IA: Purifiers/IT: Planet!

[Octavulg]

They're not. But the term's sexual connotations are rather more prevalent than its other meanings.

 

Don't ask me. Ask Ferrata. ^_^ It's his forum.

 

EDIT: I can say that if it ever gets to the point of Librarium submission, we'll ask the question, so you might as well ask now.

[The Normish]

@ Shinzaren: Good idea. I was going to suggest you two head up your own creations. If you want, you can use my Days of Darkness first post as an organizational template.

[Chapter Master Ignis Domus]

The R****s color scheme could be the opposite of the Purifiers scheme so all the white would be black, the black would be white, etc.

 

Edit: Sorry, I keep going away and doing things instead of focusing my life on the B&C like a good little doggie.

I'm thinking Defaeco Vesica for the Chapter Masters name(Purifying Blade in Latin).

 

For their homeworld, I'm thinking a Space Hulk, maybe partially composed of some of the wrecks of the chapter's ships from when they tried to destroy the hulk?

 

If the Black Templars have successors(I'm not sure) they could be a black templars successor, otherwise I'd go with Imperial Fists.

 

They might have been a fleet-based chapter once but one day a space hulk transitioned in system. Sensors detected a large ork force onboard the hulk. Planet blub blub called for assistance and the Purifiers responded in full force. However, the hulk was to strong and about half the chapter along with the Chapter Master decided to crash their ships into the launch bays. The other half disagreed and, in a horrid turn of events, abandoned their brothers and left the system. Meanwhile on the hulk, the loyal marines fought a desperate boarding action against the xenos scum. Eventually, they managed to gain a foothold on the hulk. The techmarines began constructing a base out of the materials onboard their wrecked ships and the various parts of the hulk. Ever since, the Purifiers have slowly been expanding their base on the hulk. In fact, for the final test of a scout, they must clear a section of the ship. Marines returning to the hulk traditionally also clear a section. Unfortunately, though they are radically devoted to the emperor and purifying the galaxy in his name, their efforts have been dogged at every step by the Planet R****s. They suspect there is a homing device or a small band of R****s somewhere on board, but do to the massive size of the hulk, they have not been able to locate it. They have had many small engagements and a few major ones but have never been able to wipe the stain from their honor. They view the hulks seemingly random transitions as signs from the emperor as they are an incredibly pious chapter. Due to the loss of half their chapter, they have a non-codex organization system(Note that companies are actually called something to do with their hulk background or something):

1st Company:

Chapter Master

4 Tacticals

2 Devastator

2 Assault(normally deployed without jump packs)

3 Veteran Squads

1 Initiate/Scout group(each company is responsible for own recruiting)

3 Techmarine/Hulkmaster

2 Chaplains

2 Librarian

 

2nd Company:

4 Tacticals

1 Devastator

2 Assault(normally deployed without jump packs)

2 Veteran Squads

1 Initiate/Scout group(each company is responsible for own recruiting)

1 Techmarine/Hulkmaster

1 Captain

2 Chaplains

1 Librarian

 

 

3rd Company:

4 Tacticals

2 Devastator

1 Assault(normally deployed without jump packs)

2 Veteran Squads

1 Initiate/Scout group(each company is responsible for own recruiting)

1 Techmarine/Hulkmaster

1 Captain

2 Chaplains

1 Librarian

 

4th Company:

4 Tacticals

1 Devastator

2 Assault(normally deployed without jump packs)

2 Veteran Squads

1 Initiate/Scout group(each company is responsible for own recruiting)

1 Techmarine/Hulkmaster

1 Captain

2 Chaplains

1 Librarian

 

5th Company:

4 Tacticals

1 Devastator

2 Assault(normally deployed without jump packs)

2 Veteran Squads

1 Initiate/Scout group(each company is responsible for own recruiting)

1 Techmarine/Hulkmaster

1 Captain

2 Chaplains

1 Librarian

 

Basically each company is it's own independent entity with it's own fleet and part of the hulk. Note that all this is just a rough bit and will be changed almost constantly. Sorry for the delay but I'm watching a movie at the same time as well as doing about a million other things.

[Shinzaren]

@ Shinzaren: Good idea. I was going to suggest you two head up your own creations. If you want, you can use my Days of Darkness first post as an organizational template.

Oh no, not at all. See, I have NO ideas about the PRs, beyond the name. They are as much the Liber's chapter as my own. I will take any and all input, and I would gladly turn over writing control and what not. I'm not sure how much GMID has thought out the Purifiers, but the PRs are a blank slate ^_^

[Chapter Master Ignis Domus]

I'd like to have the final say in major fluff things to prevent this going wildly out of control, but otherwise, I'd say it's everyone's chapter. I'm writing up some fluff for them right now.

[The Normish]

Alright, so how about this for a color scheme for the PRs?

 

 

EDIT: That black shoulder trim is supposed to be red, but the painter has some issues.

Re-EDIT: Oh yeah, but those legs are black. Trim is white/off-white.

[Chapter Master Ignis Domus]

I assume they would be a Slaaneshi warband. They could have a Red Corsairey pirate theme.

[Shinzaren]

Alright, so how about this for a color scheme for the PRs?

 

 

EDIT: That black shoulder trim is supposed to be red, but the painter has some issues.

Re-EDIT: Oh yeah, but those legs are black. Trim is white/off-white.

 

Yikes. That is... gaudy... Perhaps change the eye color though?

[The Normish]

Yikes. That is... gaudy... Perhaps change the eye color though?

Yeah, I forgot to do that... Oh well, you cna just pciture it in your head, because I'm not going back to the painter for that.

 

I wanted to ask though, Khorne and Slaanesh are hated enemies, right? So the idea of a Khornate/Slaaneshi warband is out of the question.

I imagine them as sort of hyper violent excitable Slaanesh worshipers, more focused on the emotions and excesses of pillage and battle than those more indecent ones. They would be r**ing the planet by burning and looting (so sort of like Viking Pirates mixed with Heavy Metal bands and Satanists then).

 

That would make them the delinquents to the Purifier's church-boys.

[Shinzaren]

Yikes. That is... gaudy... Perhaps change the eye color though?

Yeah, I forgot to do that... Oh well, you cna just pciture it in your head, because I'm not going back to the painter for that.

 

I wanted to ask though, Khorne and Slaanesh are hated enemies, right? So the idea of a Khornate/Slaaneshi warband is out of the question.

I imagine them as sort of hyper violent excitable Slaanesh worshipers, more focused on the emotions and excesses of pillage and battle than those more indecent ones. They would be r**ing the planet by burning and looting (so sort of like Viking Pirates mixed with Heavy Metal bands and Satanists then).

 

That would make them the delinquents to the Purifier's church-boys.

 

Understand the motivations for having them be Slaanesh worshipers. There is only one problem. I utterly hate Slaanesh :P Haha. But, depending on popular consensus, we can do what the Liber prefers :tu:

[The Normish]

Yikes. That is... gaudy... Perhaps change the eye color though?

Yeah, I forgot to do that... Oh well, you cna just pciture it in your head, because I'm not going back to the painter for that.

 

I wanted to ask though, Khorne and Slaanesh are hated enemies, right? So the idea of a Khornate/Slaaneshi warband is out of the question.

I imagine them as sort of hyper violent excitable Slaanesh worshipers, more focused on the emotions and excesses of pillage and battle than those more indecent ones. They would be r**ing the planet by burning and looting (so sort of like Viking Pirates mixed with Heavy Metal bands and Satanists then).

 

That would make them the delinquents to the Purifier's church-boys.

 

Understand the motivations for having them be Slaanesh worshipers. There is only one problem. I utterly hate Slaanesh :P Haha. But, depending on popular consensus, we can do what the Liber prefers :tu:

Yeah I hate Slaanesh as well (Khorne's my favorite Chaos God, because he's less "evil" and more "insane"). Still, he's the best god for this case.

Should we have a vote or what?

[Octavulg]

Naming a Slaaneshi warband the Planet Forcible-Fornicators is not going to create the not-creepy impression from the name.

[Shinzaren]

Not yet I think. We can focus on other aspects until we build a bit more interest. Right now, we don't have enough people to take a proper vote.

[Erasmus of Baal]

Should we have a vote or what?

No morals, going around "un-purifying" for no apparent reason--apparently it's not just pure and wanton destruction, so my vote goes to Slaanesh.

 

However, Octavulg does have a good point. While I believe that Slaanesh is more appropriate, they may need to be Khornate or Chaos Undivided for forum-legality purposes.

[Shinzaren]

Naming a Slaaneshi warband the Planet Forcible-Fornicators is not going to create the not-creepy impression from the name.

Yeah, not only that, but that is like taking a sledgehammer to the theme haha. We don't need to overdue too much.

[The Normish]

Right, so what do we have on the PRs so far? Name subject to change, or the theme - if Octavulg's prediction is correct, we may have to change one or the other.

 

- Possibly Slaaneshi Warband a la Red Corsairs.

- Gaudy color scheme.

- Arch-nemeses of the Purifiers, the delinquents to the church-boys, the ketchup to the mustard.

- Like ruining all the hard work of the Purifiers.

- Reason for hatred is unknown, confusion to no end.

- Travel around in some sort of sleek, fast fleet (opposing the Purifier's Hulk - which is a wonderful idea in its own right, great fluff right there).

 

Still under formation... Let me work on some code to use in the first post as a sort of project log you can edit in, Shinzaren.

