My loganwing

[Ladislao]

The thing is, cyclone launchers are generally considered better then assault cannons. as 2 frag or krak missiles at 48 inches is generally "better" then 4 str 6 rending shots at 24 inches.

 

I have 1 squad with an assault cannon in my list, and 2-3 cyclone launchers. and I think it would be better to replace the assault cannon but i like the model i made :P

 

I also think logan/wolf wing's work better with a squad of longfangs along, as it lets you take 5man terminator squads, then attach one away to make space in a drop pod, or to make a nice alpha strike drop pod with logan, 6 longfangs with 5 missiles and a cyclone launcher attached which can fire due to relentless, but I am keeping my army "pure" for the moment to learn all the ups and downs of using pure termies :)

 

Yes, i think so too, and my next match will be played in this way.

 

The assault cannon... lack specialization: with the old rending rule, and taking 2 for every squad.. well it was worth... but now? agains mc and and even marines, the cyclone is better, against hordes, heavy flamer is better...

[caruso]

Hi Ladislao!!!

 

Nice to find an italian player here!!!

I'm following your progress with the Loganwing because I also play with something similar.

My list, at 1750 poit is:

 

Logan + Njal in TDA

10 terminators with 2 assault cannon, 3 storm shield, 1 combimelta, 4 wolf claw and 2 chainfist

5 terminators with cyclone, 2 shield, 1 combiplasma and 1 chainfist

5 terminators with cyclone, 2 shield, 1 combiplasma and 1 chainfist

5 scouts with melta and guard in pa with fist and combimelta

5 scouts with melta and guard in pa with fist and combimelta

 

It is a slow army but very hard to kill (and very hard to manage). I've played about 10 match with it, with little modification and i think that 2 squads of scout are the most effective threat to many kind of army.

 

See you at LA ZANNA!!! :wub:

[Ladislao]

It's time for another battle report!

 

First of all, i changed a bit my army... i taken away the squad Heinerjar... in it's place, i used 6 long fangs with 5 missile launcher.

 

For this game, my opponent is the usual guard player, till now the score is 1 victory and 2 draws

 

The game was 4 objective, spear head

I begun.

 

I deployed the long fangs, with the rune priest, and a wolf guard termy with ciclone as pack leader ( too free a place on a drop pod ) on a ruin over an objective, the ten man termy near the centre, to be able to act where they are needed

 

This is the deployment, the objectives are in the red circles

 

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_EI-leQujhOQ/TOeqSgeUSOI/AAAAAAAAA-g/rIxEk2ND_js/s800/modificata.jpg

 

a close up of my enemy array

 

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_EI-leQujhOQ/TOP6X8UUcRI/AAAAAAAAA6U/IcubL7os3NU/s800/PB150552.JPG

 

 

Turn one!

 

First of all my drop pods! I sent them near the enemy line, one with the coloured squad, hit, the lat one, with 4 termy and logan, scattered 3 inches back... near an onjective, good!

 

The ten man squad moved toward the 2 central objectives

 

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_EI-leQujhOQ/TOP6Zlz_rAI/AAAAAAAAA6c/me1e_n5RG_U/s800/PB150554.JPG

 

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_EI-leQujhOQ/TOP6YosliwI/AAAAAAAAA6Y/v3iukDOrr0c/s800/PB150553.JPG

 

Now it's fire turn... let's try the new long fangs against the nasty las cannons... the rune priest did his psionic test, launching 6 lightning!!!!!, So, 7, afyter 7 rolls to hit fot the missiles, and 6 for the rune priest, one single missile hit... killing a laser, at least!

 

The 10 man squad did the same with the other laz team but killing 2, the squad with logan killed some random guard... the painted squad triend to hit the manticora in the flank with the cyclone.. but it was one of these situation in wich the squad cannot see the side wich they are firing at, so the 3+ coves save saved the manticora.

 

At the end of the phase,one of the laz team ( the one with 2 lasers left) ran away :(

 

Now his turn... he moved some squad to fully shield the biggest units from the CC, and nothing more... in the fire phase, he shot at the long fangs, wound 3, killing one and...pinning them!

 

With the single laz cannon left and the light fire, he killed 2 termy from the painted squad

 

 

turn 2!

 

In movement phase nothing exiting happened... in fire phase i shot ad the manticora with the ten mans sqad, doing nothing.

