Dudley Nightshade Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I honestly wasn't sure if this was an Apocalypse question or a rules question, but we'll start here. I have read numerous times on these boards that the Vulcan Mega Bolter is good against flyers, but as I see it, unless it is explicitly pintle mounted or otherwise counts as an AA gun, you're only (on average) going to get approximately one glance on an AV10 flyer per round of shooting. Doesn't sound awesome to me. I also found another post from over a year ago where someone stated that the Titan's weapons definitely do NOT count as AA, but there were no responses whereas usually there's a chorus of agreement. Maybe that was absent because it's so patently obvious. There is always the possibility that I'm blind and this is addressed in the Apocalypse book. If that's the case, a page number would be awesome. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Titan weapons are not AA unless specifically stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vindicatus Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I think what people are going for is the fact that you get 15 shots at the thing. Statistically, some of those are going to be 6's, and some of those 6's are really going to hurt. I completely forget what the STR of the VMB is, but I'm sure that it counts for something. Also remember that glancing can still cause it to crash (if I remember correctly). You don't need it to blow up, so much as simply knock it out of the sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 The Vulcan Megabolter simply has the largest potential of titan weapons to kill a flyer- not the least because its the only one that doesnt use a template! That being said, it is strength 6, so against most flyers its glancing on a 4.... thats not bad. So no, its not an AA mount, but that doesnt mean it isnt going to get the job done more often than not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellios Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I had two super-charged vulkan mega bolters on those super-heavy baneblade things... don't remember what they are called.... shoot at my flyers in apoc for six turns... I lost 0 flyers and my luck wasn't super-amazing (I took some damage but I survived) so for AA I would suggest something like hydras... if you have no dedicated AA and nothing better to shoot at then by all means fire that mega bolter at a flyer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudley Nightshade Posted January 6, 2011 Author Share Posted January 6, 2011 Ah, that all confirms what I thought. Good to get some first hand stories, too. ...super-heavy baneblade things... Stormlords, I believe :-) Thanks everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 The only times Ive seen it used was from the back of a Reaver Titan. Took out 2 hellblades, not that they could hurt it. Of course, it also took 3 turns to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudley Nightshade Posted January 7, 2011 Author Share Posted January 7, 2011 My sense was that shooting at flyers with a Titan was not the most efficient use of the Titan's weapon, which is why I thought maybe I had missed something that granted the VMB an AA mount. From the little bit of Apocalypse I've played, three turns is an eternity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfire Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Just because something is the best of available choices, does not mean it's good. If you have all poor choices, the best may be simply bad (as opposed to awful or impossible)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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