Justin2008 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 hey guys, here is my final version of my fluff for my head Librarian Chronus and Reclusiarch Erebos. CHRONUS BACKGROUND Chronus was just a common space marine progressing through his early stages, but with this was a secret. The secret was that he continuously heard voices, voices that sounded like the deadly chaos minds.... The only 1 to know of this secret was the chaplain Erebos. Erebos kept an eye on Chronus to ensure he did not turn to the chaos gods and ensnare the evilness within. All was going well, but Chronus seemed to be proving worrying for Erebos because Chronus seemed to be getting darker and darker, closing in on the temptation of chaos. However it was then, when the ship had crashed upon Elysium, when they had encountered the mighty Zeus. Seeing the image of their might primarch gave Chronus the willpower to suppress the chaos voices, and diminishes them to nothing but a mere memory. With the sight of hope and the high faith in the city of troy which gave Chronus the strength to fight on, he became 1 of the high council, and help command the Angels of Faith alongside Zeus. Winning countless battles, Chronus became the highest ranked and most powerful librarian in the Angel of Faith. EREBOS BACKGROUND Erebos was a chaplain of the Blood Angels, a warrior of many battle, but still in his earliest of days. He came across the forces of chaos time and time again, proving that he can diminish them. Because of these many victories, it enabled Erebos to help fellow brothers against the temptation of chaos. After the sudden crash onto the planet Elysium, Erebos came across the brothers Zeus and Chronus, where he guided the fellow brothers to ultimate success. It was he who helped train and guide Zeus upon the path of greatness, and thus allowed him to become Commander of the Angels of Faith. It was also his guidance in which helped Chronus fulfil his full potential, and become the ultimate librarian of the Angels of Faith. With his guidance and ability, he has become the highest ranking chaplain of the chapter, and thus allowed for no black rage to occur within the chapter. This was because he had developed a mental training in which no chaos could compete against. Also with the image of sanguineous from Zeus, it inspired Erebos to help cure the black rage which was experienced at the current time. It was from then on in which Erebos fended off all temptations of the black rage in all his battle brothers. This is a great success in itself, for many have suffered from the black rage and fallen victim to themselves. Enjoy Credit goes to both me and Gv0zD :D comments welcome Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/217128-librarian-chronus-and-reclusiarch-erebos-fluff/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitefireinferno Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 So you just Sue'd your chapter into red smurfs? So yeah a Neg -10 from me for making a cure out of nowhere to the Black Rage But yeah thats just my thoughts on the matter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/217128-librarian-chronus-and-reclusiarch-erebos-fluff/#findComment-2588986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gv0zD Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 Well, Lamenters are also officially 'cured' from the Black Rage, but they are not called the Red Smurfs. Besides, the were no Black Rage outbursts, however there's nothing said about the Red Thirst... Maybe the their inspiration is so high that sometimes it buffs the marines' abilities... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/217128-librarian-chronus-and-reclusiarch-erebos-fluff/#findComment-2588998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeraphimDeSanguinius Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 Well, Lamenters are also officially 'cured' from the Black Rage, but they are not called the Red Smurfs. Besides, the were no Black Rage outbursts, however there's nothing said about the Red Thirst... Maybe the their inspiration is so high that sometimes it buffs the marines' abilities... Don't do this much, but I'm going to point something out. The Lamenters OFFICIALLY DID NOT cure the Black Rage. They TECHNICALLY cured it. If you were to read the Imperial Armour Badab war part 1, which is canonical as far as Game-Workshop is concerned, the Lamenters own CHAPTER MASTER has the Black Rage, and even goes so far as to force other Lamenter marines into a fit of rage when he becomes injured. Also: If inspiration were enough to thwart the Thirst or the Rage entirely, Blood Angels as a whole would be free of both. As it stands, they are not. Another thing, it is RARE if at all possible for a marine with psychic potential to become a standard marine, as the testing and experimentation that is done to discover such potential borders on the cruel and unusual, I am unsure if this was your intent or if Chronus' backstory is just poorly written. And... It seems as though you think the Black Rage is something devised by Chaos? Or atleast that is how I read it from Erebos' background. I should point out that this is also not the case, and despite what people may argue about, the Red Thirst has time and time again been proven to be a genetic flaw in Blood Angels geneseed. All in all, I'm going to have to go with poorly written back stories guys, and while I applaud your effort, try to make it less "We are the bestest at everything." Even marines are fallible, whether current fluff allows us to believe it or not. I hope you will take this criticism as