[Shinzaren]

Right, so what do we have on the PRs so far? Name subject to change, or the theme - if Octavulg's prediction is correct, we may have to change one or the other.

 

- Possibly Slaaneshi Warband a la Red Corsairs.

- Gaudy color scheme.

- Arch-nemeses of the Purifiers, the delinquents to the church-boys, the ketchup to the mustard.

- Like ruining all the hard work of the Purifiers.

- Reason for hatred is unknown, confusion to no end.

- Travel around in some sort of sleek, fast fleet (opposing the Purifier's Hulk - which is a wonderful idea in its own right, great fluff right there).

 

Still under formation... Let me work on some code to use in the first post as a sort of project log you can edit in, Shinzaren.

 

This is all well and good :) I'll edit it when it gets organized. In the mean time, I think we should focus on the Purifiers. They are the focus, if only slightly. They should be our first priority. Let's work with GMID to get them nailed down :)

[The Normish]

[basicheaderhalf=000099]Index Astartes: Purifiers / Index Traitoris: Planet R****s[/basicheaderhalf]

[table=The PPR Project][th][b]Purifiers[/b][/th][th][b]Planet R****s[/b][/th][tr][td=50%]Loyalist[/td][td=50%]Traitor/Renegade[/td][/tr][tr][td=50%][i]More information to go here...[/i][/td][td=50%][i]More information to go here...[/i][/td][/tr][/table]

[b]Updates (as of 5/11/2010 18:27 Eastern Time - U.S. and Canada):[/b]
- 15/11/2010 18:27 ET --- Project launched by [b]Shinzaren[/b] (post #1)
- [i]More on new members and important posts will go here...[/i]

Which ends up looking like this:

 

Index Astartes: Purifiers / Index Traitoris: Planet R****s

 

The PPR Project

Loyalist	Traitor/Renegade
More information to go here...	More information to go here...

 

Updates (as of 5/11/2010 18:27 Eastern Time - U.S. and Canada):

- 15/11/2010 18:27 ET --- Project launched by Shinzaren (post #1)

- More on new members and important posts will go here...

 

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And you could also have the actual IA either here, in a post later on, or in a separate thread. In fact, I recommend that this thread be only for team development, questions about the project, and requests to help, while the product be updated on a separate thread which will be open for the criticism on the actual IA, as we have it in the Liber for the regular stuff. No sense over cluttering this thread with both our debates, public interest, fluff updates, and criticism of the actual wok - it would get confusing.

 

Yes, it would be best to get working on the Purifiers, I'll let Chapter Master Ignis Domus focus on that, I'd mainly like to help on the organizational front and with the PRs, but I'll contribute as well.

[Chapter Master Ignis Domus]

I like the table idea. We could even have a chart to fill in as we go along, with sections like homeworld, origins, founding, etc. based on the format for IA's and IT's. The project log sounds cool, and we could even go back as far as the various times they were mentioned. Oh, and Shinzaren, I keep seeing GMID. I'm not a grand master, I'm a chapter master. Sorry. :) Don't worry about it.

[Shinzaren]

I like the table idea. We could even have a chart to fill in as we go along, with sections like homeworld, origins, founding, etc. based on the format for IA's and IT's. The project log sounds cool, and we could even go back as far as the various times they were mentioned. Oh, and Shinzaren, I keep seeing GMID. I'm not a grand master, I'm a chapter master. Sorry. :) Don't worry about it.

I...promoted...you? Haha. I will update the table and the project as it is filled in. As long as Normish keeps up to date on the coding that is :) In either case, it's bedtime for Shinz. Keep doin your thing and I will update any changes and add what I can when I arise :)

[Chapter Master Ignis Domus]

Adieu, Mademoiselle, I must fly!

[Consul of Scorpions]

Separate Companies: using this same idea for a revision of my Resplendent Scorpions/Sand Dragons/Centurions.

 

On the connotations of pillage and related four-letter words: R^p3, according my miniscule efforts at research, seems to imply extreme levels of destruction and abuse to the local populace up to and often including that four-letter word being used as a psychological tactic and/or just not caring what your men do; the best analogy I can think of is something like the 'Aryan Agenda' done to one city in the course of a few days combined with a reverse scorched-earth policy (i.e. burning, looting, and destroying everything you find as you take over instead of while you're retreating).

 

So, honestly, any way you slice it Slaaneshi warbands are probably the best way to go, but in the interest of a family-friendly forum, you could make only the most extreme/experienced members Slaaneshi devotees and make everyone else Undivided with a vendetta a la the Iron Warriors.

[Aurelius Rex]

I think that the name, and its unaviodable associations with sexual violence make it completely inappropriate for the B&C. :P

 

Further, it is going to completely de-rail any serious discussion of either chapter. The sooner it is changed, the sooner you will be able to get people discussing the matter in hand rather than the controversy of the name... and ideally in a completely new thread.