Demoulius Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 hey guys, ive been wondering: has anyone ever made nurlge bikers? tried the search engine but got about 60 pages with either nurgle or bikers in it, never the combo (stopped looking after a few pages) if i make this unit its only for apocalypse (because of the pointcost of the unit) but it seems like a fun project to me <_< aside from the fact that this unit would be HIDIOUSLY expensive i could see it as a very powerfull close combat unit. toughness 6 is hard to crack with strength 4 (most standard attacks) whilst every model has 2 attacks. added mobility also adds protection as turbo boosting grants that important cover save incase they send AT-firepower their way. would this unit be viable if point cost werent a concern? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218093-nurgle-bikers/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
breng77 Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 They could be if points were not an option. T 6 bikes are quite difficult to kill. Though looking at them always makes me wish you could get plague marines on bikes, FNP and T6 would be golden. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218093-nurgle-bikers/#findComment-2600982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 apo weapons are not sttr 4 standard and for the cost they have chaos bikers die too fast both in hth[TH and fists dont care about t4(6), ] and dont have enough special weapons or support in form of attack vbikes to make them semi viable shoty units. And even if in apo they score it is better to take loyalist bikers anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218093-nurgle-bikers/#findComment-2600986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverike_prime Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 I've done a couple games with Nurgle bikers. IN anything smaller then 3,000 points they're simply too expensive for their purpose relative to what you have to sacrifice to have them. at 4,000 they're nice option, but can still be a bit expensive for what you get. At 5,000 everything goes. T6 marines with 3 meltas that can turbo boost, move 12" and pop a pesky tank are very nice. Plus being toughness 6 they tend to stick around unless your opponent lobs krak, Plasma or Space Marine Power fists at you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218093-nurgle-bikers/#findComment-2601010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 I've used Nurgle bikers many times and what they do best is draw fire. And nothing else, but for that purpose they do draw fire rather well - the big problem is they cost too much to really shine in that role. A (2nd?) Daemon Prince with wings does the same, cheaper. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218093-nurgle-bikers/#findComment-2601124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevak Dal Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 This may be related, but I am unclear about the whole toughness 5(4)/6(4) bit. My understanding is that the 4 is used when calculating instant death. If thats the case, what's the point in buying an upgrade that only raises the toughness to combat "small arms" fire? It seems like the only useful marks is chaos is Slannesh (faster than the average marine at all times) or Khorne. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218093-nurgle-bikers/#findComment-2601323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
breng77 Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 Well the toughness combats all kinds of things. Consider that most units in the game are Strength 3 or 4. That means that against Toughness 5 they will wound on a 5+ or 6+ in close combat. T 5 also helps against weapons up through strength 6 (they wound less often). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218093-nurgle-bikers/#findComment-2601342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 Well the toughness combats all kinds of things. Consider that most units in the game are Strength 3 or 4. That means that against Toughness 5 they will wound on a 5+ or 6+ in close combat. T 5 also helps against weapons up through strength 6 (they wound less often).This, the only reason for the IoN is to reduce casualties from small arms, but it still doesn't help against heavy/special (e.g. plasma) weapons - at an exorbitant price too, personally I'd rather have more models on the table. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218093-nurgle-bikers/#findComment-2601361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
breng77 Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 I agree, I am not really a fan of taking ICOns on any standard troops, if I am going to I would rather take the Cult troops, for Independent characters or Daemon princes, MON can be useful. In that instance I think Khorne is probably the worst mark (only any good on Lords, as Psychic powers are better than +1 attack on Daemon Princes) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218093-nurgle-bikers/#findComment-2601365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Torch. Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 I tried Google and found these pictures theres some good ones in there. I think I may have been inspired. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218093-nurgle-bikers/#findComment-2601438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demoulius Posted December 29, 2010 Author Share Posted December 29, 2010 hmm nurgly bits ;) yea some of those conversions look pretty much what i got in mind. marines that have grown inside their bikes (or have stuff growing on them that fuses with the bikes) the squad will be made mostly for laughs and giggles, just checking if anyone actually used this....because come on, 33 points without any upgrades at all? :) wth was GW thinking? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218093-nurgle-bikers/#findComment-2601528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Delias Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 My army is what would amount to a full chapter of all heretics... One company, lead by the Lord Kala-Azar, is a nurgle "rapid strike" force, meaning the ones that are NOT on bikes, are in rhinos... a VERY expensive force, but well worth it for that oh S*** factor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218093-nurgle-bikers/#findComment-2601659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demoulius Posted December 29, 2010 Author Share Posted December 29, 2010 got any pictures of that? :wub: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218093-nurgle-bikers/#findComment-2601700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother RedAxe Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 I use them in varying unit size depending on points. They make a great drop point for deep striking oblits or a cc squad of termies. In more than one game they have tied up a heavy weapon squad or an enemy psy and let the termies come in when they are ready to tera up any units left in the enemy back field. Haven't tried them to summon demons yet as from wht i hear demon bombing doesn't work like it used to, but my termie bombs work quite well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218093-nurgle-bikers/#findComment-2601857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Delias Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 got any pictures of that? <_< unfortunately no... worse still I have to rebuild my forces after all of it got lost in storage by my ex. Kinda angry about it because my three favorite conversions were in there( Kala-Azar himself, a custom built loota, and an IG a daemon prince might have second thoughts about taking on(modellingwise)). Though be sure to keep an eye out, as I get the "chapter" rebuilt, there will be pictures of each company(as well as the full chapter once complete). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218093-nurgle-bikers/#findComment-2603336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demoulius Posted January 4, 2011 Author Share Posted January 4, 2011 wha wha? dont you mean full company? ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218093-nurgle-bikers/#findComment-2606487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Delias Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 no no... I do mean chapter 1st company: Undivided led by Dalfurion, the oathsworn(undivided DP) 2nd company: Slannesh led by Avarice(lord with IoS, wings, and daemon weapon 3rd company: Nurgle led by Kala-Azar(lord with IoN, daemon weapon and bike) 4th company: Tzeentch led by Bellacanth(Sorcerer Lord with IoT and Disk of Tzeentch) 5th company: Khorne led by Ashrath(Lord with IoK, terminator armor, and IoK) 6th company: Undivided led by Caramon(Sorcerer Lord) 7th company: Khorne led by Kelthet(Lord with IoK) 8th company: Slannesh led by Judas(Lord with IoS) 9th company: Tzeentch led by Metrion(Lord with IoT) 10th company: Nurgle led by Samar(Sorcerer Lord with IoN) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218093-nurgle-bikers/#findComment-2606858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demoulius Posted January 7, 2011 Author Share Posted January 7, 2011 (lord with IoN, daemon weapon and bike) :teehee: thought of that combo as well. against T4 or lower its basicly a pair of LC's on crack <_< Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218093-nurgle-bikers/#findComment-2610058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Delias Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 almost... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218093-nurgle-bikers/#findComment-2610135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demoulius Posted January 8, 2011 Author Share Posted January 8, 2011 against T4 or lower it has the same properties as an LC, namely rerolling to wounds due to the poisened property of the deamon weapon :wub: a LC that adds 2-6 attacks ^_^ just dont roll a 1 and your set to cause some havoc :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218093-nurgle-bikers/#findComment-2610701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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