Starting SW

[Hellrender]

hey guys, i've been out of the hobby for 1,5 year. Before i stopped i bought a lot of SW stuff, on the day of the last codex B). But lost time and never rlly painted a force. Now i'm building a fun army thats gonna fight a lot against orks.

But i had some questions, namely towards the Lone Wolf.

 

If i take a long wolf and long fangs with a razorback. Deploy them together, and so that the long fangs don't need to move. Can then the lone wolf jump in the razorback and taxi around?

 

Also how is the general opinion on using special characters (Njal in my case)? Also with what company will he go? or can i still choose the company?

 

And how are the options on colour schemes. I will go space wolves, but you can paint them alrdy in 2 colours (grey or lightblue) does any have other ideas, or simple way to do the lightblue? Or to make the grey a bit more interresting.

[S. Bloodhowl]

Welcome back man, I'm not too sure about the first question but I willdo my best for the other 2.

As far as I'm aware Rune Priests (Njal included) are not members of a particular Great Company but rather assigned to one for a campaign, so you can do any company you want and have Njal with them and it will still be true to fluff.

As for the colour of the armour, I myself couldn't decide between light blue or grey so went for an inbetween colour. Here are some images of t:

Blood Claw test model:

Wolf Guard:

That colour was done as follows:

1-Basecoat Shadow Grey

2-Wash Badab Black

3-Re-apply the Shadow Grey to all but the recesses of the armour

(Now it can get a little complicated, but I'll try to explain it so it is easy to follow)

4-Mix Shadow Grey:Codex Grey in a 2:1 for the first highlight. This could be painted on as a regular edge highlight but to add a sense of realism to them I paint is onto the top half/two-thirds of each armour plate to give the idea of a source of light above the model, on the legs I paint it in a thickish line doen the middle in the front and sot of towards the outer side on the back.

5-Repeat the above step using a 1:1 mix of the same colours. If you are doing it as I do then this is focused a lot more towards the top of the armour plates, covering roughly the top quarter of each, but again can be done as an edge highlight.

6-After this final highlight the armour looks to bright for my likings and so I tend to was it with two dilute washes of Devlan Mud (this is easier than on thick wash which can ruin the model). Not only done this darken the armour a little but it takes out some of the blue from the colour and also makes it seem dirtier and less "fresh-off-the-production-line".

Hope this helps you (and I hope it's easy to understand), if you want to see more of it to help understand the scheme there a link in my signature to my Space Wolves WiP.

Fowlie

PS If you want to know how the Battle Damage is done just ask.

[Hellrender]

That looks neat. But what do you think of fenris grey? since that is a foundation paint.

[S. Bloodhowl]

If you mean using it instead if Shadow Grey then it should work well, although you may need to add some more Codex Grey to it as Fenris Grey is a little darker than Shadow Grey

[nurglez]

as long as the lone wolf is in power armour then yes he can "borrow" the long fang's razorback, however, at the start of the game i dont think he could start in it, but next to it and could embark on the first turn.

[Hellrender]

Y, that was the idea, just to deploy them together, and then in Turn 1 embark and taxi around. Just wondering now if fenrisian wolves also can go in a RB?

[WG Vrox]

If i take a long wolf and long fangs with a razorback. Deploy them together, and so that the long fangs don't need to move. Can then the lone wolf jump in the razorback and taxi around?

 

definitively, in fact this is my favorite way to run one, it provides the Long Fangs some protection at the beginning of the game in case you go up against a Drop Pod or Deep Strike army, then like you planned you can use the RB to taxi the Lone Wolf to the front lines and get him into combat asap. Lone Wolves do well against Orcs by the way so good call on that.

 

Also how is the general opinion on using special characters (Njal in my case)? Also with what company will he go? or can i still choose the company?

 

S. Blood Howl is correct, all Rune Priests including Njal are part of the Great Wolf's company then assigned out like a library books to companies who are in need of their special talents.

 

And how are the options on colour schemes. I will go space wolves, but you can paint them alrdy in 2 colours (grey or lightblue) does any have other ideas, or simple way to do the lightblue? Or to make the grey a bit more interresting

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I suggest you browse through the painting sticky at the top of the forum and decide what you like, then go from there. In the end just remember it's your army and you can paint them all Green with purple armor and call them spawns of The Hulk if you so desire.

 

Vrox.

[Hellrender]

I might do just that :)

 

All kidding aside, i think that i go in the direction set by a coupler of earlier posts, the 'in-between'.

 

But thanks for the answers on the lone wolf. Will definately use him then.

[Tsavong Lah]

I also couldn't decide between grey and light blue, so I halved my marines and painted grey on the right and blue on the left. It looks quite good, actually.

[Grizwald714]

Actually I think Njal is a wolf lord as well as a rune priest. I don't have my dex with me but I think the section it describes the different wolf lords it show njal as a wolf lord with his own company

[Grimtooth]

Actually I think Njal is a wolf lord as well as a rune priest. I don't have my dex with me but I think the section it describes the different wolf lords it show njal as a wolf lord with his own company

 

No.