 

The logan squad opened a breach for the painted one tho charge a big prey

 

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_EI-leQujhOQ/TOP6bSn9rPI/AAAAAAAAA6k/lAkAvigdPn4/s800/PB150556.JPG

 

In assault phase, the painted one charged a 20 mand squad and a little command squad, making the latter ran away,

 

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_EI-leQujhOQ/TOP6cb2I2MI/AAAAAAAAA6o/qsbLG5NZqj4/s800/PB150557.JPG

 

Logan and his bodyguards charged a screen unit, slayng it

 

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_EI-leQujhOQ/TOP6dR4lgII/AAAAAAAAA6s/f_VRWNAsIHo/s800/PB150558.JPG

 

 

 

To be continued!

[Ladislao]

Time to continue the battle report!

 

The turn 2 finish with logan and his buddies hiding behind a ruin

 

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_EI-leQujhOQ/TOP6ftXHgHI/AAAAAAAAA60/8vnB_V7PXZU/s800/PB150560.JPG

 

Turn 3 open with a big problem this

 

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_EI-leQujhOQ/TOP6gi1s5JI/AAAAAAAAA64/vAJEzlt7puY/s800/PB150561.JPG

 

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_EI-leQujhOQ/TOP6hptwNTI/AAAAAAAAA68/pExAutyXfOs/s800/PB150562.JPG

 

10 veterans with 3 melta from the valkirie, 10 veterans with 3 melta form the tablke edge

 

and 10 storm trooper from aip, near my long fangs

 

For something like an inch, the veterans from table edge were too far to shot, while the squad from the valkyrie killed a termy

 

The stormtrooper however, did a greater damage, killing 3 long fangs!

 

In assault phase the humble gi infantry squad killed 2 of my termies!!!!

 

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_EI-leQujhOQ/TOP6i-nKDbI/AAAAAAAAA7A/TuAQzvst9iY/s800/PB150563.JPG

 

My turn! The plan is simple! Shoot at he valkirye squad with my surviving long fang.... done!

 

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_EI-leQujhOQ/TOP6j3iGM4I/AAAAAAAAA7E/9HZW9VMtPDI/s800/PB150564.JPG

 

Do the same at the squad form the table edge with the termy... done!

 

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_EI-leQujhOQ/TOP6kigGhtI/AAAAAAAAA7I/ChpYxjk5Muo/s800/PB150565.JPG

 

Detach the rune priest from the long fangs, try to kill some of them with living cyclone... double 6! failed!

 

in assault phase, logan and his termy squad procede to slay another 20 man strong gi squad

 

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_EI-leQujhOQ/TOP6ljqBcrI/AAAAAAAAA7M/5H66uKpXzt0/s800/PB150566.JPG

 

The rune priest charged the stoorm trooper... doing 0 kills, but not dying

 

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_EI-leQujhOQ/TOP7p769ERI/AAAAAAAAA7o/10OYMPkuwJw/s800/PB150567.JPG

[Ladislao]

His turn... he did little, fired at the squad with logan, killing one termy

 

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_EI-leQujhOQ/TOP7tfp2nPI/AAAAAAAAA70/qR19B3lUOvI/s800/PB150570.JPG

 

embarked the surviving of the veteran squad on the valkyria and nothing more... in assaul phase...

 

he killed the last termy of the fight raging since turn 1

 

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_EI-leQujhOQ/TOP7qq62...00/PB150568.JPG

 

and the rune just killed one man, taking no wounds, but not making the storm troops run away neither!

 

Turn four!

 

I was beginning to worry...

 

The objective near the long fangs was in danger... I had the rune priest with a single wound in CaC with 9 storm troopers, making 2 attack each, and not being able to dispatch them, also, i cannot shot them

 

 

The central objective is more or less secure.. i ve still all the ten termy on it, so nothing should be able to contest it

 

The left objective is contested by one of my drop pods, and he had only one las cannon left, so i dubt my enemy will take it

 

The uppermost objective... he had the 2 command squad and the laz cannon nearby... a easy pray for the logan squad, but 4 termy are realy not enough to secure the objective.. so, the greatest threat is the valkyria, but also the surviving veteran squad from table edge can be dabgerous... so i shoot at the squad with the termy, clearing it from the table, and shot at the valy with the surviving long fangs, doing nothing

 

in the assault phase, logan and his squad cleared what they have in front of them, moving afterward towards the main command squad

 

And mine rune priest get killed at the worst moment.

