Da_Todfatha Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 :P EMPEROR’S PRIDE a.k.a. The Lions of Durock :P Homeworld: Durock Gov’t Type: Feudal Population: approx. 100 million Terrain: Mountainous Location: Segmentum Ultima, near border of Segmentum Obscurus Geneseed: Ultramarines progenitor chapter, (name withheld under Inquisitorial Seal) Founding: 22nd Colour Scheme: Dark Blue and White Symbol: White Paw Print Chapter Badge HOME PLANET Durock was colonized in the early days of Mankind’s exapansion into the Segmentum Obscurus. The mountainous terrain made the planet relatively useless in regards to agriculture, and although it may have adequate mineral deposits to one day render it into a mining world, those resources are relatively difficult to get to and so far, mining guild conglomerates have found easier pickings elsewhere. Still, the presence of a breathable atmosphere led to colonization. The people of Durock, are split into two distinct groups known locally as Lowlanders, and Highlanders. Highlanders are organized loosely into a Clan System, and subsist by raising livestock on the grassy mountain pastures. The Clans often squabble amongst each other, frequently breaking out into open battles. The highland population is a mere fraction compared to the Lowlanders. The weather and terrain combine to form a tough living for the highlanders. In the Lowlands, A feudal government ruled by a Lowland King controls much of the planet’s largest population centers, off-world starports, etc. The Highland Clan elders do not pay much attention to the laws and decrees of the Lowland King, which of course causes the king much chagrin and often leads to war as the Lowland King tries to punish the highlanders for one transgression or another. It is during such warfare that the highlanders gain their well-deserved reputation as brutally tough fighters. This inherent aggressive behavior, as well as the all but impassible terrain has kept the highlanders alive time after time. Durock was chosen as the homeworld of the Emperor’s Pride Space Marine Chapter due to its relative low value for other imperial use, the hardiness of its people for recruiting by the new chapter, and its proximity to nearby, points of interest in both Segmentum Obscurus as well as Segementum Ultima. LIONS OF DUROCK The most notable fauna of Durock is the apex predator known as the Durockian Lion. These animals display incredible family loyalty, and extreme cunning complimented by their impressive physical capabilities and violent disposition. The Durockian Lion has played a major role in the Myths, Legends, and ancient religions of Durockian Culture throughout the ages. The citizens of Durock follow a belief system based on the All-Fadur, generally represented by the Golden Eagle, master of Man, god of wisdom. The eagle had a brother, the lion, which symbolized Strength, and Cunning. Together they struggled against the Raven, the Crow, and the Snake, lackeys of the evil WorldWyrm. Ancient Durockians saw the image of the eagle and the lion as portent of salvation, wisdom, power. During the Reunification of the Emperor's Great Crusade therefore, the people of Durock quickly assimilated into the Imperial Creed, as the Emperor's forces marched under the Aquila. The Aquila clearly demonstrated the Emperor's place in the Durockian ethos. The All-Fadur was the Golden Eagle, and he was the Emperor. The Great Crusaders did nothing to contradict this belief, for if the peoples of Durock wanted to serve the Imperium because they believed the Emperor was their deity. This saved men and materials for other areas of the Crusade. In more modern times, the Lion was still held in a very spiritual regard especially by the Highland Clans of Durock. Many tales tell of lion spirits saving lost children, or possessing a warrior in battle to help him overcome severe odds, for example. If someone were to disappear, it was said they “walked with lions” or were “Taken by the Lions”. Upon arrival on Durock, the new Chapter Master, Andrew MacGregor, chose the Lion as the symbol of the chapter. Citing that the Durockian Lions displayed many traits that embodied the ideals and beliefs of a true space marine, for the chapter master, the lion was an easy choice. Over the centuries, as highland youths have been absorbed into the Chapter, they have brought with them the legends of the lions, taught to them by their fathers and clan elders. Culturally, now, the highlanders believe that being adopted into the Emperor’s Pride is the highest honor, and the spirit of the lion within each of them actually transforms them into lions. Space Marines are thought of as lions, and because of this cultural phenomenon is so prevalent within the highland villages, they initiates feel the same way. Common people, refer to the marines as brother lions or lion brothers, and the brother-marines have adopted this practice now as well. ORIGINS & HISTORY Historical records mention the Emperor’s Pride Chapter as far back as the 37th Millennium and the chapter was first formed as part of the 22nd Founding. Imperial records show the primary justification for this Founding was as an answer from the High Lords of Terra to Ecclesiarchy demand for assistance in putting down the insurrection that afflicted so many planets during the Age of Redemption. Goge Vandire’s regime, known as the ‘Reign of Blood’, had dealt a near-deathblow to the Imperium. Following the Age of Apostasy and the destructive reign of Goge Vandire, the