 

As for the Fenrisian wlves, yes they can go in the Razorback with the Lone Wolf.

[Hellrender]

Njal is 'just' the greatest of the runepriests.

 

but i need an idea for a list. Not neccesarily with points, altough max is 2500. (it's more for what i collect first :huh:).

 

I tried one myself but i ended up with 25 Grey hunters, and thats something i don't want. (cuz i hate it when i have to paint more then 15 things of the same).

I want a list where i can put a lot of diverse models in, have around 2-3 troop choices, can still compete against orks and well, i just have a lot of 'individual heroism'. (So not that much rank an' file)

 

Greetz, and ty in advance

[Grimtooth]

Njal is 'just' the greatest of the runepriests.

 

but i need an idea for a list. Not neccesarily with points, altough max is 2500. (it's more for what i collect first :D).

 

I tried one myself but i ended up with 25 Grey hunters, and thats something i don't want. (cuz i hate it when i have to paint more then 15 things of the same).

I want a list where i can put a lot of diverse models in, have around 2-3 troop choices, can still compete against orks and well, i just have a lot of 'individual heroism'. (So not that much rank an' file)

 

Greetz, and ty in advance

 

I don't see how 2-3 Troop choices will ever compete with orks. At the most that is 45 Blood Claws or 30 Grey Hunters which would be completely insufficient against almost any 2500pt list. The general rule is one troop choice for every 500pts more or less. Your aversion to having to paint more then 15 things of the same will not help you with any list most people will put up here.

 

I mean my 2500pt list has 50 Grey Hunters and 10 Blood Claws. That doesn't include Thunderlord, Rune Priest, Fenrisian wolves, or Long Fangs.

[Hellrender]

No i rldy noticed that i couldn't come far with that, so i was alrdy debating with myself to get Logan Grimnar in. That way i can get some termies as troop choice.

 

Also it is not a Tournie list. The one i will play with (mostly) will be my GF, who is soon gonna start an ork army. She completly new, and i haven't played a lot of games myself, so a good way for the both of us to learn the game abit.

If then i do want to go to a tournie, i will ofc make a more competive list. For now i just want a fun list, that puts models on the table during those friendly games, that just look awesome (more even then grey hunters :D)

[WG Vrox]

No i rldy noticed that i couldn't come far with that, so i was alrdy debating with myself to get Logan Grimnar in. That way i can get some termies as troop choice.

 

Also it is not a Tournie list. The one i will play with (mostly) will be my GF, who is soon gonna start an ork army. She completly new, and i haven't played a lot of games myself, so a good way for the both of us to learn the game abit.

If then i do want to go to a tournie, i will ofc make a more competive list. For now i just want a fun list, that puts models on the table during those friendly games, that just look awesome (more even then grey hunters tongue.gif)

 

Agreed, the best way to go is Logan and run 2 WG squads in TDA. make 1 footsloggin and the other in a LRC so you can bring Logan and Njal. That will eat into your 2500 point allowance nicely.

[Hellrender]

Well, since i wanted at least, Njal, logan AND arjac.. (and a wolfpriest) i now went for:

 

Logan, Njal, Wolfpriest and Runepriest.

 

4 WG with TDA and some kit and a CML, dp (logan's unit)

4 WG with TDA and some kit and a CML, dp (njal's unit)

 

8 GH, wolf guard with PF, dp (WP's unit)

8 GH, Arjac, dp (Arjac's unit)

 

2 Dreads, both in DP (1 with PC/CC, other with 2xTLAC)

Lone Wolf

 

2 Land Speeders, both MM/HF

 

Vindicator (love the model)

Dakkapred

6 Longfangs, with lazerbeck.

 

 

it's 958 points in characters (Arjac included). I still have enough points to either give the runepriest Runic Armour, or the wolfpriest Warrior Born (atm he got beastslayer). Or, i remove the runepriest, 2 land speeders and get Bjorn in, but that is more cool, then it is actually useful.

 

Ofc, there is a wolf standard in the GH squads, just not a PF, because it's only 1 attack, and both Arjac and the WG can give a PF attack or 2 (arjac 3-4 + shooting S10).

 

It's now 1,5 year since my last battle. The idea is now, to drop Arjac, Logan and a dread. On one side, close together. Then the landspeeders close to tanks, or to Lootas in case those drop. Once the other pods come availble, on the other side of the enemy army (also flank), so i force him either to go full on my logan side, or to split forces and go for the one on the other side. I want Njal later, cuz he is the most vunerable.

Basicaly the army is around those 4 units, with the rest as support. The lone wolf protects the long fangs against possible infiltrators, and then picks the lazerbeck to taxi towards a nice target. The runepriest stands back with living lightning pow pow.

 

I chose this list, cuz it gives me a high diversity in models, plenty of oppurtunity to create awesome models, and i think it would be fun aswell for my GF that i don't come with a tournament army to our tabletop :).

 

Greetz

 

ps

 

What do people think about the Logan model? atm thinking of making him myself or buying him..