obs0l3te Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 FAKE Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218694-some-rumours-regarding-40k/page/2/#findComment-2607982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epic Thoughts Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 I'm sorry, but any mentioning of Omegon just makes me smile in disbelief. And, of course Russ is alive. The man said he's coming back. Russ doesn't say something then not carry through. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218694-some-rumours-regarding-40k/page/2/#findComment-2608003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wysten Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 I think many of these facts are stirring of the pot. For the record, while Matt Ward is not good at writing fluff, he's definately good at writing rules. I like both of the marine codexes he has wrote from a rules perspective. Blood Angels and Space Marines are two of the most flexable and interesting codexes of all, along with space wolves of course. I could imagine the Emperior finally dying, considering the latest fluff about the failings of the device, it sounds perfectly natural that the emperior himself will actually die. Gullieman dying however sounds a bit random, though it finally gives the Alpha Legion a open action, it just seems strange that the Ultramarines would suddenly break all protocall. Their rigidness to the codex is what made them unique in a wierd sense, so suddenly dumping all that does sound wierd on paper. Though considering if their hot shot of second company takes the helm and they could pull off that change naturally enough, it's believeable. Just... Seriously, there are a lot of marine codexes out there already, I don't see how another marine codex in the fold will make the Ultras stand out. Russ being stated outright alive... Is strange, I am one of the opinon he has passed on, but is so spirited that he hunts in the warp and subtly influnences and that eventrally, as the spirits of the previous space wolves join with his can create such a influence that he does return beyond the supernatural. Either way, it would be interesting. Overall, some of the stuff sounds plausiable enough, though thats not including the fact that the convo is breaking secercy, which could result in heavy levys, plus the format of much of the interview was crude in exicution. This inclines the interview to be digested with mead and a pile of salt. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218694-some-rumours-regarding-40k/page/2/#findComment-2608004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lords2001 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 This rumour is like the fail boat hitting the fail whale. It is either a creative writing of a wishlist or trolling. This reminds me of the original SM Codex rumours, where the non appearing Tu'Shan had 4 wounds, hit harder than abaddon and Khârn combined etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218694-some-rumours-regarding-40k/page/2/#findComment-2608010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexington Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 As I said in another thread, the ramblings about Ward alone discredit this as nothing but fan-trolling. I have very few good things to say about Ward and his work, but the commonly-accepted idea that he's some frothing Ultramarine fanboy whose work was published without any editorial constraints is ridiculous. Yes, he raved about how the Ultramarines were the most awesome and bestest Chapter evar in some White Dwarf interview, but it's not like this is the New York Times publishing an in-depth look at the mind of some public intellectual - it's a company using its in-house monthly magazine to promote its products. If Matt Ward talks about how great the Ultramarines are, it is because Games Workshop thinks it will help sell Space Marine miniatures. I roll my eyes at the community's willingness to uncritically buy into these sorts of shenanigans, but clearly it works well, else this shyster wouldn't be able to leverage these fantasies in order to sell their own particular brand of snake-oil. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218694-some-rumours-regarding-40k/page/2/#findComment-2608023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki-LaughingDeath Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Okay, let's take a walk down memory lane... mine might be a little bit faulty so don't put too much faith in it. At one of the Baltimore Game Days was there or was there not a Space Wolves table set up that featured a fight between the Wolves and Tyranids who were attempting to capture Leman Russ our lost Primarch? Think it was about 2002 or so... Then there were other SIMILAR events involving the Primarchs who were listed as MIA.... Wasn't there all the fluff about how despite the fact that Fulgrim for all intents and purposes decapitated Robute Gillman at the end of the Heresy and how he is healing while in a stasis chamber because he was a primarch? I won't even bother with Cypher, despite the fact he is still cool. I would like to point out that in the US 40K is GW's golden calf, do you really think they are going to sacrifice it for that much change? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218694-some-rumours-regarding-40k/page/2/#findComment-2608044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexington Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 At one of the Baltimore Game Days was there or was there not a Space Wolves table set up that featured a fight between the Wolves and Tyranids who were attempting to capture Leman Russ our lost Primarch? Think it was about 2002 or so... Yep! 2001, in fact (only year I attended Baltimore). I remember standing in the middle of the convention hall as the loudspeakers announced this bit of weirdness. A friend and I exchanged bewildered looks before we both broke out laughing like madmen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218694-some-rumours-regarding-40k/page/2/#findComment-2608052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