constructive, and not AS A PERSONAL AFFRONT TO YOUR HONOR! Whether you decide to keep your background or not, keep up the work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/217128-librarian-chronus-and-reclusiarch-erebos-fluff/#findComment-2589050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gv0zD Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 The Lamenters OFFICIALLY DID NOT cure the Black Rage. They TECHNICALLY cured it. If you were to read the Imperial Armour Badab war part 1, which is canonical as far as Game-Workshop is concerned, the Lamenters own CHAPTER MASTER has the Black Rage, and even goes so far as to force other Lamenter marines into a fit of rage when he becomes injured. I read IA vol. 9, (I should have mentioned that in my previous post). However there are some players, who do not see IA vol.9 fluff as 'official'. And it's their choice, after all. I personally label the fluff 'official' if it's contained in Codex or Rulebook, but at the same time I do like the Lamenters' background provided in IA vol.9 and I stick to it. As for the genetic origin of the Red Thirst and Black Rage... well, I personally stick to this version, but there are rumors mentioned in both C:BA and Index Astartes article, that those flaws are somehow influenced by warp (like Sanguinius' wings). Anyway, thanks for the comments. As I share some credit for this fluff, I'll take this critique into account. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/217128-librarian-chronus-and-reclusiarch-erebos-fluff/#findComment-2589062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeraphimDeSanguinius Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 The Lamenters OFFICIALLY DID NOT cure the Black Rage. They TECHNICALLY cured it. If you were to read the Imperial Armour Badab war part 1, which is canonical as far as Game-Workshop is concerned, the Lamenters own CHAPTER MASTER has the Black Rage, and even goes so far as to force other Lamenter marines into a fit of rage when he becomes injured. I read IA vol. 9, (I should have mentioned that in my previous post). However there are some players, who do not see IA vol.9 fluff as 'official'. And it's their choice, after all. I personally label the fluff 'official' if it's contained in Codex or Rulebook, but at the same time I do like the Lamenters' background provided in IA vol.9 and I stick to it. As for the genetic origin of the Red Thirst and Black Rage... well, I personally stick to this version, but there are rumors mentioned in both C:BA and Index Astartes article, that those flaws are somehow influenced by warp (like Sanguinius' wings). Anyway, thanks for the comments. As I share some credit for this fluff, I'll take this critique into account. As for the bit on whether or not IA 9 is official or not, I can agree that it is someones choice to read it or to believe it, but the fact stands that it is a piece of work released by Games-Workshop, more specifically Forge World a company owned by Games-Workshop, and as such all work related to a certain codex should be treated as just that. And for the warp taint, I haven't had the pleasure of reading the Index Astartes for the Blood Angels, but I am wondering: Does the rumor you speak of find itself in our current codex, or a previous one? In either case can you give me a page reference, it has been so long since I've read through the fluff in the book, I would probably have to read all of it to find the reference. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/217128-librarian-chronus-and-reclusiarch-erebos-fluff/#findComment-2589080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gv0zD Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 @ SeraphimDeSanguinius: I'll lookup for the pages in both previous and latest codices (don't have either by my side currently). The point is that it often stated that BA are slightly moving towards something bad (I'm not saying it's definitely a chaos possession, it speculates on BA lust for blood). If memory serves (it doesn't sometimes :huh: ) something about the 'bad things' was mentioned in Mephiston's background in latest Dex. I apologize in advance if I'm mistaken. As for the Index Astartes article, it was posted on GW site some time ago, but I'm not sure if it's still there. As for Forge World, I totally agree with you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/217128-librarian-chronus-and-reclusiarch-erebos-fluff/#findComment-2589084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeren Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 Yeah...the Librarian would have been discovered to be a psyker during his examinations and either put through those trials, or executed on the spot...the way you wrote his back story, I'm betting the examiners would have gone with the bullet to the face. The chaplain curing the black rage is a novel idea, but removes the core of who the Blood Angels are. It would be like saying "and lo, Pedro Kantor found a secret planet with tons of battle brothers that had a previous chapter master had put in stasis, woke them up, and huzzah, the Crimson Fists were back to full fighting force." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/217128-librarian-chronus-and-reclusiarch-erebos-fluff/#findComment-2589087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin2008 Posted December 14, 2010 Author Share Posted December 14, 2010 I would just like to say thankyou for your comments. However my marines still suffer from the red thirst (like you all said, thats what makes them the BA) For the point Erebos helps stop the black rage, is simply my way of saying whilst he is the leader of the council (cant remember the name right now) then the black rage is unheard of as anyone who has shown any signs of it, are immediately killed. This is to stop the break out of the black rage. 2nd of all, chronus could have gotten his psychic powers over the years, after all it is not written that no marine can pass a test which is mislead. if that was the case, then no legions would have turned to chaos, we would of known about it and so killed them blah blah blah. Point is, i understand your comments, and thankyou for taking the time to read them, however the black rage is unheard of to humans and marines as it has not occured yet. and Chronus got his powers over the years of being a marine. The red thirst still exists and always will, i erased the black rage idea as i hate the new death company unit entry in the codex, and so dont want them in my chapter. Maybe i can change the wording of a few parts, but the idea was not to implement that it did not exist at all, but was merely controlled by a council. I mean come on guys, seeing a space marine from your chapter turn into a raging maniac is the last thing ya want ya population to see. Least i can say the chapter is unique eyy lol Thanks :huh: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/217128-librarian-chronus-and-reclusiarch-erebos-fluff/#findComment-2589099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBMAKENZIE Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 Who is Zeus? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/217128-librarian-chronus-and-reclusiarch-erebos-fluff/#findComment-2589104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin2008 Posted December 14, 2010 Author Share Posted December 14, 2010 Who is Zeus? Zeus is my chapter master (dante unit entry) I shall be posting his story up here shortley, it was finished, but after making my chapter fluff story, i need to re-edit it a bit and then il post it. What did ya think of the fluff though BOBMAKENZIE? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/217128-librarian-chronus-and-reclusiarch-erebos-fluff/#findComment-2589112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBMAKENZIE Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 Who is Zeus? Zeus is my chapter master (dante unit entry) I shall be posting his story up here shortley, it was finished, but after making my chapter fluff story, i need to re-edit it a bit and then il post it. What did ya think of the fluff though BOBMAKENZIE? I found it difficult to follow without some minor introductions of all the Characters at the very least. In addition I think that it reads alitle like a encyclopedia. "this happens and then that happens and then this happened. Because of this guy." That is of course abit of hyperbole (HYPERBOWL YEAH!) but I personally think the key to the idea of 'fluff' is that its fluffy. Lets see some poetic license. Lets see some fantastical descriptions and minutia. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/217128-librarian-chronus-and-reclusiarch-erebos-fluff/#findComment-2589116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin2008 Posted December 14, 2010 Author Share Posted December 14, 2010 Iv just uploaded the chapter fluff if ya want to see that. Also i didnt want the background of each character to be too long as in the codex, they dont appear to be long, and i have many characters to do. Thanks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/217128-librarian-chronus-and-reclusiarch-erebos-fluff/#findComment-2589123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBMAKENZIE Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 Iv just uploaded the chapter fluff if ya want to see that. Also i didnt want the background of each character to be too long as in the codex, they dont appear to be long, and i have many characters to do. Thanks But you could just change around the way you've written it increasing your length only minorly while making it flow more naturally. By all outward appearences Chronus was just a common space marine progressing through his early career, but he infact had a deep personal secret. The secret was that he continuously heard voices, chittering howling voices that sounded like chaos itself... The only one to know of this secret was the chaplain Erebos. All throughout their careers Erebos kept an eye on Chronus to ensure he did not turn to the chaos gods and be for ever lost to the evil within him. All was going well, but increasingly Chronus worried Erebos because he seemed to begin to grow darker and darker, his soul itself becoming reclusive as it approached closer and closer to the forbidden void. You'll notice when you try and read it you're also getting alittle bit of pheonetic issues with the us and os on the end of the character's names they have a very similar quality and it wont sound quite as striking the more you speak or read it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/217128-librarian-chronus-and-reclusiarch-erebos-fluff/#findComment-2589126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin2008 Posted December 16, 2010 Author Share Posted December 16, 2010 This is really a basis of my fluff, As i write more characters fluff, eventually they will all link and change etc. This is my fluff for now, but in the future it will be revisited and edited. :blush: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/217128-librarian-chronus-and-reclusiarch-erebos-fluff/#findComment-2590781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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