Imperium suffered attacks from within and without. The Crusades of the Age of Redemption had already begun during the overthrow of Vandire’s regime. But once the fervor had taken hold, it would need to run its course. It was during these times, of the Age of Redemption, that new Space Marine Chapters were desperately needed. The need for new Space Marine Chapters was exacerbated by the disappointing performance and reliability of the 21st or Cursed Founding. Because of the failed Mechanicus ‘experiments’ on the Cursed Founding geneseed the 22nd founding largely relied on the most stable and non-mutating geneseed available, that of the Ultramarines and their progenitor chapters. The Emperor’s Pride is documented as having taken part in several Crusades during the Age of Redemption helping put down secessionist revolutions on a number of worlds. Their work earned them Defensor Fidei Campaign Honors which were bestowed upon them by an Ecclesiarchy Bishop of Segmentum Obscurus. One such action began when the newly formed Ordo Hereticus of the Inquisition informed Chapter Master Andrew MacGregor of The Emperor’s Pride of the imminent threat of open rebellion on the nearby mining world of Demaphor VII. The Demaphor system supplied men and materials to several manufactorum centers and the rebuilding Imperium could ill-afford to lose it to rebellion. Acting decisively, MacGregor dispatched an Emperor’s Pride war group led by the battlebarge, DeathFang, to the Demaphor system. Upon arrival, the entire system was in disarray, and the Pride commander, Brother-Captain Black of the Emperor’s Pride 4th Battle Company, could tell that the inquisitor’s information had been accurate; the rebellion had actually just begun days earlier. It was into this maelstrom that the Emperor’s Pride warships plowed headlong, dispatching several rebel vessels along the way. The Pride commander quickly made orbit and launched a drop pod assault onto the ecclesiarch and administratum centers of the planet, hoping to wrest control of the most important facilities and quell the rebellion before it had started. The rebels were overwhelmed in the Administratum district, but in a bizarre twist of fate, those rebels that had been attacking the ecclesiarch palace, known as the Temple of Divinity, had just stormed the temple and dispatched the last loyalist defenders when the first drop pods landed. They now instead were penned up within the Temple of Divinity, themselves. Had the Temple of Divinity been a product of Vandire’s Reign of Blood, brother-captain Black would have simply destroyed the building, but this structure was older than that, and The Emperor’s Pride were adherents of the old faith. The structure must not be damaged! So, marines were ordered to storm the palace to keep damage to the holy edifice to a minimum. Several assaults were pushed back by the rebels, at great cost to the marines. It was at that time that Brother-Chaplain McAlpin took command of the assault squads as they prepared for another assault. His rousing oration invigorated the squads and they finally took the Temple of Divinity. The quelling of the Demaphor Uprising endeared the chapter to both the Inquisition and Ecclesiarchy alike. Both organizations have come to call on the chapter from time to time since. The Emperors Pride also took part in several actions in the service of Rogue Traders during the Age of Plunder. More recently they served with distinction in the Macharian Heresy Crusade, viciously putting down the insurrection that followed the death of the Warmaster. COMBAT DOCTRINE & ORGANIZATION Adhering to the precepts of the Index Astartes set forth by their Primarch Roboute Guilliman, the Lions of Durock view this sacred text as the compilation of thousands of years of warfare knowledge and use it as a guideline on how to conduct war. The Chapter is divided into the standard 10 companies, preferring to field the more flexible battle companies for most engagements. They feel the flexibility flexibility found in the Index Astartes is one of the most important tenets taught by the Holy text written by Guilliman. The chapter philosophy toward combat is hard-hitting direct combat. The chapter rarely fields Bikes or the rarer Land Speeders when it takes to the field, preferring instead to mount up in Rhino APCs or Drop Pods. The reason for this stems from the initial shipment of scout equipment for the chapter failing to arrive and thus the founding members simply developed their modus operandi without such vehicles. Due to the Chapter’s direct approach to warfare, and the resulting fatality rate of brother marines, it is not uncommon to see scout squads in large numbers. BELIEFS The Emperor’s Pride is highly devout in their reverence of the Emperor and Primarch. They see their service to the Imperium of Mankind as familial piety and a Sacred Charter from the Emperor who they affectionately see as their family’s true patriarch. They refer to the Emperor as the All-Father. Brother-marines see themselves as true brothers in the familial sense of the word. That Family extends to the Chapter Master, progenitor chapter, Ultramarines, Primarch and Emperor himself. This Familial view extends to their leadership, with the Chaplains and senior members being addressed as Fadur (Father). This familial relationship also applies towards the Chapter's view of the people of Durock. CUSTOMS The Emperor’s Pride is content to allow Durock to take care of its own day to day affairs, but