 

His turn

 

he moved the main command squad between logan and the objective, in a last act of defiance

 

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_EI-leQujhOQ/TOP7viSYIqI/AAAAAAAAA8E/tY93LAcNvkc/s800/PB150573.JPG

 

moved the 20 man strong squad towards the drop pod contested objective

 

In the fire phase, he tried to destroy the pod with the valky multilaser, failing at it.. the storm troops intesead killed all the long fangs but the wolf guard in termy armour

 

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_EI-leQujhOQ/TOP7wTXsI0I/AAAAAAAAA8I/Zj9KxXVhKbY/s800/PB150574.JPG

 

turn five!

 

Logan and his buddies charged the main command squad, slayng it and capturing the objective

 

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_EI-leQujhOQ/TOP7soiVlaI/AAAAAAAAA7w/hXlQ20mSvtI/s800/PB150569.JPG

 

 

The 10 man squad sat better on his objective, shot at the valky, doing nothing..

 

The Wolf guard of the long fangs tryed to avenge his comadres: the position is good

 

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_EI-leQujhOQ/TOP7xCXkTlI/AAAAAAAAA8M/zYynxmFd7lY/s800/PB150575.JPG

 

But the first missile scattered away

The secondo too

And missed with both storm bolter's shoots.

 

Also the charge was a disaster.. he should have attacked at i 1, but never did, dying before being able to attack 8(

 

In his turn he captured the long fangs objective with the storm troops, tried to blow up the drop pod, failing at it.

 

And the game ended in this way, with 2 objectives for me, and 1 for my opponent... Victory! <_<

 

Consideration:

 

I liked very much the change i did at my list, it's true the logn fangs did little, but they were very unlucky... but i realy liked the possibility to attach to them a wolf guard, leaving place in the drop pod for logan!

 

Next time i will play with this list

[Token]

Congrats on the win.

[Ladislao]

Good day fellow brothers!

 

I ve a dire news, logan has been ambushed by the inquisition!

 

He was strolling in the country, when a radical inquisitor called Natalinus The Laidus tried to capture him... will he be able to survive? let's see!

 

I brought the usual list, but a with a little change.. last time i did an error, i mad my 2 drop pod arrive on the first turn.. and thi is not legal, so to keep the ability to deliver all my termy togeter, if i need to, i take away a long fang and 2 combi plasma, and used the points to take a third drop pod.

 

My enemy used: 1 lord inquisitor with psicannon, 2 land raiders full of melta armed inquisitoria storm troopers ( one land raider from the crimson fist, and the other, being radical, from iron warrior), 3 rynos full of the same troops, 3 demon host ( they did letteraly NOTHING, so from this point on i will ignore them) and a callidus

 

Kill points, pitched battle

 

My enemy begun, and deployed only the 2 land raiders, keeping alla the rest in reserve

 

i put logan, the long fangs, a cyclone armed termy and the priest in the same squad, placing them in a ruin with the ten man squad...making a wolfish version of the fortress of arrocange! ( ps, the long fangs are just proxies)

 

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_EI-leQujhOQ/TOekAfREW3I/AAAAAAAAA98/_vw5uI1vTUQ/s800/PB200593.JPG

 

Fist turn: My opponent used the callidus redeploment ability to take the long fangs away from the cover, shooting them with the land raiders, but due to poor placemente killed only 1 space wolf.

 

My turn. I did an error... i dropped both my 5 mand quad termy in front of the land raiders, hoping to blow them... but they were too far from the rest of my army, and they get isolated, with little support.

 

Also, i used logan's ability to move and fire to take the long fangs in cover.

 

In the fire phase, i shoot at the land raiders with 4 melta ad 12 missile, and at the end this was thw scene

 

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_EI-leQujhOQ/TOejKs7CqQI/AAAAAAAAA9U/cwrLMCLrXWo/s800/PB190583.JPG

 

 

i did absoluting NOTHING!

 

Second turn: the callidus and a ryno arrived... he disembarked the 2 storm troopers squad from the land raiders

 

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_EI-leQujhOQ/TOejU5BNgbI/AAAAAAAAA9Y/1G5Ta6v0fa8/s800/PB190584.JPG

 

shooting at my termies wiith everithing: the strage flamer from the callidus, 6 ab 4 melta, 4 twin linked laz cannon, and 2 twin linked heavy bolters... killing 4 termy of the unpainted squad, 1 from the painted

 

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_EI-leQujhOQ/TOejhCG52zI/AAAAAAAAA9g/Bb-PIL9r_Oc/s800/PB190586.JPG

 

 

In the assault phase, my termies challenged the callidus

 

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_EI-leQujhOQ/TOejaywEOoI/AAAAAAAAA9c/z6YL1T9FA_0/s800/PB190585.JPG

 

Who accepted the challenge

 

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_EI-leQujhOQ/TOejkH_oGEI/AAAAAAAAA9k/MusiEMMsnps/s800/PB190587.JPG

 

Killing only 3 of them, before dying to the power fist ( GLORY TO THE POWER FIST!)

