Those-IA-Equivalent-Things-in-Imperial-Armor

[Dark Apostle Thirst]

Then lets adopt that style instead, if it's superiour (because it allows battles and such to be mentioned).

 

But it's shorter and skips over a lot of the detail the longer IA format allows.

 

The two do different things. Which one is superior will depend on individual preference and individual goals.

 

Trying to pick one as 'better' is silly. They're different, and do different things.

Then why don't we merge the two? Current IA style + extra stuff the Forge World IA uses = new, and superiour IA. Again. It's not complicated. Use what is best for the chapter, for the fluff.

 

Isn't that why the writers come here in the first place? To better their chapters? Then let us make them the best we can.

 

I can't believe this didn't occur to me before now. To offset the large amount of writing one has to do for a normal IA, they get to do some 'fun stuff' in the form of writing out/about a famous battle.

[Ecritter]

I can respect kneejerk xenophobia. :P

 

Burn everyone, to be on the safe side.

 

Well let me get this straight. GW made IAs ... correct? And FW made this new thing? :)

 

So if we go by GW we don't 'have' to accept this abomination? :P

 

My Chapters pledge to crusade to drive this from the Imperium in the name of the Emperor. ;)

[Ecritter]

Then why don't we merge the two? Current IA style + extra stuff the Forge World IA uses = new, and superiour IA. Again. It's not complicated. Use what is best for the chapter, for the fluff.

 

Isn't that why the writers come here in the first place? To better their chapters? Then let us make them the best we can.

 

I can't believe this didn't occur to me before now. To offset the large amount of writing one has to do for a normal IA, they get to do some 'fun stuff' in the form of writing out/about a famous battle.

 

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[Dark Apostle Thirst]

Then why don't we merge the two? Current IA style + extra stuff the Forge World IA uses = new, and superiour IA. Again. It's not complicated. Use what is best for the chapter, for the fluff.

 

Isn't that why the writers come here in the first place? To better their chapters? Then let us make them the best we can.

 

I can't believe this didn't occur to me before now. To offset the large amount of writing one has to do for a normal IA, they get to do some 'fun stuff' in the form of writing out/about a famous battle.

 

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It's Heresy to create a better product in RL? :)

[Octavulg]

DAT

 

Then why don't we merge the two? Current IA style + extra stuff the Forge World IA uses = new, and superiour IA. Again. It's not complicated. Use what is best for the chapter, for the fluff.

 

Because there are people who don't want to write all the stuff in an IA, or who don't want to write all about battles.

 

IAs refer to something. These are not the thing IAs refer to. Merging the two and calling them IAs is both somewhat confusing and unnecessary.

 

Isn't that why the writers come here in the first place? To better their chapters? Then let us make them the best we can.

 

They come here to better their Chapters, but they want to better them in a direction they like.

 

I can't believe this didn't occur to me before now. To offset the large amount of writing one has to do for a normal IA, they get to do some 'fun stuff' in the form of writing out/about a famous battle.

 

If people don't want to write three thousand or five thousand words on their Chapter, no one should make them (unless they're claiming to write a full IA).

 

This offers a perfect opportunity for people to produce something in an official format that may better suit their needs than an IA or a combined format would.

 

There is no one best format. Trying to make one will fail, because what people want is always different.

[Heru]

And I am getting tired of having to call them 'other articles'. :)

These things need a name. :P

FABRICA ASTARTES!!!!

 

:: Starts swing skull flail around and around ::

[Ecritter]

It's Heresy to create a better product in RL? <_<

 

Are you new to the Imperium? Everything is Heresy!!

[Dark Apostle Thirst]

I can't believe this didn't occur to me before now. To offset the large amount of writing one has to do for a normal IA, they get to do some 'fun stuff' in the form of writing out/about a famous battle.

 

If people don't want to write three thousand or five thousand words on their Chapter, no one should make them (unless they're claiming to write a full IA).

 

This offers a perfect opportunity for people to produce something in an official format that may better suit their needs than an IA or a combined format would.

Oh. I had a misconception that people came here to write an IA. <_<

 

Why does official format matter, BTW?

 

Like I said... this gives them an oppurtunity to write a full IA, but to offset the large amount of writing, they get to break it up with some fun stuff in the form of battles. That way, they can get more flavour into their chapter by writing more stuff about the chapter. I know this doesn't always work out as giving a chapter more flavour, but it does give them the oppurtunity to.

