Chapter Shoulder Pad, Crux Terminatus and others....

[Soren]

I am confused. I am building 100+ Blood Angels and I want them to be correct.

 

I read in my Blood Angels Codex that the Chapter Shoulder Pad goes on the LEFT. A Termie wears the Crux Terminatus on the LEFT which puts the Chapter Shoulder Pad go on the RIGHT.

 

Are these both correct? If so, is there a reason?

 

Then when a Space Marine has Terminator Honors, does that pad also go on the LEFT which puts the Chapter Shoulder Pad go on the RIGHT?

 

Lastly, what happens when you have a Shoulder Pad that has Rivets on it. I think this might be Pre-Heresy or earlier Power Armour Shoulder Pad, but I do not know.

 

Thank you very much.

 

Soren

[Brother Valerius]

To the best of my understanding...

 

The "standard" way is for the chapter insignia to be on the left shoulder, and the squad marking on the right. If there is something that prevents this (Crux Terminatus, reinforced shoulder pad), then the chapter insignia is placed on the right (and squad marking goes... somewhere? I don't know if there's an "official" way to handle that). Power armored Marines with Terminator honors do not wear the Crux Terminatus on their left shoulder, that is only for actual Terminator armor.

 

Welcome to the B&C!

[Quixus]

Power armored Marines with Terminator honors do not wear the Crux Terminatus on their left shoulder, that is only for actual Terminator armor.

That's my understanding as well. The Cross goes on the right shoulder of PA. There are also attachable crosses, which could go nearly anywhere on the marine.

[WarriorFish]

GW's models have the crux on the left shoulder pad on PA as well (see the Sternguard for an example), but I don't think it's set in stone unlike TDA.

[Soren]

Thank you all for the responses.

 

Here is how I am replicating the 130 BA Shoulder Pads from the one that comes in a Baal Pred.

 

I made the bottom part of the mold with the single BA shoulder pad and three BT shoulder pads:

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j308/SorenDerWeiss/Warhammer/Blood%20Angels/ShoulderPads001.jpg

 

After coating the mold with cooking oil, I put green stuff over the BA shoulder pad until it set: http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j308/SorenDerWeiss/Warhammer/Blood%20Angels/BloodAngelsShoulderPads001.jpg

 

I did this 3 more times:

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j308/SorenDerWeiss/Warhammer/Blood%20Angels/BloodAngelsShoulderPad001.jpg

 

Here are a few before they are completely set and trimmed:

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j308/SorenDerWeiss/Warhammer/Blood%20Angels/BloodAngelsShoulderPads002.jpg

 

I have now made a number of them and I think the quality is getting better. The secret is in knowing how much green stuff to put into the press mold as well as being patient enough to wait until they are set to unmold them. I ave also graduated from oil to K-Y gel. I must admit, I got a funny look at Walmart when I bought K-Y, spray paint, xacto blades and super glue.

 

Comments and criticism welcome.

[Soren]

I redid one of the four molds as I was not happy with it. I have thrown away half a dozen pads so far but I think I now have the technique down pretty well.

 

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j308/SorenDerWeiss/Warhammer/Blood%20Angels/BloodAngelsShoulderPads002-1.jpg

[winterdyne]

If you don't mind my saying I think you'd get a better result from just press moulding the insignia rather than the whole pad. The slight wobbliness you get on that would be less noticeable. You then put a dab of GS on your plastic pad, and press your mould onto that, then trim off the excess.

[Firenze]

Winterdyne has a point. I have a silicon mould for a custom GK termie that failed with a shoulder pad in it. I use the icon, not the whole pad. It gets better results as it can then be placed onto the pad. Alot better, and easier than moulding the whole thing.

[Soren]

I thought I was getting good results, but I will try your method to see if there is an improvement.