AOXES Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Hi there, it's been a while since I've posted. Hopefully, the rules-changes haven't been as drastic as when I left off the last time (DA 4E - SM 5E roundish). Here's an interesting Successor Deathwing concept-summary inspired by something I came across recently while doing some unrelated research...;) Also included are names for the First Company Terminator squads, along with proposals for said list. Note: While the squads have their 'weapon choice dispositions', they are there mostly for fluff purposes and loadouts may change during actual gameplay. e.g. I feel it is not viable in a Deathwing army to just kit out a squad only with melee weapons, especially at lower points, so I would not typically arm them as such in smaller games. I will discuss this in further detail later as I have some questions about this. :) ------ The Destroying Angels: A Dark Angels Successor Chapter Chapter Master: - Amanita Chapter Symbol: A mushroom cloud flanked by angel wings, which represent the 'destruction' aspect of the chapter and the wings represent the lineage of the Dark Angels. Chapter Cliff's Notes: - The Destroying Angels chapter was created as a 'crusading' chapter, akin to the Black Templars formation from the Imperial Fists. - As evidenced by their name, their primary and most publicised (for a Dark Angel) mission was simple: the utter and total destruction of Chaos forces. - They had a more sinister secondary mission, which was the destruction of evidence of the Fallen, along with the Fallen themselves, wherever they may be. - They have a Deathwing analogue, but lack a Ravenwing one. This is due to the Chapter's predilection for covert missions; after formation, the concept of the Ravenwing was denounced by the Chapter's Inner Circle as "too noisy" to hunt with. - They have a Second Company dubbed the Dapperling, comprising nothing but Veteran Scouts. They draw their name from the fact that these Scouts look dwarfed compared to the hulking Terminators that they frequently work with. These form a 'hunter cadre' akin to the Ravenwing of other successor chapters. Combat Doctrine The Destroying Angels favour the application of silent death, usually accomplished by infiltrating Scouts, covert missions and assassinations, followed by devastating precision teleportation strikes by Death Cap Terminators. This enables them to engage and destroy an enemy from behind their lines, sometimes before they realise they've been attacked. This is not unlike how certain species of poisonous fungi kill their victims. First Company: Death Cap Commanders (HQ Choices): - Phalloides, Master of the Death Cap - Arocheae, Interrogator-Chaplain of the Death Cap - Subjunquillea, Death Cap Company Librarian Terminator Squads (Troops/Elites): Death Cap Terminator squads are named after their current Sergeant Squad Ocreata, Command Squad The Command squad accompanies Master Phalloides into battle. They are typically equipped to be able to take on a variety of threats effectively. Usually, this comprises a mix of Storm Bolters/Power Fists, Thunder Hammers/Storm Shields and Cyclone Missile Launchers. - Brother Medusoid, Apothecary - Brother Mycelulem, Standard Bearer Squad Magnivelaris, Rosarium Squad Magnivelaris accompanies Interrogator-Chaplain Arocheae into battle; as a result they are typically armed with Lightning Claws and Heavy Flamers Squad Exitialis, Librarium Squad Exitialis is tasked with the support and protection of Librarian Subjunquillea, who is predisposed to ranged combat. They are usually armed with Storm Bolters and Assault Cannons. Squad Bisporigera, Tactical Squad Sergeant Bisporigera was formerly a Tactical marine. As such, he tends towards the concept of battlefield versatility, with his squad being equipped similarly to that of Squad Ocreata. Squad Verna, Assault Squad A former Assault marine, Sergeant Verna favours Assault Terminator loadouts, but is willing to accept a compromise with a Cyclone on one of his squad members' backs. Although sometimes called a fool by his fellow Death Cap Sergeants for entering battle with nary a ranged weapon in sight, they cannot deny his effectiveness once the fighting reaches the enemies line. Squad Virosa, Devastator Drawn from the ranks of the Chapter's most decorated Devastators, Sergeant Virosa is renowned for his ability to remain resolute even under heavy fire. He brings these qualities out in his squad, who are frequently armed with Storm Bolters and Assault Cannons. Grey Knight Terminator Detachment: Lethal Webcap While not part of the Destroying Angels or the Death Cap, this Grey Knight Terminator detachment has crossed paths peacefully often enough with the Death Cap on their crusades to be considered nominal allies. While Cortinarius and Phalloides still view each other with courteous suspicion, they both understand that at least some of their goals, the destruction of Chaos, to name one, do align, and that it is advantageous to have an ally while venturing far from Imperial space. - Brother-Captain Cortinarius - Brother Rubellus, Psycannon - Brother Orellanus, Incinerator ------ For painting. I was thinking predominantly White/Bone armour, with Green/Brown shoulder pads and weapon casings. Will post one using the SM Painter tomorrow. Another question about Wound Allocation and Torrent of Fire: Would it be better to arm my squads with different loadouts for each member, or to have a similar loadout for the 'Troopers'? i.e. A. SB+PW (Sergeant), SB+PF, TLC, TH+SS, AC+PF [5 Wound Sets in all] or, B. SB+PW, SB+PF (x3), AC+PF [3 Wound Sets in all]? From my understanding, it is possible to lose less troops from the same amount of wounds with Set A than with Set B. Am I right in this aspect? The concept does confuse me somewhat. However, which is better for Deathwing? Would Set B be more useful under any circumstances? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216111-dark-angels-successor-chapter-the-destroying-angels/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanhausen Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Quick thoughts: - Set A allows better wound allocation, though I'd go for the CF in the SB/PF terminator - DA still run a 4th ed codex and the game is in 5th edition. - Torrent of fire is no longer around - Set B would be more convenient for a squad that is intented to be in 30-60 cm range from the enemy, not engaging unless dire circunstances. - Was the unrelated research about micology? :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216111-dark-angels-successor-chapter-the-destroying-angels/#findComment-2576242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octavulg Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 - They have a Deathwing analogue, but lack a Ravenwing one. This is due to the Chapter's predilection for covert missions; after formation, the concept of the Ravenwing was denounced by the Chapter's Inner Circle as "too noisy" to hunt with. The Destroying Angels, a crusading Chapter, are prone to using sneakiness? - They have a Second Company dubbed the Dapperling, comprising nothing but Veteran Scouts. They draw their name from the fact that these Scouts look dwarfed compared to the hulking Terminators that they frequently work with. These form a 'hunter cadre' akin to the Ravenwing of other successor chapters. Honestly, I really don't like the Dapperling as a name. Dapper is not an adjective that associates well with Marines, in any case. The Destroying Angels favour the application of silent death, usually accomplished by infiltrating Scouts, covert missions and assassinations, followed by devastating precision teleportation strikes by Death Cap Terminators. This enables them to engage and destroy an enemy from behind their lines, sometimes before they realise they've been attacked. This is not unlike how certain species of poisonous fungi kill their victims. Mushrooms are not scary. Mushrooms are silly. Smurfs live in mushrooms. Don't name your formations after mushrooms. The word cap is also not necessarily a good choice, as it calls to mind the hats of small boys in Enid Blyton novels. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216111-dark-angels-successor-chapter-the-destroying-angels/#findComment-2576263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanhausen Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Octavulg, I disagree! The idea of a mushroom sneaking from behind and pouncing on you is the stuff that mightmares are made of! xDDDD Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216111-dark-angels-successor-chapter-the-destroying-angels/#findComment-2576275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Hail Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 At least it not a smurf succesor chapter then the c+c would be great.... All joking aside i like your ideas and hope to see more soon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216111-dark-angels-successor-chapter-the-destroying-angels/#findComment-2576653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOXES Posted December 1, 2010 Author Share Posted December 1, 2010 The Destroying Angels, a crusading Chapter, are prone to using sneakiness? Overall, good point there. :) What I meant when I said 'crusading', was in the fact that they would actively seek out and destroy Chaos, but that doesn't mean they could not be subtle about it at first. This would be due to their secondary mission: "Destruction of evidence". The initial stages of an assault would comprise the 1st and 2nd Company moving into position quietly, eliminating any Fallen before anyone knows what's going on. This would then be followed by the "actively publicised crusader"-archetype Battle Companies. Mushrooms are not scary. Mushrooms are silly. Smurfs live in mushrooms. SMurfs? But I always thought 40k and the Space Marines would be played by a fun guy. :D Don't name your formations after mushrooms. The word cap is also not necessarily a good choice, as it calls to mind the hats of small boys in Enid Blyton novels. Yeah. It's purely serendipitous inspiration. I just saw the words, "Angels" and "Death" in an article on Wikipedia and kinda thought, "Hey, this reminds me of Dark Angels and the Deathwing!" So I went from there. ;) @Tanhausen: Yes, the aforementioned article and unrelated research was about Mycology. ;) And I do think I've been misconstrued when I mentioned how poisonous fungi work. But your mental imagery is so much more awesome, I'm keeping it! :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216111-dark-angels-successor-chapter-the-destroying-angels/#findComment-2576899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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