Master Of Malfeasance X Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 I'm sure this has been done to death, but I was playing a fellow today who said that GTs and the big tournaments were ruling that the kustom force field worked from inside a vehicle. This is potentially game changing as the same logic could be applied to psychic hoods, sanguinary priests, the sanguinor, pedro kantor, etc, etc. Is there some logic I can throw at this guy to shut him up? He, like everyone in favor of shameless abuse of this concept, always falls back on the dumbest rule in 40k: if a distance needs to be worked out to the squad in a vehicle or somesuch, then it is measure from the hull of the vehicle. Anyone have a definitive answer on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Chaos Icons work from inside vehicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellios Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 I'm sure this has been done to death, but I was playing a fellow today who said that GTs and the big tournaments were ruling that the kustom force field worked from inside a vehicle. This is potentially game changing as the same logic could be applied to psychic hoods, sanguinary priests, the sanguinor, pedro kantor, etc, etc. Is there some logic I can throw at this guy to shut him up? He, like everyone in favor of shameless abuse of this concept, always falls back on the dumbest rule in 40k: if a distance needs to be worked out to the squad in a vehicle or somesuch, then it is measure from the hull of the vehicle. Anyone have a definitive answer on this? That is how it works. It isn't shameless abuse it is just that 40ks rules are overly simplistic if you want realism. If I have a forcefield generator then why shouldn't it work because I'm in a vehicle? As the mek isn't in a specific place the simple thing to do is just give the bonus to the vehicle (which yes can extend the bubble). Some things might not make sense when in a vehicle but again this is to keep the rules simple rather than saying X works while Y won't when both do the same thing but by different means (in the background). So man-up deal with it and if you are able to with your list take advantage of it yourself... It isn't abuse unless he has made a custom battlewagon in a funkey shape to give a huge field of coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBMAKENZIE Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 I agree with the above. And none of your examples are good examples of why it shouldnt work that way. Pedro/Sanguinor are just as insipring a leader to their troops inside a transport moving to close on an enemy as not. The warp is everywhere even within Vehicles so why would psychic hoods stop working? As for Priests think of it abit like an ambulance. The wounded can get to the vehicle and theres the priest hunkered down over a table sawing bones and applying leeches or what have. The real question you should be asking yourself is why a magic cup = feel no pain in regards to priests. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty the Pyro Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 yes, the rules say they work out of a vehicle. The same rules also say they work into a vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awfulawful Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 The real question you should be asking yourself is why a magic cup = feel no pain in regards to priests. :D The cup has booze in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 The real question you should be asking yourself is why a magic cup = feel no pain in regards to priests. :D The cup has booze in it. Then why don't all Space Wolves units have FNP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Sasha Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Except for Tyranids! Shadow in the Warp, Psychic scream and Doom of Malantai's Spirit Leech have all been FAQ'ed as NOT affecting units embarked on vehicles; even open topped ones! To the Doom, an Ork truck looks like an open salad bar, but nooooo..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBMAKENZIE Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 The real question you should be asking yourself is why a magic cup = feel no pain in regards to priests. :lol: The cup has booze in it. Then why don't all Space Wolves units have FNP? Cause theirs has ale and ours has hard spirits. :lol: Turns out all those powers are lightning based, they just arch to the tank and miss the guys inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 If the players need to measure a range involving the embarked unit (except for its shooting), this range is measured to or from the vehicle's hull. Seems straightforward to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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