Oiad Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Well rumours are just rumours - good at giving us something to chat about between the waiting, but nothing more. I was more concerned/confused about the mentioning of the Exorcists, which would be news even in the rumours department. Brother Tyler's entry on the Exorcists, based only on the known facts debunks much of the misinformed link between them and the Grey Knights that the WH40K community has begun to spin around them. To stay on track with the topic, based on the news of the codex name I can only see successor chapters being in this codex - which like the Space Wolves there are none, so far. Unless Mr. Cruddace has changed their fluff so they become a sucessor chapter then I can't see the Exorcists even being in the codex, especially as they already have an entry in another. If it had been Codex: Daemonhunters, we may have had a different story... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219059-incoming-grey-knights/page/3/#findComment-2614537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verythrax Draconis Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Did you guys paid attention to the release of Dawn of War @: Retribution, scheduled for march? It's just a month before the GK release. Artwork shows a LOT of =I= inconography (as expected, by the end of the 2nd campaign) but there's no =I= faction at all! =I= is more likely to be the antagonist of the campaign, or special units for IG (or even SMs as well) - what is very likely, since all the screenshots for the expansion just shows Ork, Eldar and Chaos stuff. Why are they hiding IG? :verymad: GW scheduled the GK release very well. A new DoW2 expansion will bring the hobby to the mainstream again for some time, and will put =I= in the spotlight as well. It could match well the theory that =I= will have their own book, even as generic imperial supplement :verymad: GW can even use this as a thermometer to see if a standalone =I= army/supplement is viable by the PC game's feedback. I'm almost believing that the best is yet to come! EDIT: just read about the possibility of =I= still being in the codex as special characters, elites and such. It makes a LOT of sense, so it impress me how this possibility passed under the radar in all our speculation threads :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219059-incoming-grey-knights/page/3/#findComment-2614610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oiad Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 It would have been great to have a game tie-in with this codex, what with upcoming Grey Knight fiction from BL too. But the revelation that IG are in instead of the Inquisition (as many of us had thought) messes that up. Then again, GW have always spread the load rather than give one faction complete franchise dominance for the space of a month or so. It's not a shock. Expect Inquisitors and Assassins still to in because they're fan favourites, even if they haven't worked well in their current edition. The status of anything else, including IG-lite is open to debate at the moment with rumours going either way as to level of their inclusion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219059-incoming-grey-knights/page/3/#findComment-2614643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verythrax Draconis Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Just finished reading the rumours and I'm quite sure that the inquisitors and retinues will be available, and options to field henchmen as troops as well. Maybe we can expect the GKs as NPC troops to chase the Blood Ravens around? <_< Awesome presence in a best-selling PC game, to guarantee a successful release of the miniature range! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219059-incoming-grey-knights/page/3/#findComment-2614655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
I-Seek-Knowledge Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Well, I'm very happy that the Grey knights are getting an update! I'm not a grey knight player persey, but I really like the models and will more than likely try and purchase the soon to be "old" models when possible just to have them part of my collection. I have always been interested in playing a game with them as allies. Though I will wait and see and maybe build a 500 point army just for those big games. Again By the Emperor, Bless our Inquisitorial Players! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219059-incoming-grey-knights/page/3/#findComment-2616477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakehunter52 Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 It's about time. :D GW scheduled the GK release very well. A new DoW2 expansion will bring the hobby to the mainstream again for some time, and will put =I= in the spotlight as well. It could match well the theory that =I= will have their own book, even as generic imperial supplement :D Yes, I don't think it is an accident regarding the release. I am sure DoW has garnered a lot of new fan base for GW and they intend to exploit it to the max. I noticed on the announcement that it said that there would be additional information given out starting in a few weeks. That's about a 2 1/2 month time frame to garner interest in the new book. It seems like GW is taking our faction real seriously and trying to make a solid core of Grey Knight players. I hope so because not only would I like to see our ranks grow but also to see the support increase, the background, the citadel models, heck, posters and artwork. This is a great time to be part of Chapter 666. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219059-incoming-grey-knights/page/3/#findComment-2617118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOCSpanky Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 I gotta go clean my shorts.......... Just saw this today. I am thrilled its GK, and NOT Daemonhunters. Don't think I ever played a single game with an inquisitor..... And I have played GK since the current book was new! DOC Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219059-incoming-grey-knights/page/3/#findComment-2624181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Kezef Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 5 GK Termies, Grand Master, GK dread and a Stromraven. Can't wait! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219059-incoming-grey-knights/page/3/#findComment-2624470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 I've been messing with a S Guard list that's basically; Dante + Honour Guard/S Guard + Priest (for no scatter DS) 2 x S Guard + