The Future

[Bracks0682]

After reading the Dark Eldar codex. I'm begining to feel that the future codex that we all hope for will have some sort of flyer/skimmers at our diposal. Has anyone got any thought's regarding the inclusion of these "Aircraft" skimmers.

[Judanas]

For the Sisters I can see a couple of possibilities.

 

Valkyries: The Sisters are inquisitorial troops and that means they could use Inquisitorial Valks. It’s the most likely transport option.

 

Lightning fighters: Fast, good light skimmers that would act a decent light tank hunters. May need some more weapon options.

 

Original Immolator: Very Unlikely. The original chassis for the immolator could not be made because they didn’t have a full design and didn’t understand it enough to finish on their own. They could easily say it was a heavy hover tank and a new set of STC readouts gave them enough to finish it. Skimmer MBT with either one or two Immolator style turrets.

 

That’s my two thrones.

[Gentlemanloser]

For the GK. Stormraven. ;)

[Bracks0682]

You never know we might I mean might get a Plastic T*********K.. Just a thought..

[NExOBLIVISCARIS]

Stormravens and i could see a valkrye being plausable.

[Algesan]

A skimmer chassis Immolator!

Hopefully half size squads.

(Be still my heart!)

 

DEATH FROM ABOVE!

 

Heh, a rain of Immolators (carrying Battle Sisters) and Seraphim fall upon the wicked.

 

Okay, that was a fun thought, move along, nothing to see here.

[Warsmith Aznable]

Valkyrie seems like the most likely option, seeing as how it's a transport model that they already have in a plastic kit.

[Onnotangu]

as long as we are wish listing a Holy Prolitheuim Fuel air bomb for the valks.

 

str 7 ap 3 large blast no cover and and forced chance to fall back.

 

if you are wondering what that is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermobaric_weapon

[Firenze]

I want flyers in all armies. Especially my chapter. And the GKs

[Hellbreaker]

if you are wondering what that is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermobaric_weapon

Or something akin to a napalm bomb (or whatever that stuff that burns for ages is called), leaving an area 'burning' forcing any units inside to take X Strength Y hits each turn. (With the strength decreasing for each turn after the bomb was dropped?)

There needs to be more fire in 40k.

 

Cheers!

[Warsmith Aznable]

I don't necessarily see this as "wish-listing", just considering what would make sense considering that apparent direction for flyers/skimmers that the game seems to be taking.

 

To push the idea out a little further, I can totally see GW making the Valkyrie or the new Storm Raven into the new "Rhino chassis for flyers", in that they use it as a base that they can just add an extra sprue to for each army's variant. For our dear little Sisters it could be as simple as a sprue of fleur-de-lis and other Ecclesiarchy iconography combined with a pair of twin-linked Heavy Flamers or summat.

[CompanyChampionSiege]

I wouldn't call this was suppose to be a wish list, but here are my two cents worth: I would like to see them add something to the army that fills that lack of long range. Such as giving them Missile Launchers and in some way, perhaps an act of faith, to make a unit relentless.

[Dark Dajin]

Aquila lander ^_^ --> Really fast Rhino

[Sister Rosette Soulknyt]

Sorry, i just dont see the Sisters of Battle getting any flyer, not even the Valkyrie. It just doesnt feel right to me, its not really there thing.

For say Inquisitorial Stormies, yes i agree, just not the Sisters.

 

I for one dont want flyers at all for them, its not them, id rather see that sort of thing with the IG, the Stormraven only for GK's, DA's (if upgraded) and the BA's.

For a Prmethium Bomb, well thats simple. Either make it a replacement for the HK, or an upgrade for the Excorsist.

[andrewm9]

Sorry, i just dont see the Sisters of Battle getting any flyer, not even the Valkyrie. It just doesnt feel right to me, its not really there thing.

For say Inquisitorial Stormies, yes i agree, just not the Sisters.

 

I for one dont want flyers at all for them, its not them, id rather see that sort of thing with the IG, the Stormraven only for GK's, DA's (if upgraded) and the BA's.

For a Prmethium Bomb, well thats simple. Either make it a replacement for the HK, or an upgrade for the Excorsist.

 

Well Sisters are still an army and should have some form of dropship/gunship. They need to get to the battlefield somehow from orbit. Wars of Faith will need some method of delivery for securing the dropzone.

[Warsmith Aznable]

What doesn't make sense to me is any army in 40k not having access to at least a flying troop transport of some kind. They have to get around the Galaxy somehow.

 

So in the new PDF they can't induct Guard, and inducting Guard is the reason to keep Sisters as a "bolters from battlefield taxis" army, since it doesn't make sense to have units fulfilling the same role in a force. But since they are apparently making the Sisters a "stand-alone" army they are going to need units to fill the roles that their inducted troops did. I think the Sisters need a better tank for their Heavy Support, and a flyer/skimmer for a Fast Attack or transport option. And depending on whether or not they're going to be separated from other Ecclesiarchy units, a walker.

[Judanas]

I'd honestly like to See the penitent engine redone as a monsterous creature instead of a walker. It seems to fit it better in my mind. Not to hard to hurt but bloody hard to kill.

 

That or some more thrones of judgement.

 

But that's just my opinion.

[calypso2ts]

Viable Ecclesiastical components would be pretty nice, but I don't see a flyer in our future. It doesn't seem to fit with SoB. I would like something that can outflank though...

[Eltnot]

Viable Ecclesiastical components would be pretty nice, but I don't see a flyer in our future. It doesn't seem to fit with SoB. I would like something that can outflank though...

I agree, a flyer doesn't seem to fit, but something like a a SoB "Patrol" Attack Bike would.

[Chengar Qordath]

I'm pretty sure a flyer could cause fluff problems for an all-Sororitas force as well, since the Decree Passive bars the Ecclesiarchy from having any naval assets as well as the more infamous "men under arms" prohibition. Granted, flyers could easily be justified as Naval/Inquisitorial assets temporarily allocated to the Sororitas since that's how Valkyries and Vendettas were justified in the Guard codex, but then it would not longer be a pure Adepta Sororitas list.

[JaqTaar]

I agree, a flyer doesn't seem to fit, but something like a a SoB "Patrol" Attack Bike would.

 

I see it the other way round: Flyers (especially the above-mentioned Aquila, but also the Valkyrie) would fit the angelic aspect of the army, while bikes are awefully generic.

[andrewm9]

I'm pretty sure a flyer could cause fluff problems for an all-Sororitas force as well, since the Decree Passive bars the Ecclesiarchy from having any naval assets as well as the more infamous "men under arms" prohibition. Granted, flyers could easily be justified as Naval/Inquisitorial assets temporarily allocated to the Sororitas since that's how Valkyries and Vendettas were justified in the Guard codex, but then it would not longer be a pure Adepta Sororitas list.

 

Where does it say they are forbidden naval assets? I realize that the Sororitas do not have cruisers and that only makes sense I suppose but ferrying troops from low orbit to the ground for securing drop sites seems like Sisters woudl want to do themselves. How does the Church secure such assets from the Navy for their Wars of Faith. You can't invade a planet without them either. I think we don't really know enough about Sisters operations to say.

 

One thing we do know is that they do use drop pods. You can't really discount the Citadel Journal article that makes a list using them as it was written by the same guy who wrote our current codex, Andy Hoare (or at least one of them).

[Chengar Qordath]

Where does it say they are forbidden naval assets?

It's in a sidebar on page 37 of the current WH codex. As for how the Ecclesiarchy gets naval assets for their Wars of Faith, presumably it's via request/negotiation with the Imperial Navy, just the like the Imperial Guard.

[andrewm9]

It's in a sidebar on page 37 of the current WH codex. As for how the Ecclesiarchy gets naval assets for their Wars of Faith, presumably it's via request/negotiation with the Imperial Navy, just the like the Imperial Guard.

 

Ah I knew it was somehwer in there. I just couldn't lay my eyes on it. Thanks. To be fair it seems specific that it is talking about fleets and not necessarily drop ships as I suspected. It really seems like they want all Imperial armies to have some sort of flyer. Half of the current Imeprial Codexes have one in there and its likely that the next (GK) will have one as well.

[Inquisitor Fox]

To be fair, Space Marines are self sufficient, whereas Guard and Navy assets are seperated. Adepta Sororitas are transported aboard Imperial Navy vessals (unless they are already on the planet in question) and therefore would be using Imperial Navy dropships :cuss There's an example of the Imperial Navy transport in Faith and Fire.