CompanyChampionSiege Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 I have been playing salamanders for almost 10 years now and i would really like to break away from marines without losing my play style entirely. Here is my idea: I want to create my own order that is themed much in the way of Space Wolves in that it is very Norse-ish. I named my Order of the Valkyrie. As you can guess the list is suppose to be very Seraphim heavy and lead by a Saint. To represent this I plan on converting the new dark eldar into seraphim using the sanguinary guard wings as well as maybe making a saint out of lilith. Here is my background: Much like the interex from the horus heresy, The native planets of which my order hails from were rediscovered during the great crusade. The people of these planets are sometimes born with wings.(I see them much in the way as abhumans that have pledged undying loyalty to the Emperor.) My question: Could/would such a race exist in the Imperium? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213911-idea-for-sisters-of-battle/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 They could certainly exist within the Imperium - it's a big place. The real question is if the Imperium would accept them or not! Abhumans are tolerated to a degree (eg Ogyrns) though not by all - but in the grim darkness of the 41st millennium that's as accepting as it gets Though having wings (ie being angelic) would likely get more support for them as the Imperium has positive references to them. Sanguinius himself is the most venerated Primarch and he had wings. Match it with fervent faith like SoB and they could find themselves accepted but they would certainly have enemies who oppose them too. Alternatively you could have the wings as some sort of ancient/fancy technology rather than "real" wings and sidestep most if not all issues this may raise. The DE models are really great, but I'm not sure how they'd look that SoB or norse without some hard work on your part. Do you have any ideas on how you might do this? Last but not least always good to see someone interested in getting Sisters on the table :P Don't forget to let us know where you go with this! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213911-idea-for-sisters-of-battle/#findComment-2545641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor =D= Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 While I can easily see them existing there is but one problem... The Sisters of Battle are the #1 Queens of "Kill the Mutant!!!!" so it may be hard justifying their involvement in the Ordo Hereticus... Constructively though I would go with the "Dark-Age-Of-Technology" relics of awesome. And for what its worth, I like your idea my friend. I look forward to seeing more. =]D[= Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213911-idea-for-sisters-of-battle/#findComment-2545684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CompanyChampionSiege Posted October 26, 2010 Author Share Posted October 26, 2010 The DE models are really great, but I'm not sure how they'd look that SoB or norse without some hard work on your part. Do you have any ideas on how you might do this? Last but not least always good to see someone interested in getting Sisters on the table ;) Don't forget to let us know where you go with this! I was the fortunate regular at my local GW store to put together and paint the new Kabalite Warriors. Though some would think that this isn't that big of a deal it allowed me physically look at the models long enough to see where i can cut and add green to turn them into sisters. Such as Adding sleeves and Bolters. I figure it will take 1 Wytch Box (the one i have not seen as of yet) and 1 Kabal warriors Squad to make a squad and a half of SoB's. As for the "Norse look" You throw in a mixture of Space Wolf/Blood Angel/ Dark Angel bits. The only snag i have come on is that I have no regular flamers (Used them all on my salamanders) As to keeping the project up to date, I will, as soon as I get a good camera =) Edit: here is the amour color scheme i am looking at. The yellow is a gold (haven't decided on which one yet) http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac325/Dasiege1/sisterbeta2php.jpg?t=1288139687 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213911-idea-for-sisters-of-battle/#findComment-2546204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 I'd count that as hard work once you take into account how much you'd have to do! :P Sounds like it'll work, I assume will you be using GS to bulk/armour them out a bit too? I've yet to see the DE models in person but since I was sold on them on first sight I can wait until I get some of my own :) I like the colour scheme, it'll look great on the table. Is that Rotting Flesh as the main coat? The gold in the picture looks like Burnished to me, as it's more of a neutral colour than Shining :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213911-idea-for-sisters-of-battle/#findComment-2546412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holy Heretic Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 How about this. Since your force is a bunch of degenerate abominations, their home world has been cut off for centuries by warp storms, and as they're finally rediscovered by our benevolent emperor, their vile mutations are deemed a sign of corruption. They now fight a brave fight against the forces of the empire, they thought they were a part of - and what xenos you may encounter in your part of the galaxy. Your paint ideas look nice, and my little inquisitorial retinue would love to vanquish them with holy promethium. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213911-idea-for-sisters-of-battle/#findComment-2546432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CompanyChampionSiege Posted October 27, 2010 Author Share Posted October 27, 2010 I'd count that as hard work once you take into account how much you'd have to do! :P Sounds like it'll work, I assume will you be using GS to bulk/armour them out a bit too? I've yet to see the DE models in person but since I was sold on them on first sight I can wait until I get some of my own :P I like the colour scheme, it'll look great on the table. Is that Rotting Flesh as the main coat? The gold in the picture looks like Burnished to me, as it's more of a neutral colour than Shining :) I did not plan on doing alot of build up on say limbs. I was more of going to add sleeves and the skirt. As to how it will come out we will have to wait till next week. There is no rotting flesh in the paint scheme; just colours you would normally use for space wolves. As for the gold you bring up a good point, I will try that one first. Maybe build up from dwarfe bronze. Your paint ideas look nice, and my little inquisitorial retinue would love to vanquish them with holy promethium. Says the "Holy" Heretic. =p Your fire shal not avail you. For the Emperor, praise be his glorious name, is our shield. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213911-idea-for-sisters-of-battle/#findComment-2546600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judanas Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Colour Scheme looks good and another vote for 'Arcanotech Wing Jumpacks' If not...well the Order of the Iron Heart can always do with some more target practice for the exorcists. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213911-idea-for-sisters-of-battle/#findComment-2546926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eltnot Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 Using marine parts will look terrible. They're just way too big and bulky. As for flamers, I'm sure you could get some for a reasonable price off Ebay from a bits store. That's how I buy my meltaguns for my sisters. The same can be done for extra bolters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213911-idea-for-sisters-of-battle/#findComment-2547222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 I'm think using some of the Marine parts means the accessories and weapons rather than armour. There's got to be other Marine players in your area with spare flamers they'd be willing to give/trade you. Otherwise as Eltnot said it shouldn't be too hard to find some online. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213911-idea-for-sisters-of-battle/#findComment-2547342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eltnot Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 Bits Store: Hoard o' Bits Wings: Wings 1 Wings 2 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213911-idea-for-sisters-of-battle/#findComment-2548131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakehunter52 Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 You got a long road ahead of you brother, may the Emperor be guiding you along the way. It sounds like the interesting project with potential to add some dynamism to the Sisters. So are your plans to take the torsos and possibly some heads from the wyches and combine them w/ the arms and legs from the warriors? I think the posing would work well, displaying the tactical urgency of the battlefield while at the same time being rooted in the stoic stubbornness of the current models. The armour would definitely be a different make which could easily be claimed by being from a different forgeworld, similar to the variances in lasguns and such. And this would only strengthen your back story of being a society that still functioned when discovered in the great crusade. However, I will caution you that it having the addition of become "norse" in nature will be difficult and I hope that you are able to find balance between all different elements in your models. That and I believe space wolves sprues are going to be your new best friend. I have an interesting proposition for your "Valkyrie Dilemma". While the ancient archeotech solution is always viable but a more interesting and similar to the interex would be a symbiotic partnership. Image that the original founding colonists discovered an organism that was parasitic in nature but offered the host a unique ability in exchange: flight. Because of it's need to find a new host and possible long distances it would have to travel to find a suitable candidate, it developed wings but once settled, it would no longer need them. Thus, the host would have access to them, which would further extend the lifespan of the host and thus further benefit the organism. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213911-idea-for-sisters-of-battle/#findComment-2549166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CompanyChampionSiege Posted October 30, 2010 Author Share Posted October 30, 2010 You got a long road ahead of you brother, may the Emperor be guiding you along the way. It sounds like the interesting project with potential to add some dynamism to the Sisters. So are your plans to take the torsos and possibly some heads from the wyches and combine them w/ the arms and legs from the warriors? I think the posing would work well, displaying the tactical urgency of the battlefield while at the same time being rooted in the stoic stubbornness of the current models. The armour would definitely be a different make which could easily be claimed by being from a different forgeworld, similar to the variances in lasguns and such. And this would only strengthen your back story of being a society that still functioned when discovered in the great crusade. However, I will caution you that it having the addition of become "norse" in nature will be difficult and I hope that you are able to find balance between all different elements in your models. That and I believe space wolves sprues are going to be your new best friend. I have an interesting proposition for your "Valkyrie Dilemma". While the ancient archeotech solution is always viable but a more interesting and similar to the interex would be a symbiotic partnership. Image that the original founding colonists discovered an organism that was parasitic in nature but offered the host a unique ability in exchange: flight. Because of it's need to find a new host and possible long distances it would have to travel to find a suitable candidate, it developed wings but once settled, it would no longer need them. Thus, the host would have access to them, which would further extend the lifespan of the host and thus further benefit the organism. Yes, Space wolf bits all around @_@! I planned on swapping the Wytch torsos to the kabal warrior legs for the regular Sisters. There was a concern that the Space marine bit i was talking about are too bulky for what i was going to do. Do note that i am only refering to the weapons and accessories. no arms or hands will be used in the process. The Symbiote idea, though an awesome one, Doesn't sit right with me. (as a small note here: I hate "Go to answers." That is why i do not want to use the archano technology method. Too over used.) The planet of which the Order is centered upon is (as far as i am thinking) in a place in the universe in which the barrier between real-space and the warp, though not significantly thin, But thin enough to where minor warp leakage occurs which causes the mutation. In other news: My test model is finished painting. Still trying to get camera. Hopefully pics soon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213911-idea-for-sisters-of-battle/#findComment-2549283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Aznable Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 Very interested in this idea, and will be watching. I'm holding my breath for plastic SoB (which is easy, since I'm concentrating on another army right now), but I wanted to make a special character SoB for my other army. I was thinking about doing this very same thing to make her, and am interested in your process. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213911-idea-for-sisters-of-battle/#findComment-2555365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 If you can get acces to bits look for the Sob Gunner on the Immolator, shes all plastic and easy to work with. I used that one for my Female Chaos Lord. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213911-idea-for-sisters-of-battle/#findComment-2557395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inache Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 As long as their planet was made compliant by an early BA's & SW's task force I don't think it'd be too hard to pass off some angelic winged holy abhumans with a penchant for Norse mythology. You could even use some of the more iconographic weapons from the sanguinary guard or wolf guard for your seraphim's. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213911-idea-for-sisters-of-battle/#findComment-2560543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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