Possible new HH novels? Let me hear your ideas...

[Bolt16]

A book on the Iron Warriors is definitely needed.....and I've heard rumours is forthcoming - maybe by McNeil

[Artein]

Novels that will come and are more or less confirmed:

Age of Darkness - anthology

The Outcast Dead - astropath + SM from traitor Legions on Terra, by Graham McNeill

Deliverance Lost - probably something about Raven Guard, by Gav Thorpe

::unknown title:: - World Eaters book, by Aaron Dembski-Bowden?

::unknown title:: - Blood Angels on Signus Prime, by James Swallow

::unknown title:: - Iron Warriors book, by Graham McNeill?

::unknown title:: - Calth (possibly 2 books)

::unknown title:: - last part of Dark Angels trilogy?

::unknown title:: - Night Lords book, by Aaron Dembski-Bowden?

[Yogi]

World Eaters, World Eaters, World Eaters!

 

Words for the Blood God

Sentences for the Skull Throne.

 

Ideally following Khârn, with Angron in plenty of scenes. Rembramancers used for blood rituals.. The slow descent form honour into savagery.. Perhaps the transition of a character before they get the implants to after.

 

Laughter and Slaughter in equal measure.

[Imperialis_Dominatus]

So who here thinks Sigismund fits as the one who killed Khârn? That would be a tale of two badasses, for sure.

[Guillermus of Eisenheim]

Sigismund killing Khârn would be awesome. SOMEONE has to! :o And I agree with Yogi, World Eaters book should be from Khârn's perspective so we see plenty of Angron, and ideally finish at the Eternity Gate. However, that might not be possible unless the book was published miles down the line, because we're nowhere near Terra yet. We haven't got further than Calth, IIRC. As for an author, Abnett could do the World Eaters pretty well.

[Marshal Rohr]

Sigismund did kill Khârn.

[Guillermus of Eisenheim]

Fair enough. Wouldn't mind seeing the fight between them then. And the Imperial Fists as a whole, we've barely seen them so far.

[Marshal Rohr]

Only if A D-B does it. Dan's good but after Prospero Burns Im afraid I'll have to keep a dictionary on hand to figure out all the obscure cultural references. McNeill needs to stay the hell away from anything to do with my beloved Legion or Chapter.

 

I'd kill to see what the dialogue between Khârn and Sigismund would be like if A D-B writes it.

[Ashur]

Although it sounds improbable, I would like a book about reactions to the heresy from a mere mortal perspective.

 

How are the imperial citizens reacting to the news of civil war ?

Who join Horus and why, who remain loyal and why, what about planets trying to recover their independence from the emperor?

What about the xenos, specially people like Eldrad who knew about the heresy before the astartes?

The return of the Interex would be great.

 

This would be a way to get away from the astartes for a moment and to describe the scale of the catastrophe that the heresy was.

[Imperialis_Dominatus]

Sigismund did kill Khârn.

 

It makes sense given the story in the Emperor's Champion Chapter Approved article but I've never seen anything with Khârn's name stamped on it saying so.

[A D-B]

I'd kill to see what the dialogue between Khârn and Sigismund would be like... (snip)

 

I have some ideas for that, which I'd like to see in action sooner rather than later. We're a long way from the Siege of Terra, but the duel something I'm working on a dastardly plan for.

 

In some ways, though, it's a bit of a shame. The Astartes are going to be utterly eclipsed by the primarchs present at the time. If I put a scene into a novel where Rogal Dorn makes Sigismund the Emperor's Champion, and gives him the quest to hunt Chaos Champions, a lot of readers not up to speed with Black Templar lore are going to struggle to understand why this one Space Marine is considered so badass, when Jaghatai Khan, Dorn and Sanguinius are still present. Why are they not the Emperor's Champions? And why do they not seek out Chaos Champions? It's not like Sigismund can stand against a Greater Daemon or the Traitor Primarchs, so - narratively speaking - is he even a good, realistic choice?

 

But then, I have an idea for how to present that, too, in a way that's core to the Templars.

 

Suffice to say, I hope I get to write that stuff.

[Legatus]

Wait, who killed the what now? Khârn cannot be killed in a duell, because Khârn is the baddest badass there is! B) He would have been "killed" by an overwhelming mass of loyal astartes all trying to take him down, and I imagine the Berserkers then found him on a huge mountain of dead loyalist Marines.

[Pulse]

I'd kill to see what the dialogue between Khârn and Sigismund would be like... (snip)

 

I have some ideas for that, which I'd like to see in action sooner rather than later. We're a long way from the Siege of Terra, but the duel something I'm working on a dastardly plan for.

