Pre Heresy / Post Heresy Space Wolves

[Darkseer]

Having read the more recent Warhammer 40K fiction, I'm wondering if the Space Wolves would have really changed that much since the Heresy?

 

In the book A THOUSAND SONS, they're all covered in wolf pelts, wield battle axes and have a tendency to not wear helmets. They're a heck of a lot more feral than in Bill King's Ragnar books.

 

The Space Wolves are stubborn, traditional and superstitious.

They don't trust new technologies and they make all their own armour and weapons on Fenris.

 

So is it right to think that in the modern age they wouldn't be swining chainswords around and would continue to favour a well balanced battle axe instead?

[Hialmar]

It has been Ten Thousand years, to be honest each and every Chapter should have changed significantly in that amount of time, but the GW universe is not well enough constructed to take evolution or the changes that mankind has experienced over the past several millenia and incorporate that same type of change into their background. This is understandable as it is at its core just a game setting, but to be honest, given the nature of man many more things should have changed than they have allowed.

 

Also the changes you have noted are not all that great to be honest, as I seem to recall all sorts of wolf pelts, axes and bare headed marines in the current 40K setting.

[isilvra]

There are even suggestions that the Wolves of Fenris (hate calling them space wolves) are about as close to an old style Astartes legions as it's possible to get. Parts of the codex imply that they didn't even reduce their numbers that much and remain the size they were at the end of the heresy. Out of all the loyal legions I believe they have evolved the least.

[Bjorn Firewalker]

In the book A THOUSAND SONS, they're all covered in wolf pelts, wield battle axes and have a tendency to not wear helmets. They're a heck of a lot more feral than in Bill King's Ragnar books.

A Thousand Sons was apparently written from the traitor Marines' point-of-view, so it was likely the "Space Wolves are little better than Bronze Age barbarians, barely comprehending the technology they're gifted with," was how Magnus and the Thousand Sons' viewed the Wolves, NOT how the Wolves really were.

[talos402000]

There are even suggestions that the Wolves of Fenris (hate calling them space wolves) are about as close to an old style Astartes legions as it's possible to get. Parts of the codex imply that they didn't even reduce their numbers that much and remain the size they were at the end of the heresy. Out of all the loyal legions I believe they have evolved the least.

 

They were never an "old style Legion" to begin with. They were a Fenris-Style Legion. And as for changes, the Varangii, the Terran veterans, are no more, and the 13th company has changed radically from what it was.

[Supreme Overlord]

I'd have to agree that the Wolves are the least-changed Chapter from 30k to 40k. Some evidence that they don't like to change their ways could include their resistance to breaking apart their Legion? (and we all know how that ended)

 

Actually quite a few First Founding chapters have changed quite a bit since the Heresy... The Blood Angels are all red thirsty, the Dark Angels are now hiding a big secret, the Raven Guard have geneseed problems because of Corax's tinkering, the Iron Hands are more insane and angry than they were beforehand, the Fists were forever divided into the youngsters, the fanatics and the oldies...perhaps the Ultramarines, Sallies, White Scars and Wolves are the least changed Legions/Chapters (not including traitors). This is all purely speculation on my part.

[Jarl Kjaran Coldheart]

I'd have to agree that the Wolves are the least-changed Chapter from 30k to 40k. Some evidence that they don't like to change their ways could include their resistance to breaking apart their Legion? (and we all know how that ended)

 

Actually quite a few First Founding chapters have changed quite a bit since the Heresy... The Blood Angels are all red thirsty, the Dark Angels are now hiding a big secret, the Raven Guard have geneseed problems because of Corax's tinkering, the Iron Hands are more insane and angry than they were beforehand, the Fists were forever divided into the youngsters, the fanatics and the oldies...perhaps the Ultramarines, Sallies, White Scars and Wolves are the least changed Legions/Chapters (not including traitors). This is all purely speculation on my part.

 

Ironically enough, the least changed Legions (imo) are the WOlves and the Ultramarines.

 

The Ultramarines, as they alreayd followed the Codex, so were fairly simular to as they are today.

the Wolves, as the had Russ guide them through the emergence of the COdex on the other Legions.

 

all the other Legions that adopted the Codex's teachings were modified from their original format to be more in line with the Codex, so wouldnt fall under this.

 

WLK