when threatened from within or without, the Lions of Durock will fanatically defend their homeworld and its inhabitants. The primary contact between the chapter and the citizens of Durock is when Chaplains of the Chapter judge the highland games competition to identify new aspirants. The highland clans are proud to have a clan member accepted into the Lions of Durock. Upon recruitment into the chapter, many of these former clan members find it hard to ignore their previous affiliations and rivalries. During indoctrination aspirants have their former Clan loyalties expunged, though many remember what clans they came from, they learn quickly during training that their Imperial “clan” takes precedence and they set aside their differences with former rivals. While Clan rivalry still exists, Clan hatred is molded into more of a sibling-rivalry as they attempt to out-do each other with feats of bravery and skill on the field of battle. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218890-ia-emperors-pride-the-lions-of-durock/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_Todfatha Posted January 7, 2011 Author Share Posted January 7, 2011 Okay I think this is my first B&C Post, light me up with ideas concerning my chapter. I'm not a My guys are the best type person, I just want them to fit in and seem real. I've tried to insert them into several actions that havent been fluffed out by GW and that the history says had many chapters involved. thanks! Da_Todfatha I've posted a few pics of my minis in my C&B Gallery Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218890-ia-emperors-pride-the-lions-of-durock/#findComment-2610021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Kase Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 I really like the look of these marines, the deep blue gives them a cool menacing feel. The story line is good, and you provided a lot of nice little details/touches - along with a slight aire of mystery to their background. I had trouble with the link to the pictures - but that may just be me. Anyway, nice work, and look forward to hearing more of the Emperor's Pride - maybe a story about their recent campaign? Also - if losing a quarter of their number is enough to list them as under strength, I can't help but wonder what the Blood Angels must be listed as - between their losses in Space Hulk and to James Swallow. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218890-ia-emperors-pride-the-lions-of-durock/#findComment-2610170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_Todfatha Posted January 8, 2011 Author Share Posted January 8, 2011 Thanks for the comments, JK, the link is to my gallery here but its showing as private now. Maybe I have them in the wrong place I will look into it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218890-ia-emperors-pride-the-lions-of-durock/#findComment-2610184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Kase Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 I just realized - you've been a registered user for over 6 years, and these are 3 of your first four posts. It seems you put even Kurgan the Lurker to shame :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218890-ia-emperors-pride-the-lions-of-durock/#findComment-2610188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Kase Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 I can finally see them - nice work, and I like the worn look. Though I tend to paint my marines like they just came off the show room floor. I like the terrain too - home made? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218890-ia-emperors-pride-the-lions-of-durock/#findComment-2610192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightrawenII Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Welcome in the Liber. There are my comments and criticism: Emperor's Pride - Emperor's Pride?! Ugh, ugh... Okey. :lol: Competition to become a Lion of Durock is fierce, as they compete during a series of highland games to gain the favor of the All-Fadur’s representatives (typically several Chaplains judge the games). - Uhm, What? Where this Lion of Durock and All-Fadur’s representatives came from? New Emperor’s Pride Aspirants... yada yada yada... Clan hatred is molded into more of a sibling-rivalry as they attempt to out-do each other in the eyes of their superiors on the field of battle. - Out of place. The informations here aren't relevant to either Origins or History. The Homeworld is better suited for such thing. Their actual founding date is not known, however it is documented that the Lions of Durock took part in several Crusades during the Age of Redemption helping put down secessionist revolutions on a number of worlds. The Emperors Pride also took part in several actions in the service of Rogue Traders during the Age of Plunder. - I don't get it. They have two names?! :huh: They seem to avoid utilizing Bikes or Speeders of any kind... - Do or Don't, there is no "seem" young Jedi. ++++ Overall: Good start you could expand upon. It's better than most of the new submissions, but it's lacking in the detail and "cool" factor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218890-ia-emperors-pride-the-lions-of-durock/#findComment-2610351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_Todfatha Posted January 8, 2011 Author Share Posted January 8, 2011 Emperor's Pride - Emperor's Pride?! Ugh, ugh... Okey. :ph34r: - I don't get it. They have two names?! :blink: he he, well Dark Scorpions was taken :lol: In all honesty, Pride is a group of lions as well as a deadly sin. It's cool. I want Lions, Im a Penn State Fan, a lot of my motivation for paint scheme etc. comes from this. but referring to a single Emperor's Pride marine as what? Can't be a pride the way other chapters can be an angel, or a wolf hence the chapter symbol, and the history of the Durockian Lion. Competition to become a Lion of Durock is fierce, as they compete during a series of highland games to gain the favor of the All-Fadur’s representatives (typically several Chaplains judge the games).