Winterseven Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 I was just looking over on the News and Rumors board and read that the Blood Angels are getting new models in early 2011. Considering that GW didn't bother to update Ragnar, Ulrik, Logan or the Iron Priest Models or provide us with any Thunderwolves, I was wondering - when are we going to get a second wave? We could do with a Bjorn plastic Kit, a few more scout options in my opinion and maybe an update on those listed above. I know GW dont work in terms of fairness but if anyone deserves a second wave it's us as it's been over a year now. Any thoughts on this? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215526-will-we-see-a-second-wave-in-2011/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG Vrox Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 It's mostly about sales and revenue generation for GW so considering the growing popularity of space wolves, I think they will. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215526-will-we-see-a-second-wave-in-2011/#findComment-2568196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 I understand your concerns, I mean even Dark Eldar has their second wave minis already previewed. But the dark kin have waited for their time in the spot light long enough. As for next year... the only guarantee we have are two new novels. And a forge world goodie in a form of Wolves vs. the Eldar = which common sense would conclude, more forge world space wolf stuff! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215526-will-we-see-a-second-wave-in-2011/#findComment-2568197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterseven Posted November 21, 2010 Author Share Posted November 21, 2010 Dark Eldar I can fully understand and I actually think they look very good so they were worth the wait (emperor save me for complimenting the Xenos). But I would have thought that as wolves were released before the Blood Angels then we would see a second wave sooner!! Still hopefully the Forgeworld stuff will be interesting and the new MK4 Ironclads look good for some converting. I just long for a decent ragnar sculpt thats all!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215526-will-we-see-a-second-wave-in-2011/#findComment-2568220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Honestly, I'm surprised the Wolves haven't had their second wave yet. Should have gotten it months ago. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215526-will-we-see-a-second-wave-in-2011/#findComment-2568238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
biadetic Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 I'd say it's because of the Stormraven leak, maybe they want to get it out and released now instead of waiting another year or half a year for something the public are going to complain about especially if we knows it's sitting there ready to go, ye know? Personally, I'd rather the Wolves arrive =] Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215526-will-we-see-a-second-wave-in-2011/#findComment-2568258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikyjames Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 As others have said, I'd imagine we'll see something when the FW book comes out, may well be why we haven't had anything yet. James Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215526-will-we-see-a-second-wave-in-2011/#findComment-2568260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Lord Mjolnir Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 I honesty believe that GW have not released thunder wolves as they were not ready. I think Canis was ready so they released him and were not prepared for the volume of negativity towards the model. This has made then rethink the plastic kit which will get released but with a very significant delay. Maybe even near end of next year. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215526-will-we-see-a-second-wave-in-2011/#findComment-2568314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 The longer a company waits to put out a product, the better it is for them to do the job correctly. I think GW is looking at the current Thunderwolf models outside of their GW range, to go from there. ie. Sony puts out an SLR camera, and so does Panasonic. They both compete with the current tech and consumer demands. Canon holds off and looks at both Sony and Panasonic, to combine the pro's of both SLR into their camera, making it better than the first two. So I'm hoping GW will do justice with the second wave Space Wolves minis. If all else fails, Forge World is the way to go! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215526-will-we-see-a-second-wave-in-2011/#findComment-2568334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theis Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 According to the latest rumour milling over on warseer, the Space Wolves and Eldar book, IA11, is rumoured to be around March sometime, and that GW has expressly asked FW not to do thunder wolves. The conjecture flying around is that this means GW has a release planned for those, hopefully similarly timed. I certainly hope that the timing is correct, but I'm not holding my breath. I've got a fairly decent FW addiction, so I reckon on picking up whatever they do regardless. GW's recent efforts have been pretty outstanding as well. So, I'll probably pick up whatever they release, whenever they do. Wolves are my primary army, and if there a good figures released, I'll pick them up simply to enjoy painting them. Would love a new Ragnar sculpt myself. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215526-will-we-see-a-second-wave-in-2011/#findComment-2568370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopToffee Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Glad I'm not the only one who's a bit ratty about the Blood Angels getting their 2nd wave before we get ours... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215526-will-we-see-a-second-wave-in-2011/#findComment-2569050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Runner Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 The longer a company waits to put out a product, the better it is for them to do the job correctly. I think GW is looking at the current Thunderwolf models outside of their GW range, to go from there. ie. Sony puts out an SLR camera, and so does Panasonic. They both compete with the current tech and consumer demands. Canon holds off and looks at both Sony and Panasonic, to combine the pro's of both SLR into their camera, making it better than the first two. So I'm hoping GW will do justice with the second wave Space Wolves minis. If all else fails, Forge World is the way to go! I have to agree with what Maverik has written, especially when you consider the fiasco and bad feedback they got from the Canis Wolfborn model. I think they are finally listening and want to do it right. (At least that's what I hope). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215526-will-we-see-a-second-wave-in-2011/#findComment-2569239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfpack Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 ^^let's just keep our fingers crossed shall we?^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215526-will-we-see-a-second-wave-in-2011/#findComment-2569288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodmange Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Something tells me that we'll see our 2nd wave when Forgeworld does Imperial Armor 11 since thats when then Space Wolves are rumored to get their FW treatment as well as the Eldar. Just my guess though Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215526-will-we-see-a-second-wave-in-2011/#findComment-2569335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterseven Posted November 22, 2010 Author Share Posted November 22, 2010 I'd like to see an FW take on Bjorn - or maybe another indpendant character like a new Wolf Priest maybe! Anyway I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens in IA11. And regarding the Canis Model, the wolf was pretty bad looking - Mr Dandy does some cracking wolf models but at about £60 for the five different variants they are very pricey. Let's hope GW's are as good if not better and in the £20-£30 mark! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215526-will-we-see-a-second-wave-in-2011/#findComment-2569400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechSpacewulf Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 I would not trust GW to come up with an affordable solution to Thunder Wolves as they have never really even made up our own fenrisians after 11+ years. The box set would come in a 3 pack probably and have certain weapons omitted. We need a new Bjorn and Logan. The Greyhunter boxes are amazing until you realize there are no flamers or meltas, seriously :P! I'd like to see an FW take on Bjorn - or maybe another indpendant character like a new Wolf Priest maybe! Anyway I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens in IA11. And regarding the Canis Model, the wolf was pretty bad looking - Mr Dandy does some cracking wolf models but at about £60 for the five different variants they are very pricey. Let's hope GW's are as good if not better and in the £20-£30 mark! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215526-will-we-see-a-second-wave-in-2011/#findComment-2570325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
narf Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 really? you think 60 quid for 5 models is pricey, bearing in mind GW will prob do 2 models for 25 quid just to be contrary, or 1 model for 20...... and the reason BA are getting there shiznit out then is partly 2nd wave and partly as grey knoghts will be out at that point, and will also use the storm raven. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215526-will-we-see-a-second-wave-in-2011/#findComment-2570340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterseven Posted November 23, 2010 Author Share Posted November 23, 2010 @narf - regarding the pricing I think £60 (not including shipping whichs is about £7-12 ontop of that) is quite a lot for 5 models when you compare it to the Space Marine or Space Wolf Battle forces at £50 each. Don't get me wrong I'm planning on dropping the £60+ for the models as I think they look great and my gut feel tells me that GW will probably do them in metal anyways considering the Canis Model and the amount they would have to shift to make plastic cost effective! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215526-will-we-see-a-second-wave-in-2011/#findComment-2570365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 5 thunderwolves? I think we are far more likeley three in the box. Refer to the plastic Blood Crushers as the standard. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215526-will-we-see-a-second-wave-in-2011/#findComment-2570394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmk17 Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Yeah, with GW never assume you will get a full unit in a box unless they say so. Thunder wolves would be about the only plastic kit they could give us outside of a Bjorn/Space Wolf Dreadnought kit. The rest would be single model resculpts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215526-will-we-see-a-second-wave-in-2011/#findComment-2570429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune_Priest_Rhapsody Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 I also think that GW is waiting for FW to drop IA 11 to release the second wave on models. If you think along the lines of the amount of "new releases" out right now, there is little to no reason for them to rush the second wave out. They are making good money right now what with the new Deamons models/codex and then entire new line of Dark Eldar. Plus as already mentioned, Grey Knights rumored along with Tau (again, only a rumor I heard) early next year. We just sit, wait, and drink more ale. As for the official release of Thunderwolves: packs of three, fifty dollars plus american, and if they come out before September of 2011, I'll shave off every hair on my hairy body!! As far as the FW release to coincide the IA 11, I hope we get the tower hulk of the man they call Rockfist. -R_P_R Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215526-will-we-see-a-second-wave-in-2011/#findComment-2570554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CainTheHunter Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 5 thunderwolves? I think we are far more likeley three in the box. Refer to the plastic Blood Crushers as the standard. Knowing GW, I'd rather expect 2 TWC per box, so that if You want to field three, You have to buy 3 boxes, or if You want to field just one as the TWL, You still have to overpay for buying just one box. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215526-will-we-see-a-second-wave-in-2011/#findComment-2570703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Son of Russ Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 I bought Paulsons thunderwolves. They suit me fine. I am going to be using wargs as fenrisian wolves, using the pack of 6. Simples. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215526-will-we-see-a-second-wave-in-2011/#findComment-2571340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopToffee Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 We need a new Bjorn and Logan. We need a new Ragnar WAY more than we need either of those tbh Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215526-will-we-see-a-second-wave-in-2011/#findComment-2571416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elahir Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Yeah, if I had to pick a single mini to be redone that would be Ragnar. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215526-will-we-see-a-second-wave-in-2011/#findComment-2571817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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