_array Posted October 23, 2010 Author Share Posted October 23, 2010 I'll try to post some pics when I get the chance. Although I'm not entirely sure you guys'll be happy with the subject matter! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213603-pinning-and-paper-clips/#findComment-2543127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanhausen Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Happy on the subject? Regardless of the result, I'd rather see the progress and how you solve problems you come accross :lol: If what you mean is that the model is non-power armour... I don't know if that's a problem with board rules :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213603-pinning-and-paper-clips/#findComment-2544487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemal Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 If its non Board related, pls don't post it, but glad to hear that it was useful info all teh same... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213603-pinning-and-paper-clips/#findComment-2544511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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