- Uhm, What? Where this Lion of Durock and All-Fadur’s representatives came from? Rewritten and reorganized the sections so as to explain the origins of terms like All-fadur, and Lions of Durock before I simply use them in a sentence. New Emperor’s Pride Aspirants... yada yada yada... Clan hatred is molded into more of a sibling-rivalry as they attempt to out-do each other in the eyes of their superiors on the field of battle.- Out of place. The informations here aren't relevant to either Origins or History. The Homeworld is better suited for such thing. Reworked into Customs. They seem to avoid utilizing Bikes or Speeders of any kind... - Do or Don't, there is no "seem" young Jedi. Roger, that. Fixed. Overall: Good start you could expand upon. It's better than most of the new submissions, but it's lacking in the detail and "cool" factor. Thank you NightrawenII for the help, let me know what new thoughts my edits elicit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218890-ia-emperors-pride-the-lions-of-durock/#findComment-2610812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_Todfatha Posted January 15, 2011 Author Share Posted January 15, 2011 edited Origins Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218890-ia-emperors-pride-the-lions-of-durock/#findComment-2618431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 If anyone has recommended the guides yet, I do so now. It's stickied at the top of the forum. Gov’t Type: FeudalPopulation: 100 million If it's a feudal planet that has many mountains, you probably won't have 100 million people. I know that sounds small, but if you have mountains, that means you have smaller towns. Because of the mountains, they can't get around too far because they lack technology. This means nations will be small, which means more wars. More wars means less people. I hope you weren't bored by my partial explanation of my thoughts. Geneseed: Unknown, Ultramarines progenitor chapter If they're an Ultramarines descendent, they have Ultramarines geneseed. Current Strength:850 Why? Also, I would avoid giving solid numbers that leads to problems. If you really want an accurate picture of your chapter's numbers, I recommend The Thousand Marine Myth in the Librarium. I'll put up the link, along with the rest of my critique tomorrow. Good night/morning. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218890-ia-emperors-pride-the-lions-of-durock/#findComment-2619767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apothete Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 If it's a feudal planet that has many mountains, you probably won't have 100 million people. I know that sounds small, but if you have mountains, that means you have smaller towns. Because of the mountains, they can't get around too far because they lack technology. This means nations will be small, which means more wars. More wars means less people. I hope you weren't bored by my partial explanation of my thoughts. Not necessarily so. The United States population is over three hundred million and it's only one of several major geographical regions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218890-ia-emperors-pride-the-lions-of-durock/#findComment-2619845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingsOfTheFalcon Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 It's only 300 million because of current technologies and the ability to import from large scale food producers. Without this tech, you could not support that size of population. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218890-ia-emperors-pride-the-lions-of-durock/#findComment-2619866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Geneseed: Unknown, Ultramarines progenitor chapter If they're an Ultramarines descendent, they have Ultramarines geneseed. Danger! Danger! Fallacy Will Robinson! It's a doubt theyll have Ultramarine geneseed; its the fact they share the genetic heritage of Guilliman through a Successor of the Ultramarines - there is a distinction. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218890-ia-emperors-pride-the-lions-of-durock/#findComment-2619916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightrawenII Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Geneseed: Unknown, Ultramarines progenitor chapter If they're an Ultramarines descendent, they have Ultramarines geneseed. Danger! Danger! Fallacy Will Robinson! It's a doubt theyll have Ultramarine geneseed; its the fact they share the genetic heritage of Guilliman through a Successor of the Ultramarines - there is a distinction. Eh, actually your argument is fallacious. :o The gene-seed is labelled after the legion, with additional info of predecessor. So the right form should be: Gene-seed (Predecessor): Ultramarines [unknown] Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218890-ia-emperors-pride-the-lions-of-durock/#findComment-2619945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Geneseed: Unknown, Ultramarines progenitor chapter If they're an Ultramarines descendent, they have Ultramarines geneseed. Danger! Danger! Fallacy Will Robinson! It's a doubt theyll have Ultramarine geneseed; its the fact they share the genetic heritage of Guilliman through a Successor of the Ultramarines - there is a distinction. Eh, actually your argument is fallacious. ^_^ The gene-seed is labelled after the legion, with additional info of predecessor. So the right form should be: Gene-seed (Predecessor): Ultramarines [unknown] Nope, you misunderstand my argument. I know how the Geneseed is labelled; but it doesnt come from that Chapter does it? My point is that the geneseed is dervied from Guilliman rather than the Chapter or Legion. I.e. "The Chapter uses the geneseed of Robute Guilliman, Primach of the Ultramarines, by way of the Doom Eagles Chapter..." You don't actually need to mention the Legion/Chapter at all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218890-ia-emperors-pride-the-lions-of-durock/#findComment-2620003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrata Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 I don't think how you want to describe it really matters. It is common place to say "My chapter has Ultramarine gene-seed" when it means they have the gene-seed of old Guilliman. Whilst it might be worthwhile point this out in later stages of editing, i.e. "This might be better worded like this...", at this stage of development it is just derailing the discussion. So, in short, the chapter has Ultramarine gene-seed and you don't need the unknown bit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218890-ia-emperors-pride-the-lions-of-durock/#findComment-2620044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 The people of Durock, subsist by raising livestock on the grassy mountain pastures. The weather and terrain combine to form a tough living. A feudal government ruled by a Clan system often leads to open war amongst the people of Durock. Feudal and clan systems are very different. Upon arrival on Durock, the new Chapter Master, Andrew MacGregor, chose the Lion as the symbol of the chapter. Citing that the Durockian Lions displayed many traits that embodied the ideals and beliefs of a true space marine, for the chapter master, the lion was an easy choice as the Chapter Symbol. Gotta love the name. Historical records mention the Emperor’s Pride Chapter as far back as the 37th Millennium and it is speculated that the Chapter was first formed as part of the 22nd Founding. Speculated?! What do you mean 'speculated'?! Surely you aren't suggesting....unknown Geneseed. This is a dangerous path you tread, young padawan. The Emperor’s Pride founding date is not known, however it is documented that the they took part in several Crusades during the Age of Redemption helping put down secessionist revolutions on a number of worlds. Their work earned them Defensor Fidei Campaign Honors which were bestowed upon them by an Ecclesiarchy Bishop of Segmentum Obscurus. One such action began when the newly formed Ordo Hereticus of the Inquisition informed Chapter Master Andrew MacGregor of The Emperor’s Pride of the imminent threat of open rebellion on the nearby mining world of Demaphor VII. The Demaphor system supplied men and materials to several manufactorum centers and the rebuilding Imperium could ill-afford to lose it to rebellion. Acting decisively, MacGregor dispatched an Emperor’s Pride war group led by the battlebarge, DeathFang to the Demaphor system. Upon arrival, chaos reigned, and the Pride commander, Brother-Captain Black of the Emperor’s Pride 4th Battle Company, could tell that the inquisitor’s information had been accurate; the rebellion had actually just begun days earlier. It was into this maelstrom that the Emperor’s Pride warships plowed headlong, dispatching several rebel vessels along the way. The Pride commander quickly made orbit and launched a drop pod assault onto the ecclesiarch and administratum centers of the planet, hoping to wrest control of the most important facilities and quell the rebellion before it had started. The rebels were overwhelmed in the Administratum district, but in a bizarre twist of fate, those rebels that had been attacking the ecclesiarch palace, known as the Temple of Divinity, had just stormed the temple and dispatched the last loyalist defenders when the first drop pods landed. They now instead were penned up within the Temple of Divinity, themselves. Had the Temple of Divinity been a product of Vandire’s Reign of Blood, brother-captain Black would have simply destroyed the building, but this structure was older than that, and The Emperor’s Pride were adherents of the old faith. The structure must not be damaged! So, marines were ordered to storm the palace to keep damage to the holy edifice to a minimum. Several assaults were pushed back by the rebels, at great cost to the marines. It was at that time that Brother-Chaplain McAlpin took command of the assault squads as they prepared for another assault. His rousing oration invigorated the squads and they finally took the Temple of Divinity. The quelling of the Demaphor Uprising endeared the chapter to both the Inquisition and Ecclesiarchy alike. Both organizations have come to call on the chapter from time to time since. I thought they didn't have any records... And who are the Emperor's Pride, anyways? Adhering to the precepts of the Index