Dosjetka Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Hello fellow Liberte! I was just wondering if anyone can tell (approx.) how many known Chapters practice "death worship" (I'm not sure if it's the correct term) and if it's a very wide-spread thing here on this forum in DIY Chapters. Any help is appreciated :) Ludovic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/217608-quick-question-about-death-worship/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightrawenII Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Answer with questions: Death worship as the reverance of the dead? - I think there is only one, the DIY Torchbearers. Death worship as the eating of the dead? - hmm, some of the official Chapters do this. From the DIY, I think the Ecritter's Golden Dragons, the aforementioned Torchbearers and some others I don't remember. Death worship as the killing and maiming in the Emperor's name? - Every, single one. Death worship as the dying with weapon in hand, screaming in defiance at their slayer? - Every, single one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/217608-quick-question-about-death-worship/#findComment-2595188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrata Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 There are a couple of chapters that are associated with death. The Mortificators are probably the best known, being a successor chapter of the Ultramarines that have fallen far away from the oak tree. They appear in one of the Ultramarine novels, but I wouldn't overly suggest reading them (personal opinion). There is also the Doom Eagles I believe who have a obsession with death. Well, it is less an obsession of death but more a total belief that they are already dead. Again, another Ultramarines successor chapter - something must be making second founding successor go all death crazy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/217608-quick-question-about-death-worship/#findComment-2595248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
soddinnutter Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Depennds on how you define Death Cult. It's not a uniform thing. Rainbow Warriors are rumored to be and this has made them come to blows with the Imperial Church in a 'hide the bodies under the rug if the Inquisition look this way' style conflict. Mortificators are probably Extremists. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/217608-quick-question-about-death-worship/#findComment-2595511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted December 21, 2010 Author Share Posted December 21, 2010 I was thinking more worshipping Death as a deity (maybe the Emperor = Grim Reaper?) is it possible? But cheers for all of your replies, it's given me some great ideas for some Chapter beliefs :P Ludovic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/217608-quick-question-about-death-worship/#findComment-2595593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrata Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 I think any chapter that has a deity other than the Emperor is going to find himself on the wrong side of a Imperial gun. Even some chapters that have said their worship something that is an aspect of the Emperor have also been burnt (can't think of their name right now, but one chapter worshipped the big E as an animal and the good people of the =][= did not like that). However, I can see them getting on board with the big E being death. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/217608-quick-question-about-death-worship/#findComment-2595609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted December 21, 2010 Author Share Posted December 21, 2010 The Chapter was the Steel Cobras, I think. Ok, I'll give it some thought and I'll maybe include something in my upcoming IA... cheers Ferrata! Ludovic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/217608-quick-question-about-death-worship/#findComment-2595627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mordray Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 @Ferrata: Actually if I recall correctly it wasn't the Inquisition it was the Imperial Cult that took out the chapter... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/217608-quick-question-about-death-worship/#findComment-2597644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine_Breaker Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 @Ferrata: Actually if I recall correctly it wasn't the Inquisition it was the Imperial Cult that took out the chapter... The Ecclesiarchy. But yeah, you're right that it was not the Inquisition. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/217608-quick-question-about-death-worship/#findComment-2597656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted December 24, 2010 Author Share Posted December 24, 2010 So the =I= aren't so fussy about the different ways that the Chapters worship/venerate the Emperor, as long as it's the Emperor they venerate and not some other God/entity (but they won't let it go too far either) and it's more the Ecclesiarchy who will go and purge the Chapter (they do have the backing of the SoB so it is possible) if they hear about any deviancy... but then if the Chapter fight back, would the =I= intervene? If so, I guess that they could be on any of the two sides... And war could start and it would be quite messy for both sides... Urgh, this is complicated. Ludovic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/217608-quick-question-about-death-worship/#findComment-2597804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrata Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 My bad, miss remembering information - sign of old age. The politics of the Imperium are very confusing, you have a number of highly powerful units (=][=, Astartes, The Church, AM, even the Guard under a serious commander). They are all trying to get their version of the Imperium to number one and themselves at the same time. Many here would argue that the Astartes don't want to be number one and are just tools of the Emperor's Justice, but at the same time they don't want anyone telling them what to do. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/217608-quick-question-about-death-worship/#findComment-2597838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightrawenII Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 ... and it's more the Ecclesiarchy who will go and purge the Chapter (they do have the backing of the SoB so it is possible) if they hear about any deviancy... No, the *general* consensus is that the priesthood will no poke their noses into Chapter's Cults. This agreement is here to prevent an unnecessary Wars of Faith and the like. Of course, sometimes individuals conveniently forget this rule and things gets messy.... the Steel Cobras are example of this. So the =I= aren't so fussy about the different ways that the Chapters worship/venerate the Emperor, as long as it's the Emperor they venerate and not some other God/entity (but they won't let it go too far either)... Not exactly, the Sons of Malice were excommunicated because Hereticus Inquisitor(ix??) was displeased with their victory-celebration. (The same thing the Mortifactors are doing on regular basis, go figure. :P ) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/217608-quick-question-about-death-worship/#findComment-2597859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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