HERO Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 I see this best for Salamanders. 5x Sternguard in there w/ 2x Heavy Flamers and Vulkan. Yumm.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215479-land-raider-achilles/page/2/#findComment-2569711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteridder Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Hmm, maybe for my Long fangs. Nice landraider!!!! Must have Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215479-land-raider-achilles/page/2/#findComment-2569713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturm Moonwolf Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 putting 3 of them is a little overkill IMO and just shows what kind of general/player a person is. Valid point, then again taking multiple units in Apocalypse wouldn't be soo bad, would it? Where the enemy has access to Titans and Super Heavy Battle Tanks and so on. A bonus for this is it's suitable for a Heresy era force, meaning my Wolves can make use of, along with Regular Land Raiders. (Though only in Apoc) Aye wolf brother, I have but no objections when it comes to Apocalypse games for when it comes to Apocalypse anything goes! and your opponent wont hold back either. Had brother Sturm mentioned Apocalypse in his comment, then I would have kept my lips open only for drinking! cheers Yes, I meant in an Apocalypse game, how else would I have a City-breaker formation of them. With all the overkilly in Apoc, I have no qualms about fielding any Land Raider formation in my titan lacking army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215479-land-raider-achilles/page/2/#findComment-2569782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niiai Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 I have never learned what the imperial armour is, is it legal to just meet up with them? I know moast are for flavour, like the last book that came out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215479-land-raider-achilles/page/2/#findComment-2569853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
surelock Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 It may also work nicely for Arjac and a coupla his wolf guard buddies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215479-land-raider-achilles/page/2/#findComment-2569869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPetersson Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 I have never learned what the imperial armour is, is it legal to just meet up with them? I know moast are for flavour, like the last book that came out. Imperial Armour is a supplement from Forgeworld which you can use with your opponent's permission. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215479-land-raider-achilles/page/2/#findComment-2569876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redeye Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 My 2 x Long fangs packs, must have this, will use the all four Heavy slots. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215479-land-raider-achilles/page/2/#findComment-2569891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Yes, I meant in an Apocalypse game, how else would I have a City-breaker formation of them. With all the overkilly in Apoc, I have no qualms about fielding any Land Raider formation in my titan lacking army. Talking about a certain formation could mean or be referred to as anything in general. Believe it or not, I've seen new players reference certain formations in normal games and tournament settings, of course without the special rules attached to them. I knew it was in a form of Apocalypse game, yet your sentence didn't indicate or dictate it as such. So for those people who are not as informative when it comes to the many different types of formations in Apocalypse games. They could and would simply assume anything without the proper information taken from your original sentence. Mainly put, I was just messing around. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215479-land-raider-achilles/page/2/#findComment-2570105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brannrik Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 well or you could play this jsut as the heasy battle tank it is with an iron smith inside with 3 thrall servitors. It would come out at 380 points with is huge, but on the other hand exept by MCs realy hard to come by. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215479-land-raider-achilles/page/2/#findComment-2570307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chodjinn Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 I was only ever going to ahve a single land raide rin my loganwing, now it'll be two as this is by far the best version of the LR. Mine will be suitably chopped about for a pre-heresy look like my other one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215479-land-raider-achilles/page/2/#findComment-2570892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenric Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 I'm 100% sure my friends would nebver allow this machine on our table. I love it and it's cool but it's prob too cheap and too hard to kill in anything less than apocalypse. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215479-land-raider-achilles/page/2/#findComment-2570951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olgerth Istaarn Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 For 300 points, you can have a fire magnet that can be put out of commission with one lucky hit, or ten heavy weapons that have a small footprint and can hide in cover. The tank is hella cool, sure... and it will draw a lot of fire right off the bat... but even if it doesn't get wrecked, an immobilize is enough to gimp it severely (the thunderfire is hull-mounted after all). It'll be a FANTASTIC flavor piece, but for efficiency, I'll always pick Long Fangs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215479-land-raider-achilles/page/2/#findComment-2570966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baluc Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 Its seems crazy hard to kill. No Melta no Lance. -3 on the table when you glance. Only lascannons, railcannons or ordanance are going to get it done. And even they need a 6 to destroy it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215479-land-raider-achilles/page/2/#findComment-2571056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 I'm 100% sure my friends would nebver allow this machine on our table. I love it and it's cool but it's prob too cheap and too hard to kill in anything less than apocalypse. Get better friends. Given some of the things coming out of official codexes these days, this isn't that far fetched. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215479-land-raider-achilles/page/2/#findComment-2571159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitefireinferno Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 My group is the same as Fenric, and well I have to agree this thing is made of derp, The only use for this is to stick scouts/cheap troops choice and a MOTF/Techie/ect and have a stupid tank that will not die still eats up enough points But is still very much Derp. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215479-land-raider-achilles/page/2/#findComment-2571584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Those are a harsh groups of "friends." Kinda reminds me of the type of people and a few tournament organizers who didn't allow SW armies in their tables prior to the new codex. Only because they were considered old and broken. Everybody is or has been a hypocrite in their time, I'm sure those group of "friends" have contradict themselves in their table top experience at one point in their lives. Anyway, enough about that... I'd taxi a Lone Wolf in TDA with two Fen. Wolves in that tank and roll him into battle, if a Lone Wolf has to make an entrance this is the tank to do it. Just imagine, he pops out.. now your opponent not only has to worry about the Lone Wolf but also his ride. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215479-land-raider-achilles/page/2/#findComment-2571595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormshrug Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Well, the name certainly is appropriate. Nigh indestructible, terrifying offensive capacity, and not much of a team player (low transport capacity). Transport capacity six really does limit its usefulness to moving Long Fangs and Stupid Rune Priest Tricks. And I suppose, maybe, a Super Friends squad. -Stormshrug Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215479-land-raider-achilles/page/2/#findComment-2571609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenric Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 I'm 100% sure my friends would nebver allow this machine on our table. I love it and it's cool but it's prob too cheap and too hard to kill in anything less than apocalypse. Get better friends. Given some of the things coming out of official codexes these days, this isn't that far fetched. Nah man I got great friends and it was me sayign it not really them. It is just too hard to kill ina normal game to be properly balanced. Had it been no melta no lances aso but not the -1 on charts it would have been closer to balanced. And sure even if my friends would allow it I dont think they would be happy playing with me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215479-land-raider-achilles/page/2/#findComment-2571731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsavong Lah Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Transport capacity six really does limit its usefulness to moving Long Fangs and Stupid Rune Priest Tricks. And I suppose, maybe, a Super Friends squad. I'm not sure about that... five naked Grey Hunters inside so it can sit on objectives and do it's indestructible shindig all day long sounds like a pretty good transport payload. ...a little cruel, though. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215479-land-raider-achilles/page/2/#findComment-2571740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Perfect counter.... ironclad mounted in Lucius droppod. 1st turn deepstrike charge. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215479-land-raider-achilles/page/2/#findComment-2571805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CainTheHunter Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Perfect counter.... ironclad mounted in Lucius droppod. 1st turn deepstrike charge. Or drop two webway portals on both sides of it, so he can't move for the rest of the game. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215479-land-raider-achilles/page/2/#findComment-2571814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 For 300 points, you can have a fire magnet that can be put out of commission with one lucky hit, or ten heavy weapons that have a small footprint and can hide in cover. The tank is hella cool, sure... and it will draw a lot of fire right off the bat... but even if it doesn't get wrecked, an immobilize is enough to gimp it severely (the thunderfire is hull-mounted after all). It'll be a FANTASTIC flavor piece, but for efficiency, I'll always pick Long Fangs. However, it can stand up to a ridiculously large amount of firepower, several turns, I'd say. And also, that firepower is firepower not directed at the rest of your army, which means your opponent has to choose whether to take down a single, 300 point unit, or the rest of your army that's driving/running/skipping towards him. It gives him a die or die choice. Think rock and hard place. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215479-land-raider-achilles/page/2/#findComment-2575589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 I dont know about 'rediculous amounts'. -1 on the damage chart is great, it really is, but theres alot of good AP 1 firepower out there if you know where to grab it.... Though ignoring the lance special rule is very nice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215479-land-raider-achilles/page/2/#findComment-2575642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 What has a lot of high strength, AP 1 firepower? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215479-land-raider-achilles/page/2/#findComment-2575645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 my wife during any holiday when everything is on sale :huh: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215479-land-raider-achilles/page/2/#findComment-2575667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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