Astartes set forth by their Primarch Roboute Guilliman, the Lions of Durock view this sacred text as the compilation of thousands of years of warfare knowledge and use it as a guideline on how to conduct war. The Chapter is divided into the standard 10 companies, preferring to field the more flexible battle companies for most engagements. Unlike some chapters, however, they are willing to veer from its teaching and adapt to the situation on the ground, and feel this flexibility is one of the most important tenets taught by the Holy text written by Guilliman. Codex Astartes, not Index Astartes. I thought we also didn't know Guilliman was their Primarch. I still say dump the unknown geneseed. The chapter is better off without it. The Codex aactually teaches adaptation to the situation. That's why 99% of the chapters use it so much. They refer to the Emperor as the All-Father. Hey, they're Space Wolves! Brother-marines see themselves as true brothers in the familial sense of the word. That Family extends to the Chapter Master, progenitor chapter, Ultramarines, Primarch and Emperor himself. This Familial view extends to their leadership, with the Chaplains and senior members being addressed as Fadur (Father). This relationship also applies toward the people of Durock. Why? The Emperor’s Pride is content to allow Durock to take care of its own day to day affairs, but when threatened from within or without, the Lions of Durock will fanatically defend their homeworld and its inhabitants. The only contact between the chapter and the citizens of Durock is when Chaplains of the Chapter judge the highland games competition to identify new aspirants. And the Highlands/Highland Games are what? Upon recruitment into the chapter, many of these former clan members find it hard to ignore their previous affiliations and rivalries. During indoctrination aspirants have their former Clan loyalties expunged, though many remember what clans they came from, they learn quickly during training that their new Imperial “clan” comes first and they set aside their differences with former rivals. While Clan rivalry still exists, Clan hatred is molded into more of a sibling-rivalry as they attempt to out-do each other in the eyes of their superiors, as well as the all-seeing All-Fadur, on the field of battle. So now he's the All-Fadur. Sounds like an interesting chapter, I hope to see more soon. And here's the Thousand Marine Myth link. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218890-ia-emperors-pride-the-lions-of-durock/#findComment-2620550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_Todfatha Posted February 3, 2011 Author Share Posted February 3, 2011 Hey Everyone, thanks so much for the feedback and I've tried to fix and fleshout, the original post in this thread has been heavily edited, so if you have the time, go ahead and chop it up again for me. Here are some of the specific things you guys mentioned previously that have been addressed in the latest edit. If anyone has recommended the guides yet, I do so now. It's stickied at the top of the forum. 1. Gov’t Type: FeudalPopulation: 100 million If it's a feudal planet that has many mountains, you probably won't have 100 million people. I know that sounds small, but if you have mountains, that means you have smaller towns. Because of the mountains, they can't get around too far because they lack technology. This means nations will be small, which means more wars. More wars means less people. I hope you weren't bored by my partial explanation of my thoughts. 2. Geneseed: Unknown, Ultramarines progenitor chapter If they're an Ultramarines descendent, they have Ultramarines geneseed. 3. Current Strength:850 Why? Also, I would avoid giving solid numbers that leads to problems. If you really want an accurate picture of your chapter's numbers, I recommend The Thousand Marine Myth in the Librarium. I'll put up the link, along with the rest of my critique tomorrow. Good night/morning. 4. The people of Durock, subsist by raising livestock on the grassy mountain pastures. The weather and terrain combine to form a tough living. A feudal government ruled by a Clan system often leads to open war amongst the people of Durock. Feudal and clan systems are very different. 1. Okay the population of the earth was something in the neighborhood of 550 Million in the 1600s so 100 million on an entire planet isn't too far fetched i don't think. 2. I've fixed the geneseed debate with a plot hook, I've given an inquisitorial connection in the Origins, I think we're okay now. 3. Taking into account the 1000 marine myth, I've deleted all mention of the Current manpower of the chapter. 4. Fixed. I still have both systems and the planet is listed as feudal but the Clans are indeed present. BTW, feudal and Clan systems were present in Scotland at the same time were they not? highland clans chose sides as to who the rightful king was during the jacobite rebellions in the 1600s so a mountainous planet could surely support a Feudal government empowered by the Imperium to rule a planet for them, and a Clan system to loosely rule the barbaric clans in the remote highlands. <-- Thats the idea I'm going for anyway, I may not have described it well but hopefully I've fleshed it out a bit better now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/218890-ia-emperors-pride-the-lions-of-durock/#findComment-2645039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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