Lord of Death Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 if i fire the assault cannon on a landraider at a tank, POMS allows me to fire one more weapon than normally permitted at another target, so can I fire the assault cannon at another target ?I Have checked the codex with some friends doesn`t say you can`t. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216624-poms-rules-check/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatman Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 I'm pretty sure you cannot fire the same weapon twice, so that one more weapon will have to be something different. But yes, that one other weapon can shoot a different target. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216624-poms-rules-check/#findComment-2583470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Death Posted December 7, 2010 Author Share Posted December 7, 2010 Indeed you canot normally fire any weapon twice but once more than normally permitted means once more if i want is this not the case Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216624-poms-rules-check/#findComment-2583481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan VK Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 A Land Raider can fire one more weapon than would normally be permitted. Codex: Space Marines, page 81 Assuming we are discussing C:SM and/or C:BA, PotMS allows a vehicle to fire one more weapon than it otherwise could, but does not say that it allows a weapon to be fired twice, which is explicitly forbidden in the BRB. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216624-poms-rules-check/#findComment-2583545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 There is a significant difference between firing an additional weapon, and firing a weapon an additional time. To put it in another context- theres a big difference between being able to drive a car twice as far, and being able to make two trips- namely, getting back home. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216624-poms-rules-check/#findComment-2583589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynnean Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 it is meant to be one more/additional weapon, not firing one twice Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216624-poms-rules-check/#findComment-2583725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Just more fuel to the fire: can't fire a single weapon twice in a Shooting phase, and POTMS doesn't say otherwise. It does allow you to fire one more weapon, though. Just not the same one. =) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216624-poms-rules-check/#findComment-2584027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Death Posted December 8, 2010 Author Share Posted December 8, 2010 it says can fire one more than normally permitted. if you can only fire it once witch i know and it does say one more than permitted because it doesnt say apart from the same weapon it is a loop hole however is a legal thing to do. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216624-poms-rules-check/#findComment-2584131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan VK Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 it says can fire one more than normally permitted. if you can only fire it once witch i know and it does say one more than permitted because it doesnt say apart from the same weapon it is a loop hole however is a legal thing to do. :P PotMS states the vehicle can fire one more weapon than would normally be permitted. It does not state the vehicle "can fire a weapon one more time than would normally be permitted." It says the Land Raider can fire one more weapon, not that a weapon can fire once more. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216624-poms-rules-check/#findComment-2584165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Dan has it right. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216624-poms-rules-check/#findComment-2584173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shatter Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 You're being blind to the line that read "subject to normal shooting rules." Stop doing that and the rules work fine. Otherwise, the LR could be shooting when off the table, in different player turns, phases, across the room and onto another player's game.. blahblahblah... but as the PotMS rule says it's subject to normal shooting rules, it can't do these things, including firing the same weapon twice which is most definitely stated as a no. Subject to something means the something is the boss. Like an Emperor and His subjects. If you ignore this, you'll lose your head. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216624-poms-rules-check/#findComment-2584177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techmarine Data007 Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Considering that there is the Stormlord, I think, with a special rule that allows it to fire a weapon twice, I would say that POTMS would have to say specifically. As it only says you get to fire one more weapon, I'm on the side of no. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/216624-poms-rules-check/#findComment-2584565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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