DavicusPrime Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 I've been working on adding new units to my all nurgle army. I'm looking for non-traditional Death Guard units but with a definite plague flavor. The idea was to add a winged Daemon Prince calling him the Lord of Flies and his trusty followers the plague of flies (Nurgle Raptors). To fit the fluff the DP and raptors would need sime form of insect like wings. The trick was coming up with a way to make flywings that were sturdy and looked good enough for Papa Nurgle's minions. What is pictured below is my prototype Nurgle Raptor and a couple first attempts and the final design I'm going with. First the wings... I tried greenstuff on plastic card first and it just didn't do it for me. The next was done by making a wire frame and gluing paper to both sides which was much more successful. The final design built off of the wire and paper method but added veins to the wing by adding a wire pattern for the veins between the layers of paper. I rubbed a pencil over them to help make the relief pattern more visible in the picture. http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u298/DavicusPrime/Plague%20Raptors/PlagueRaptorWingPrototype3.jpg The raptor himself was just some Greenstuff compound eyes and a quick reposition of the backpack vents to give the wings more clearance. http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u298/DavicusPrime/Plague%20Raptors/PlagueRaptorPrototypeFront1.jpghttp://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u298/DavicusPrime/Plague%20Raptors/PlagueRaptorPrototypeRear1.jpg More pictures to come as I attach the wings and get some paint on him. -DavicusPrime Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215436-when-ever-someone-sneezes-a-plague-raptor-gets-his-wings/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 Awesome. Just awesome. Although I personally think that Raptors are overcosted for anything but 5 man 2x melta tank hunting, I've always wanted a unit of insect winged raptors for my DG army just for the flavor, but I am terrible at conversions and scratch-building, so I never did it, you on the other hand seem to be well on your way. Oh and honestly I think I like your card and GS wings better than the paper and wire ones, but that's just me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215436-when-ever-someone-sneezes-a-plague-raptor-gets-his-wings/#findComment-2566952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolakhs Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Sorry but I will be shamelessly stealing this idea for my Plague Marines. Too good to pass up, and please, keep us updated, I wanna see just how well this turns out. -Nikolakhs Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215436-when-ever-someone-sneezes-a-plague-raptor-gets-his-wings/#findComment-2567015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rottenlad Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Love it :D Can't wait to see the finished fig. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215436-when-ever-someone-sneezes-a-plague-raptor-gets-his-wings/#findComment-2567048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
d@n Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 I like it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215436-when-ever-someone-sneezes-a-plague-raptor-gets-his-wings/#findComment-2567169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Mick Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 (edited) Great looking model and wings, this idea off plastic raptors im probally gonna use to. Great job B) . Edited December 18, 2010 by Captain Mick Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215436-when-ever-someone-sneezes-a-plague-raptor-gets-his-wings/#findComment-2567245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague Dave Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Nice. I've had this idea for quite a while myself, but I still wanted to stick with the actual Raptor models. I'll likely wait until GW finally gets around to making them plastic, though. I'll be interested to see more of these, and how it all comes together. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215436-when-ever-someone-sneezes-a-plague-raptor-gets-his-wings/#findComment-2570398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltimateJake Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 Awesome wings. I really love the eyes. Can't wait to see it finished. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215436-when-ever-someone-sneezes-a-plague-raptor-gets-his-wings/#findComment-2571020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavicusPrime Posted November 25, 2010 Author Share Posted November 25, 2010 So heres a pic of the first attempt at painting a raptor wing: http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u298/DavicusPrime/Plague%20Raptors/PaintedRaptorWing.jpg These things feel like they're made of plastic. I'm quite pleased. So a quick step-by-step: 1) bend yourself the outline of the desired wing (I used 20 gauge wire) and make sure both wings match in shape. 2) Coat a piece of paper (I used standard copier paper) with a thin coat of PVA glue (I used Elmer's Carpenter glue). Then press the outline to it. 3) While the glue is still wet, add more wire to the interior of the wing to form the veins (I used 24 gauge wire but you could use the same stuff as the outline if that's what you've got). 4) Add some more glue to the interior of the wing filling in all voids and press a second piece of paper to the top and press it all together with a paper towel or something similar to push the paper down. Do this on both sides to ensure that the vein pattern is impressed on both sides and that excess glue is pressed out of the interior of the wing. Then allow to cure entirely. 5) Using scissors, cut out the periphery along the wire frame. 6) Coat each side and the edges with watered down PVA glue and allow to dry. And that's it. I did both wings at the same time but the glue kept drying out before I was done. So I had to keep adding a little water to extend the time. Its important to keep the glue wet through the completion of step 4 so that the contour of the veins turns out evenly on both sides. Oh, and I added a little Greenstuff to the end to bulk up the join to the raptor's backpack. I wanted to show you all the whole painted raptor but the temps around here got too low for me to prime him. So as soon as things warm up a bit, I'll get him in the works and the completed model will grace this here thread. So there you go. -DavicusPrime Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215436-when-ever-someone-sneezes-a-plague-raptor-gets-his-wings/#findComment-2571794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vannas Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 yes ,the eyes,how to describe,umm.....i like it ,the work is greatness :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215436-when-ever-someone-sneezes-a-plague-raptor-gets-his-wings/#findComment-2575933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Mick Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Looks great, keep up the good work :) . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215436-when-ever-someone-sneezes-a-plague-raptor-gets-his-wings/#findComment-2576011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Hand Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 I am now monitoring this thread, as it has the potential to develop into a raging case of awesome. Fly Raptors? Seriously cool idea! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215436-when-ever-someone-sneezes-a-plague-raptor-gets-his-wings/#findComment-2587093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ju'kosian Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Looking very great so far !! can't wait to see it finished Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215436-when-ever-someone-sneezes-a-plague-raptor-gets-his-wings/#findComment-2588443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavicusPrime Posted February 24, 2011 Author Share Posted February 24, 2011 Finally figured out how to best attach the wings to the Raptor prototype and here are some pre-paint pictures: http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u298/DavicusPrime/Plague%20Raptors/RaptorWIPFront2.jpg http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u298/DavicusPrime/Plague%20Raptors/RaptorWIPBack2.jpg http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u298/DavicusPrime/Plague%20Raptors/RaptorWIPSide2.jpg Just finished the second wing for the Daemon Prince and as soon as the temps get above freezing I'll prime and paint them. -DavicusPrime Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215436-when-ever-someone-sneezes-a-plague-raptor-gets-his-wings/#findComment-2670765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snugsmike Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Insanely cool. As posted above, I agree that Raptors can only be used as 5 man dual melta squads... so why not use these guys for that? Secondly, are those just glued under the back pack? Third, how do you make those eyes? Obviously green stuff, but do you just put a little blob down and poke it a bunch with a sharp thing? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215436-when-ever-someone-sneezes-a-plague-raptor-gets-his-wings/#findComment-2672300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavicusPrime Posted February 27, 2011 Author Share Posted February 27, 2011 (edited) My rule for units in my army is that I always take 7 as it's Nurgle's sacred Number. As for the load out, I take one Meltagun and one flamer as well as a P-Fist Champ in most of my front line units do they can handle most situations (armor, massed infantry and anything that might need a good solid punch). So far testing the unit out with proxies has been interesting. I'm still trying to learn how to use them well. They don't hit as hard in assault as my regular Plague Marines so trying to take on melee threats, solo isn't were they shine, but adding their attacks to a strategic combat or in tying up a shooty unit to shut down their guns or going after an offending tank with melta and fist are all ways in which they've been useful. The wings have a wire protruding from the end which is inserted into a hole in the back pack with glue. Then I used green stuff around the join to better meld it to the pack in an organic fashion. You got it right for the eyes. A round blob of GS with lines pressed in with the blade of a mini screw driver I have. -DavicusPrime Edited February 27, 2011 by DavicusPrime Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215436-when-ever-someone-sneezes-a-plague-raptor-gets-his-wings/#findComment-2673114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Aznable Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 Turning around the exhaust vents on the backpack is a simple, straightforward thing that makes way more difference visually than I would have imagined. I may steal that idea for something in the future. Those wings are ace, as is the whole model. Inspiring stuff you've got there! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215436-when-ever-someone-sneezes-a-plague-raptor-gets-his-wings/#findComment-2676322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snugsmike Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 And I just noticed the custom Death Guard pads! The skull pad with the two greenstuff skulls added! That's GENIUS!!! Man o man, I might have to steal that too. I'm stuck breaking off all of my old pads that I put on before I had a good idea what I was doing with my army. I spent an arm and a leg on the metal Deathguard pads and have been slowly breaking arms off and gluing on the new ones... what a hassle. Again, great work! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215436-when-ever-someone-sneezes-a-plague-raptor-gets-his-wings/#findComment-2679059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hicks Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Great idea and I love the fly eyes, very nice touch! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215436-when-ever-someone-sneezes-a-plague-raptor-gets-his-wings/#findComment-2688760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 The dark stench of your genius pervades the whole sector. What a great idea! very well done, just felt i had to tell you lots of people really like your idea! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215436-when-ever-someone-sneezes-a-plague-raptor-gets-his-wings/#findComment-2688885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purge Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 great job! The eyes pull the whole image together. Can't wait to see it painted. GW should pay you for this idea and produce these. Awsome raptor idea. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215436-when-ever-someone-sneezes-a-plague-raptor-gets-his-wings/#findComment-2689011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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