esinhorn Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 For the record, I know full well several of those "facts" are outright lies, so my money's on this being some hardcore trolling. The way the source describes C.S. Goto's employment is categorically not how it works. Several, but not all? What did this wacka loon hit on that was infact true. I hope it is the fall of Ultramar,I like that storyline the AL school the hell out of them because they have a copy of the codex too. Which would make the Ultra's need to be more like the AL to survive. But even if this was true when do we learn of it,in ten years when they get around to rewriting the rulebook again By then I'll kick the chair's plug out of the wall myself. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218694-some-rumours-regarding-40k/page/2/#findComment-2608164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Several, but not all?What did this wacka loon hit on that was infact true. I hope it is the fall of Ultramar,I like that storyline the AL school the hell out of them because they have a copy of the codex too. Which would make the Ultra's need to be more like the AL to survive. But even if this was true when do we learn of it,in ten years when they get around to rewriting the rulebook again By then I'll kick the chair's plug out of the wall myself. I more think he means that he knows several are utter crud, and stronglt suspects the others of being utter crud too. As he says, it's just someone with way, way too much time on their hands trolling. There's no way that those changes would be made. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218694-some-rumours-regarding-40k/page/2/#findComment-2608199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfire Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Utter nonsense, that's simply too many sweeping changes to the fabric of the 40k universe to be true. I couldn't even be bothered to read past the 10th question or so. I guess I'm saying that I'll belive it when I see it. And even if I do, if it's BL crap I'll likely disregard it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218694-some-rumours-regarding-40k/page/2/#findComment-2608223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormbrow II Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 This has already popped up on Heresy Online and was dismissed as fanwank. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218694-some-rumours-regarding-40k/page/2/#findComment-2608273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 All is fake eg latest WD: fluff in the 40k universe is set and will not change much. (something among those lines.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218694-some-rumours-regarding-40k/page/2/#findComment-2608280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 For the record, I know full well several of those "facts" are outright lies, so my money's on this being some hardcore trolling. The way the source describes C.S. Goto's employment is categorically not how it works. I already figured from the writing style- its far to much like some guy talkin to himself. But this, this is the nail in the coffin for me. As for anyone wanting to know if Russ is alive or not- read some of the old EOT fluff about the strange figure, in rags and hood, a giant, leading the 13nth through the warp.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218694-some-rumours-regarding-40k/page/2/#findComment-2608281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmk17 Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 This does reek of fanboi. With A-D-B calling shenanigans, I someone needs to get a broom. Can a mod execute an exterminatus on this thread? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218694-some-rumours-regarding-40k/page/2/#findComment-2608289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I hope it is the fall of Ultramar,I like that storyline the AL school the hell out of them because they have a copy of the codex too.Which would make the Ultra's need to be more like the AL to survive. It doesn't even make sense that the Ultramarines would have to break the Codex to survive. Seriously, what does that even mean? So because their homeworld and Primarch has been destroyed, they all of a sudden can't operate as normal Space Marines and have to change their method of war? Why? It's likely just an Ultra-hater wish rather than anything substantial. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218694-some-rumours-regarding-40k/page/2/#findComment-2608299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Scourge Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Ignoring the fact that this is all just some dude having fun with people on a message board the Ultramarine thing would be a classic 'Change or Die' story. Not exactly unheard of and it has just the right level of irony to strike some as a good idea. Btw I work for GW's super secret elite story crafting unit and we're working on something very similar to this. Within the next two years we'll be dropping a bomb. Thats right folks, Ultramar will be invaded by Squats and the Ultramarines will be utterly wiped out. Rainbow Warriors take up their rightful place as the premiere Space Marine Chapter. GW sales will go through the roof. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218694-some-rumours-regarding-40k/page/2/#findComment-2608317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Btw I work for GW's super secret elite story crafting unit... I work for the Games Workshop Secret PoliceTM and... You. Are. Busted! :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218694-some-rumours-regarding-40k/page/2/#findComment-2608400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durfast Spiritwolf Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Btw I work for GW's super secret elite story crafting unit... I work for the Games Workshop Secret PoliceTM and... You. Are. Busted! :lol: Not sooo secret then if you can tell people ;) I remember when we ran into a US Secret Service chappie wearing a badge with his name and 'Secret Service' underneath. Poor guy took some stick that day :wallbash: :pinch: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218694-some-rumours-regarding-40k/page/2/#findComment-2608492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfpack Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Rainbow warriors??...ok sounds a lil fruity to me...LMAO so call me politically incorrect...FOTC...squats wiping out ultrasmurfs...that would be a good story line...ROTF...oh crap my sides hurt... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218694-some-rumours-regarding-40k/page/2/#findComment-2608515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Btw I work for GW's super secret elite story crafting unit... I work for the Games Workshop Secret PoliceTM and... You. Are. Busted! ;) Not sooo secret then if you can tell people ;) I.. I.. I have no idea what you're talking about ;) :) :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218694-some-rumours-regarding-40k/page/2/#findComment-2608524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I hope it is the fall of Ultramar,I like that storyline the AL school the hell out of them because they have a copy of the codex too.Which would make the Ultra's need to be more like the AL to survive. It doesn't even make sense that the Ultramarines would have to break the Codex to survive. Seriously, what does that even mean? So because their homeworld and Primarch has been destroyed, they all of a sudden can't operate as normal Space Marines and have to change their method of war? Why? It's likely just an Ultra-hater wish rather than anything substantial. I could see it though- cut off from any supply base or recruiting centers, with perhap a strike cruiser and a handful of rapid-strike craft, theyd have to be very very careful doing anything. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218694-some-rumours-regarding-40k/page/2/#findComment-2608676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I hope it is the fall of Ultramar,I like that storyline the AL school the hell out of them because they have a copy of the codex too.Which would make the Ultra's need to be more like the AL to survive. It doesn't even make sense that the Ultramarines would have to break the Codex to survive. Seriously, what does that even mean? So because their homeworld and Primarch has been destroyed, they all of a sudden can't operate as normal Space Marines and have to change their method of war? Why? It's likely just an Ultra-hater wish rather than anything substantial. I could see it though- cut off from any supply base or recruiting centers, with perhap a strike cruiser and a handful of rapid-strike craft, theyd have to be very very careful doing anything. But why would that prevent them from using the Codex? The Codex would help them find a way to take on more numerous foes with less resources so while I understand they will have to be careful etc I can't understand what rules they would have to break which are in the Codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218694-some-rumours-regarding-40k/page/2/#findComment-2608729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wysten Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 The thing is though, the Codex is meant to cover every tactical eventrality, probably including the possiblity of being spilt from resources from extended periods of time. The falsecry that the codex itself is limited is being used as a gimmic more then anything else, as the codex is quite vast. White Scars, Iron Hands, Crimsion Fists and Reven Guard all manage to be different but follow the codex. I don't understand where this "Codex limits deveopment" comes from. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218694-some-rumours-regarding-40k/page/2/#findComment-2608763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellios Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 No too many things that are suggested here would please people on the internet and so this is not going to happen. The only way I can see this happening is if this is all some plot by the Alpha Legion to make us think this won't happen so that when they finally do this we are all taken by surprise. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218694-some-rumours-regarding-40k/page/2/#findComment-2608782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
esinhorn Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I hope it is the fall of Ultramar,I like that storyline the AL school the hell out of them because they have a copy of the codex too.Which would make the Ultra's need to be more like the AL to survive. It doesn't even make sense that the Ultramarines would have to break the Codex to survive. Seriously, what does that even mean? So because their homeworld and Primarch has been destroyed, they all of a sudden can't operate as normal Space Marines and have to change their method of war? Why? It's likely just an Ultra-hater wish rather than anything substantial. I could see it though- cut off from any supply base or recruiting centers, with perhap a strike cruiser and a handful of rapid-strike craft, theyd have to be very very careful doing anything. But why would that prevent them from using the Codex? The Codex would help them find a way to take on more numerous foes with less resources so while I understand they will have to be careful etc I can't understand what rules they would have to break which are in the Codex. How can you be effective if someone else has your playbook? I know this whole thing is poppycock :lol: but if the Alpha Legion got thier hands on the codex the Ultras and anyone following the codex would be in a world of hurt. Codex says fight my long range with missles,well be sure to bring extra anti missle defense. Codex says sneak through my right flank well guess what side is better fortified Codex says use paper ,I have scissors :lol: Get what I am tring to say. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218694-some-rumours-regarding-40k/page/2/#findComment-2608784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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