 

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_EI-leQujhOQ/TOejngkh5fI/AAAAAAAAA9o/LUFNmfy-NKk/s800/PB190588.JPG

 

 

1-0 for me

 

My turn

 

Little movement in turn 2... i could do only a thing, charge!

 

In the fire phase, i tried ( with tank hunter) to blow one land raider, doing nothing.

With the 10 man termy squad, i shoot 4 missiles at a rhyno, immobilizing it

 

In assault phase, the lonely termies charged the troops, the one armed with the power sword the inquisitor with his troop,

 

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_EI-leQujhOQ/TOejtUtxjGI/AAAAAAAAA9s/gFz37MhRpHU/s800/PB190589.JPG

 

the Hero who killed the callidus another troop

 

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_EI-leQujhOQ/TOejxd9QW6I/AAAAAAAAA9w/SIIA2oQR4iA/s800/PB190590.JPG

 

both winned the combat.. the inquisitor decided to fall back, the other squad simply run away, with the termy pursuing them

 

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_EI-leQujhOQ/TOej6lgMc7I/AAAAAAAAA94/F8MSAdF0F38/s800/PB190592.JPG

 

Turn 3

 

Both the falling back units run out of the table! All his reserves arrived, killd the 2 termy and a drop pods: 4:3 for me

 

Then nothing interesting happened, he kept away from me, trying to destroy the drop pods ( he made one explode) and hide his rhyno, with my fire i blowed up a land raider and the immobilized rhyno... the match ended 6-4 for me

 

Consideration: despite my error, this has been a good match... i m happy with the long fangs.. at least i feel to have enought fire for everything!

[Ladislao]

Post Scrittum: If you like this thread, plz, leave a comment 8(

[CainTheHunter]

Argh!!! Behold the mighty headless terminator :)

[Ladislao]

Argh!!! Behold the mighty headless terminator :whistling:

 

hahaha right!

 

just immagine this '' inside the chimera, the sergent repeat the instruction '' Ok people, the terminator are quite invulnerable... quite, do as in the drill field, shoot them in the eyes, and all we go well; The chimera stops, the hatch opens, trooper Gonzo rise his lasgun to shoot at the enemy, aim at the eyes... and then, after realising the enemy has NO HEAD, starts running away, screaming '' WE ARE ALL DOMED!!!!!''

 

btw, now one of the headless termy has grown an head

 

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_EI-leQujhOQ/TOwQGPn8JoI/AAAAAAAABAE/7yu7dKJAJKU/s800/PB230603.JPG

[Token]

Haha, good stuff.

How do you paint those shoulder pad.. thingies.. the raised metall parts? What colors etc.?

[Ladislao]

Haha, good stuff.

How do you paint those shoulder pad.. thingies.. the raised metall parts? What colors etc.?

 

This particoular one: i gave a base of mixed schorched brown and shining gold, then a mix of shining gold an mithril silver, tryng not to cover the recesses... then a little blach wash where is needed, and a final drybrush with mithril silver

 

For the others termy, i did the same but using shining pre shining gold instead of mixing it with the mithril silver... and i ve not yet decided wich is better

[Ladislao]

Hello fellow brothers! I me back with manly tale of war!

 

I thought it was time for my wolves for a more competitive test: I found a torunament where unpainted models where accepted and unpnealized... with more or less 40 player, so i tried it!

 

I brought this list:

 

Logan

 

A rune priest

 

10 man termy squad with 2 cyclone, 1 fist and 1 chain fist

 

 

5 termy with 1 cyclone, 2 combi melta and a drop pod

 

 

5 termy with 1 cyclone, 2 combi melta and a drop pod

 

 

4 long fangs + leader with missile launcher and a drop pod

 

First mission was againt tau, 5 objectives, dawn of war

 

 

My opponend has something like 5 kroots, a little squad of fire warrior ona devifish, a qg+ 2 crisis with plasma rifle and melta, 3 broadsides with 2 drones ( but without the equipment that let them move and fire) 3 crisis with missiles and 2 hammer head.

