deaths shadow Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 Hello Death's Shadow here I was woundering if the space Wolves were able to use the Orbital Bombardment Option that other Space Marines can? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215821-orbital-bombardment/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormshrug Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 If you're referring to the Space Marine Chapter Master ability to call down an Orbital Strike once per game, we don't have it. Our Great Wolf Logan Grimnar has a host of cool abilities, but 'Oribital Bombardment' isn't one of them. -Stormshrug Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215821-orbital-bombardment/#findComment-2572429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladislao Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 If you're referring to the Space Marine Chapter Master ability to call down an Orbital Strike once per game, we don't have it. Our Great Wolf Logan Grimnar has a host of cool abilities, but 'Oribital Bombardment' isn't one of them. -Stormshrug and this is gross, having one of the biggest fleet among the space marines chapters (Logan personal ship is an emperor class battleship...). But maybe this is the cause? We have a more imperial navy like fleet, more orientend on spaceship warfare than planetary bombardment? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215821-orbital-bombardment/#findComment-2572630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulweih Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 I think it's because we aren't as afraid as others to engage the enemy face to face on the ground and that we consider it as a last resort. We might appear as barbarians to others, but we are very noble and humane indeed. Maybe its even because we don't want to utterly ruin planets we were sent to save, cause leaving humans alive to scratch a living of bare rocks is not that much saving done :huh: . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215821-orbital-bombardment/#findComment-2572641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Void Master Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 I think its got more to do with game balance than anything else... a wolf lord already wipes the floor real good with a chapter master. He can't do that when said chapter master is spread in a thin veneer all over the countryside... Maybe its even because we don't want to utterly ruin planets we were sent to save I don't think there is much ruining to be done when a city has already been flattened by artillery... Space wolves rarely operate alone in a war zone, they're just deployed where a crucial objective has to be achieved. In wars involving millions of soldiers, a hundred strong company (or maybe 200) isn't going to make much of a dent. They are force multipliers - they cripple enemy mobility, destroy headquarters, the sort of thing that makes it possible for the imperial guard to come in and crush any resistance. And where imperial guard is concerned, flattening a town or two isn't really a big thing. The only real reason for space wolves to be depoloyed by themselves is a stealth mission... and what good is a great big explosion going to do you if you're trying to avoid being found? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215821-orbital-bombardment/#findComment-2572691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 If you're referring to the Space Marine Chapter Master ability to call down an Orbital Strike once per game, we don't have it. Our Great Wolf Logan Grimnar has a host of cool abilities, but 'Oribital Bombardment' isn't one of them. -Stormshrug and this is gross, having one of the biggest fleet among the space marines chapters (Logan personal ship is an emperor class battleship...). But maybe this is the cause? We have a more imperial navy like fleet, more orientend on spaceship warfare than planetary bombardment? Source? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215821-orbital-bombardment/#findComment-2572897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranwulf Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 Hey, Dante, Helbretch, Azrael and Logan Grimnar doesn't have Orbital Bombardment. That happened to have balance, probably. Besides the Dark Angels, it does not makes much sense using Orbital Bombardment while you are in battle when you are a Close Combat/ Quarters Chapter. Ran Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215821-orbital-bombardment/#findComment-2573111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decoy Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 The only real reason for space wolves to be depoloyed by themselves is a stealth mission... and what good is a great big explosion going to do you if you're trying to avoid being found? Unless you're Lukas and wipe out an entire Ork planet by your lonesome, just because you can. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215821-orbital-bombardment/#findComment-2573301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Someone should make a conversion with Logan Grimnar in a Rhino Damocless with the text. Orbital bombardment "yes we can". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215821-orbital-bombardment/#findComment-2573398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladislao Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 If you're referring to the Space Marine Chapter Master ability to call down an Orbital Strike once per game, we don't have it. Our Great Wolf Logan Grimnar has a host of cool abilities, but 'Oribital Bombardment' isn't one of them. -Stormshrug and this is gross, having one of the biggest fleet among the space marines chapters (Logan personal ship is an emperor class battleship...). But maybe this is the cause? We have a more imperial navy like fleet, more orientend on spaceship warfare than planetary bombardment? Source? Sorry, but i do not remember... you should ask to somone with longer fangs... btw it was stated fluff Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215821-orbital-bombardment/#findComment-2573407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wysten Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 I think its got more to do with game balance than anything else... a wolf lord already wipes the floor real good with a chapter master. He can't do that when said chapter master is spread in a thin veneer all over the countryside... Maybe its even because we don't want to utterly ruin planets we were sent to save I don't think there is much ruining to be done when a city has already been flattened by artillery... Space wolves rarely operate alone in a war zone, they're just deployed where a crucial objective has to be achieved. In wars involving millions of soldiers, a hundred strong company (or maybe 200) isn't going to make much of a dent. They are force multipliers - they cripple enemy mobility, destroy headquarters, the sort of thing that makes it possible for the imperial guard to come in and crush any resistance. And where imperial guard is concerned, flattening a town or two isn't really a big thing. The only real reason for space wolves to be depoloyed by themselves is a stealth mission... and what good is a great big explosion going to do you if you're trying to avoid being found? Chapter Master is always been reguarded as a weak HQ anyways, he's exactly the same as a Captain, but with that special rule and more expensive. So if it's any compersion that should be done, it should be against a captain really. As for stealth missions, really? I always throught that, in fluff, a company can quite easily kill a entire army except if it's against a simlairly powerful foe (Chaos Marines when they stop failing and space bugs, anything else that could be on the ground can probably be dealt with by just a great company unless they have space superiouty). A company of space marines being deployed is just a single step under full on exterminatous so I imagine, assistance or not, they will destory whatever is down there. Though I doubt space wolves would turn down help anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215821-orbital-bombardment/#findComment-2573453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Void Master Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 I always throught that, in fluff, a company can quite easily kill a entire army except if it's against a simlairly powerful foe (Chaos Marines when they stop failing and space bugs, anything else that could be on the ground can probably be dealt with by just a great company unless they have space superiouty). It depends, really. Killing an entire army is really down to the size of said army I reckon. There is no way one company can take back an entire rebellious planet because there'd be rebel guardsmen in the billions if things are really bad. They probably could take them all out, but only bit by bit and certainly not in open battle. Taking them out would also require the destruction of power sources, cutting off water supplies, destroying bridges and so forth and all of those are things that marines can do better than guard because they are stealthy and because a marine is basically the fighting power of dozens of guardsmen packed into one armoure killing machine. What space marines simply cannot do, if you ask me, is for example hold a city all by themselves against waves of enemy attacks. A hundred and fifty men are just not enough, no matter how you cut it. They can hold a vital part of the city such as a bridge or a highway or there could be packs of wolves distributed along the line to prevent it from breaking in crucial locations, to provide rally points and to keep the morale up. They can also launch counter attacks to kill of groups of tanks and enemy leaders. Space marines are elites - you don't want to send them in all by themselves to win a big fight because even though they might actually win, they'll take a lot of casualties in the process. Elites are used in conjuction with the grunts to multiply your force - if the enemy is disorganised and confused, the grunts suddenly become an awful lot more effective and losing some of them isn't as bad as losing dozens of marines doing the same thing. Taking an entire planet by themselves could be possible, but it would take years to do and I don't think wolves have the luxury of committing an entire great company to a planet for years with the exclusion of everything else. The imperial guard is for those sorts of fights. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215821-orbital-bombardment/#findComment-2573855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 I think I'll just ask the guy who said it. Or they really shouldn't be quoting it.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215821-orbital-bombardment/#findComment-2573918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 I think I'll just ask the guy who said it. Or they really shouldn't be quoting it.... Well, I know for a fact that its in Warp Rift 11, pg. 13, though that is not where I origionally heard it. AHA! Its in Grey Hunter, by William King. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215821-orbital-bombardment/#findComment-2573954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 There we go! Thank you Grey Mage. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/215821-orbital-bombardment/#findComment-2574022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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