Woooohoooo!

 

@Legatus - pipe down fan boy, lol! B)

[Yogi]

Agree with Legatus. I was also under the impression Khârn was killed via attrition, rather then bested in some duel. What is the sigismund victory over Khârn source?

 

Would be more epic as a duel though.

 

ADB with absolutely no power vested in me I grant you leave of all current projects to write said book.

[Clewz]

might be more interesting if it was some random lucky shot off a guardsman

[Chapter Master Ignis Domus]

Or it could be the same guardsman who dressed up as a custode and went aboard Horus' Battle Barge. Maybe they'll also make him back into a guardsman.

[malika666]

I just hope that if they will do the World Eaters novel, that it won't be from Khârn's point of view. Yes, we will get to know a lot more about Khârn and his Primarch, but it shouldn't be taken from his point of view. Maybe from one of the newer captains or a new marine or something.

 

I'd also love to see some Imperial Army books, maybe something to shed light on how the Commissariat was formed or something...

[Pulse]

might be more interesting if it was some random lucky shot off a guardsman

How would that be interesting compared to a real duel? Especially when two of the greatest Astartes square off. B)

[Marshal Rohr]

I'd kill to see what the dialogue between Khârn and Sigismund would be like... (snip)

 

I have some ideas for that, which I'd like to see in action sooner rather than later. We're a long way from the Siege of Terra, but the duel something I'm working on a dastardly plan for.

 

In some ways, though, it's a bit of a shame. The Astartes are going to be utterly eclipsed by the primarchs present at the time. If I put a scene into a novel where Rogal Dorn makes Sigismund the Emperor's Champion, and gives him the quest to hunt Chaos Champions, a lot of readers not up to speed with Black Templar lore are going to struggle to understand why this one Space Marine is considered so badass, when Jaghatai Khan, Dorn and Sanguinius are still present. Why are they not the Emperor's Champions? And why do they not seek out Chaos Champions? It's not like Sigismund can stand against a Greater Daemon or the Traitor Primarchs, so - narratively speaking - is he even a good, realistic choice?

 

But then, I have an idea for how to present that, too, in a way that's core to the Templars.

 

Suffice to say, I hope I get to write that stuff.

 

A short story maybe? In the next anthology?

 

 

As a side note:

I've always thought it would have been cool if Sigismund and Khârn knew each other before hand, since both had been with the Legions before the Primarchs were found. Like if they had been recruited on Terra at the same time and place.

[malika666]

But is Khârn a Terran? I always assumed he was from somewhere else, I might be totally wrong though!

[Marshal Rohr]

Wouldn't it be cool if he was?

 

Thats all Im saying...

 

Like if Sigismund was from one tribe/city/place and Khârn was from the next town over. They get selected to be marines together early in the Crusade and do Marine Boot Camp together, then when it comes time to get the geneseed they go their separate ways. Only to meet again on Terra, in front of the palace, both Champions of their Lords. Cliche? Of course. But it wouldnt be cliche if enough people didnt like it enough to keep putting it in stories.

[Pulse]

Sounds good to me, apart from when you said "marine boot camp" i actually rolled my eyes. :P

[Marshal Rohr]

True, I didnt think of that...

 

Marine InDoc Facilities?

[Yogi]

I just hope that if they will do the World Eaters novel, that it won't be from Khârn's point of view. Yes, we will get to know a lot more about Khârn and his Primarch, but it shouldn't be taken from his point of view. Maybe from one of the newer captains or a new marine or something.

 

I'd also love to see some Imperial Army books, maybe something to shed light on how the Commissariat was formed or something...

 

Why would you want it to be from another marine? Another marine would be cool and all but Khârn would be better. He's not a nutter before the heresy you know.

[malika666]

But why would it be better? What we see in the Horus Heresy novels so far is that they generally aren't written from the point of view of the Primarchs or existing special characters (Abbadon, Khârn, Lucius, Typhus, etc). They tend to come from rather younger or a little bit out of place characters (Loken, Saul Tarvitz, Garro, rememberancers). This creates a little bit of distance, but at the same time makes it easier for the reader to get introduced into that faction/story/etc. The reader can sort of identify themselves with the character. If I'm not mistaken they already did a story from the point of view of Khârn in Tales of Heresy right?

 

Wait...maybe it could be an idea, but it would have to be before Khârn becomes this total nut, otherwise the entire book become likes most BL novels: "look, he is a space marine, so awesomeness, hack, slash [insert 20 page battle scene], super duper unique, slash, shoot". In other words...very boring...