[Ecritter]

And I am getting tired of having to call them 'other articles'. <_<

These things need a name. :lol:

FABRICA ASTARTES!!!!

 

:: Starts swing skull flail around and around ::

 

 

Novus Astartes or Artifex Astartes

[Ace Debonair]

Then why don't we merge the two? Current IA style + extra stuff the Forge World IA uses = new, and superiour IA. Again. It's not complicated. Use what is best for the chapter, for the fluff.

 

Isn't that why the writers come here in the first place? To better their chapters? Then let us make them the best we can.

 

I can't believe this didn't occur to me before now. To offset the large amount of writing one has to do for a normal IA, they get to do some 'fun stuff' in the form of writing out/about a famous battle.

 

Firstly, not everyone thinks writing about battles is fun. <_<

I'll quickly include myself in this column.

 

Secondly, because not everyone wants to write four thousand + words on their chapter's history.

 

Thirdly, because some people would rather have less focus on history and all that stuff and have the battles instead.

 

Lastly, a Liber Astartes project should be fun, not a workload. Some people would find writing an IA9 more fun than writing a regular IA.

 

As a side note, I've settled on what I'm going to call these articles, unless they get an official name. ^_^

And Ecritter, that 'in case of heresy' thing is pure awesome. :lol:

[Heru]

And I am getting tired of having to call them 'other articles'. <_<

These things need a name. :lol:

FABRICA ASTARTES!!!!

 

:: Starts swing skull flail around and around ::

 

 

Novus Astartes or Artifex Astartes

Fabrica means forge, as in Forge World. You know the origin of the format. When you see FA you can think "Forge World Article".

 

NA (not applicable)

AA (alcoholics anonymous)

IA9 (Imperial Armour 9)

[Ecritter]

Sadly, I didnt' make it ... but I do take credit for finding it and bringing it here.

 

I'll call them just about anything to get this over with now.

 

EDIT: Why don't we just have a list of 30 or so names and let everyone call them whatever they wish.

[Dark Apostle Thirst]

Then why don't we merge the two? Current IA style + extra stuff the Forge World IA uses = new, and superiour IA. Again. It's not complicated. Use what is best for the chapter, for the fluff.

 

Isn't that why the writers come here in the first place? To better their chapters? Then let us make them the best we can.

 

I can't believe this didn't occur to me before now. To offset the large amount of writing one has to do for a normal IA, they get to do some 'fun stuff' in the form of writing out/about a famous battle.

 

Firstly, not everyone thinks writing about battles is fun. <_<

I'll quickly include myself in this column.

 

Secondly, because not everyone wants to write four thousand + words on their chapter's history.

 

Thirdly, because some people would rather have less focus on history and all that stuff and have the battles instead.

 

Lastly, a Liber Astartes project should be fun, not a workload. Some people would find writing an IA9 more fun than writing a regular IA.

Ah. First and second points were misconceptions on my part.

 

But doesn't the third point contradict the first one?

 

And yes, for the fourth point, yes it should be. Some view as so, though, with the 4000+ words comments. I don't know about the rest of you, but 4000+ words really doesn't seem to be that much to write about a chapter. It gives you space to expand their character but doesn't force you to repeat yourself. 'shrugs'

 

Again, this was based on the misconception that people come to the Liber to write better IAs.

[Ace Debonair]

IA9 (Imperial Armour 9)

 

I know, but in the absence of an official name I just went with something short and snappy. <_<

 

Fabrica Astartes is pretty cool, though. :lol:

 

I'll call them just about anything to get this over with now.

Same here. This whole thing is way out of hand.

 

EDIT:

But doesn't the third point contradict the first one?

Nah. I took care to say 'some people' rather than 'everyone'. ^_^

Apologies for the confusion, though.

[Ferrata]

Heru, personally the main failing with FABRICA ASTARTES is that it shortens to FA, which to many people will mean Football Assoication. Football Association: Bloody Hands is a very strange image indeed. I think it would be a better approach to think which letter works best with an A and then think of a word after... <_<

[Ecritter]

How about we call them BWF (burn with fire), would that work?

[Captain Juan Juarez]

Heru, personally the main failing with FABRICA ASTARTES is that it shortens to FA, which to many people will mean Football Assoication. Football Association: Bloody Hands is a very strange image indeed. I think it would be a better approach to think which letter works best with an A and then think of a word after... <_<

 

While the point is valid, I will say I think of "FA" as meaning something else, whenever I use the abbreviation.