 

He goes fisrt, deploying his kroots on an objective on the centre, the qg nearbye, the crisis and the hammerhead far from them, near the table edge

 

 

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_EI-leQujhOQ/TQIJhKmmXhI/AAAAAAAABEc/r_wR3PxIDgc/s800/PC050646.JPG

 

 

I... wentr for an alpha strike! The 10 man squad was deployed 18 inches form the kroot's wood, in the muiddle of 3 objective, with a 4 man squad who would leave his drop pod empty, then i droped the long fangs with logan, the priest and a cycloned wolf guard near his qg, the greatest threat i could see, givingi the ability to move and shot with heavy weapon ( I don't know the name in english, sorry).

 

The last termy squad dropped on the other side of the qg, near the devilfish, waiting to see what happens

 

Fire phase! The logan squad shoots! 6 missile and 1 lightning.... 2 missile hit 8(, and 2 drones were killed... so i used the squad nearby who should have destroyed the devifish to finish the hq squad... 2 missile... 2 miss ( LOL ), but i hit with the combi melta, killing 2 suits and making the hq with the impronunciable name ran away

 

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_EI-leQujhOQ/TQIJjkXwFlI/AAAAAAAABEk/BWR-KP-rac8/s800/PC050648.JPG

 

 

on the other side, i begin to move my termy toward the objective in the wood, and exchange fire with the 2 hammerheads and the crysys, making little

 

In his turn, the brodsides arrived, and did nothing... and with the kroots charged the long fang squad with logan and friends

 

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_EI-leQujhOQ/TQIJkvS7sUI/AAAAAAAABEs/wLuySGG1cAA/s800/PC050649.JPG

 

But thx being in cover, counter charge, favored enemy and living legend of logan, ( and logan themself) they slaughtered something like 12-13 kroots before thet could even make an attack! And took no wounds!

 

With only 1 troop left to my enemy, the battle was over.. in the next turn logan charged the broadsides, slowly killing them ( he would kill the broiadside, the scouts and the crysis before being slayed). My firepower took care of the last troop... the match ended with 2 objective for me, and my enemy with only 1 hammerhead left!

[nurglez]

heh, ouch!

 

how is the 10man terminator squad going for you? I was aiming to make one, but ended up having 4 5 man squads, 2 in drop pods.

also how is no storm shields going for you? I really like having 1 storm shield in each squad to put those powerfist or lascannon shots on, though sometimes they fail on the first shot and other times they really help the squad survive :P

[Ladislao]

heh, ouch!

 

how is the 10man terminator squad going for you? I was aiming to make one, but ended up having 4 5 man squads, 2 in drop pods.

also how is no storm shields going for you? I really like having 1 storm shield in each squad to put those powerfist or lascannon shots on, though sometimes they fail on the first shot and other times they really help the squad survive :)

oh uh i forgot! The 10 man squad has 2 storm shields, and 1 in each of the 5 termy squad, and they are usefull

 

and about the big squad? In the origin it was so big beacuse i did not have the long fangs, so i wanted a squad with as more heavy weapons as possibile due to the logan's tank hunter ability... now.... i simply have no points for 2 more drop pods, and i find it a fanstastic stopper, but some time the lack of mobility hurts

[Ladislao]

Secondo match was against an ig player... surprise suprise, was tjhe same one i played against in the first match of my first tournament a lot of years ago, it had been a disaster... so it was time of revenge!

 

He had 2... vendetta, 2 hydra, a leman russ demolisher, an hellhoud, a laser cannon in the troops and 3-4 chimera with a lot a special weapon inside...

 

the mission was kill point, deployment quarter....

 

Ok the plan is easy! i will not drop inside his deployment zone, too many low ap weapon.... i will engage him in long rage fire, using the drop pods as baits for his hydras... he would surerly fire at the long fangs, so i will send them in to the ground till both vendetta are down!

 

So was the plan... but then, the bad luck strike.... now, i m not kidding, in his fire turn, i did no throw a single dice over 2....... indeed, i rolled 4 consecutive 1 while saving the 5 man terminator squad... so after first turn i lost the long fangs with a ciclone termy in them, and 4 terminator...

 

my first fire turn, 5 penetrating hit on a vendetta... and 5 ones for the damage, damn! And my throws did not improve over the game... my rune priest killed himself, 4 termy dropped near his vendetta that was far from the rest of hi army, trowing to ones to hit with the combi melta and so on...

 

Despite this, i ended only 2 kill points below him... with a bit more luck, i would have won 8|