Centurions vs. Cremators: Revise or Restart?

[Consul of Scorpions]

So, I've got two ideas for IAs in my head and can't decide which should demand my attention first.

 

The first is the Centurions Chapter, a revision of the Sand Dragons (see sig for details) which themselves are a revision of the Resplendent Scorpions. These guys have gone from genespliced Dark Angels/Emperor's Children to a bunch of independent neophyte-heavy companies that go around dropping into some of the worst fighting in the galaxy seemingly just because and do very little talking (or any at all for that matter!). Special Rules, Scouts, and Drop Pods are the flavor of the week here.

 

The Second is the Cremators World Breakers Chapter, an idea spawned by the Purifiers. Essentially, the core idea behind these guys is that they're fond of exterminating entire planets (with fire, of course) when they arrive on scene and only act when called upon, unlike the Centurions whom often just jump into a conflict without speaking to anyone about it first... or during... or after. I'm seeing a fondness for flamers, meltas, and Inquisitorial Orbital Bombardments (which is oddly enough kind of the jurisdiction of the Adeptus Sororitas).

 

So, Liberites, which should I work on first?

[Octavulg]

Mash the two together. Centurions doesn't work well as a name - it's origin is too obvious, and it's use in 40K too hard to explain. The Cremators feel really similar to a number of other Chapters recently on the go on the Liber.

 

A desert-based Chapter which purified everything with fire (which could also include the allusion that they purified their home world at one point in the past) could be pretty neat.

[Consul of Scorpions]

The use is entirely literalism: Centurions> Century> 100> Company

 

Any allusions to a Romanesque theme are otherwise completely avoided.

 

However, the Cremators purging their homeworld is oddly... fitting... considering the discussions on the Sand Dragons thread, which would make for a second name change in their history... but no, I'd like to avoid any connections to the previous attempts at an IA this time, which makes my decision an easy one: the Cremators.

 

EDIT: though I do love the idea, Octavulg, it just smacks far too close to what I've already written upon and I don't like to cross paths already trodden.

 

EDIT2: ...but then again...

[Octavulg]

A century was a group of 80. :D

 

Before doing the Cremators, take a look at Ecritter's Sons of Pyron. Not that you couldn't do a fire-based Chapter, it's just that I think it would be best if you did one pronouncedly different from that.

 

And I assure you, dredging up old ideas and bastardising them into new ones is a fine and honorable tradition in the Liber. One day I'll dredge up some of the stuff I cut from the first Ice Lords IA. Chapter Masters betraying their Chapter and warrens of evil beneath home worlds are both fun.

[Grey Hunter Ydalir]

EDIT: though I do love the idea, Octavulg, it just smacks far too close to what I've already written upon and I don't like to cross paths already trodden.

 

The problem is that continuously writing new IA's after an older one sinks is just going to end in pain, most of the time. IA's require real work and dedication to build up properly. Rehashing older IA's and as Octavulg said, bastardizing them with other ideas is great as it allows you to build from older work.

 

Starting again and again is having you throwing out the baby with the bathwater, it's too much. New ideas are fine, but so are old ones.

[Ecritter]

Before doing the Cremators, take a look at Ecritter's Sons of Pyron. Not that you couldn't do a fire-based Chapter, it's just that I think it would be best if you did one pronouncedly different from that.

 

Link to the Sons is in my Sig. Just wondering if Oct is saying my Sons suck ^_^

[Octavulg]

No, no. I quite like the Sons, actually. :) It's just that while you can create Chapters that resemble other Chapters, it is best if you don't do it at the same time.

 

Hence, he should read the Sons - then not do any of it. His idea is going to be inherently compared to other fire-based Chapters currently on the forum - it is thus best if he avoids such comparisons as much as possible, since you generally want people to be reading your work on its own merits.

[Consul of Scorpions]

I'm also partial to the name of 'World Breakers' now that I remember that suggestion. As long as it evokes destruction on an unnecessarily large scale and doesn't sound abashed about it and now that I think about it, Cremators is a little too solemn and respectful for my tastes. :)

Though combining the ideas of betrayal, warrens of evil, and cleansing one's homeworld might make for an interesting dynamic.

Also, here's a rough idea of the color scheme I've been mulling over in my head after reading some article on the emotive meanings behind color.