[Octavulg]

But doesn't the third point contradict the first one?

 

Nope. Some people won't want to write a lot. Some people will want to write about battles. Some people will want both. Some people will want neither.

 

The more options we have, the better we can accomodate them.

 

And yes, for the fourth point, yes it should be. Some view as so, though, with the 4000+ words comments. I don't know about the rest of you, but 4000+ words really doesn't seem to be that much to write about a chapter. It gives you space to expand their character but doesn't force you to repeat yourself. 'shrugs'

 

It's not that much, but you can tell a story in less. Lysimachus had to pad the Iron Gods because they were like 2000 words long, and I assure you, they were riveting.

 

Again, this was based on the misconception that people come to the Liber to write better IAs.

 

As a general rule, the only thing you can safely assume about an author coming to the Liber is that they don't everyone to think their work sucks.

 

And even that's not an ironclad assumption. It's just completely fair.

[Ace Debonair]

Heru, personally the main failing with FABRICA ASTARTES is that it shortens to FA, which to many people will mean Football Assoication. Football Association: Bloody Hands is a very strange image indeed. I think it would be a better approach to think which letter works best with an A and then think of a word after... :lol:

 

Put like that... <_<

Although Astartes football (soccer to any Americans reading) would probably be ridiculously funny to watch.

[Ferrata]

Heru, personally the main failing with FABRICA ASTARTES is that it shortens to FA, which to many people will mean Football Assoication. Football Association: Bloody Hands is a very strange image indeed. I think it would be a better approach to think which letter works best with an A and then think of a word after... <_<

 

While the point is valid, I will say I think of "FA" as meaning something else, whenever I use the abbreviation.

 

True, but that would discredit the amount of work to go into the article.

[Octavulg]

AA is Alcoholics Anonymous

BA is Bachelor of Arts

CA is Chartered Accountant

DA is District Attorney

EA is Electronic Arts

FA is evidently Football Association

GA is Georgia

IA is Index Astartes

LA is Liber Astartes or Los Angeles

MA is Master of Arts

NA is Not Applicable

PA is Pennsylvania

QA is Question and Answer

RA is Residence Assistant

TA is Teaching Assistant

VA is Virginia

WA is Washington

YA is Young Adult

 

That'd leave:

 

HA

JA

KA

OA

SA

UA

XA

ZA

 

And I'm sure some of those have other associations, too. It might be safer to just try and avoid things that are really obvious - the term is likely going to be used most often in context.

[Captain Juan Juarez]

NA is Not Applicable

 

Why isn't it applicable? <_<

[Ace Debonair]

Heru, personally the main failing with FABRICA ASTARTES is that it shortens to FA, which to many people will mean Football Assoication. Football Association: Bloody Hands is a very strange image indeed. I think it would be a better approach to think which letter works best with an A and then think of a word after... :lol:

 

While the point is valid, I will say I think of "FA" as meaning something else, whenever I use the abbreviation.

 

True, but that would discredit the amount of work to go into the article.

I don't ge-

No, wait, I get it. <_<

 

Honorum Astartes, as suggested by Brother Tyler way back in the early pages is quite a nifty name, if we can't think of any others.

[Ecritter]

UA is Unauthorized Absence (from my military days)

[Dark Apostle Thirst]

But doesn't the third point contradict the first one?

 

Nope. Some people won't want to write a lot. Some people will want to write about battles. Some people will want both. Some people will want neither.

 

The more options we have, the better we can accomodate them.

 

That's true. I would rather have a one style fits all, because 1) it sets a standard and 2) it really helps the editors.

 

And yes, for the fourth point, yes it should be. Some view as so, though, with the 4000+ words comments. I don't know about the rest of you, but 4000+ words really doesn't seem to be that much to write about a chapter. It gives you space to expand their character but doesn't force you to repeat yourself. 'shrugs'

 

It's not that much, but you can tell a story in less. Lysimachus had to pad the Iron Gods because they were like 2000 words long, and I assure you, they were riveting.

 

Exception, not the rule :lol: And in such cases it should be accepted regardless of length.

 

 

Again, this was based on the misconception that people come to the Liber to write better IAs.

 

As a general rule, the only thing you can safely assume about an author coming to the Liber is that they don't everyone to think their work sucks.

 

And even that's not an ironclad assumption. It's just completely fair.

I don't understand "is that they don't everyone to think their work sucks." <_<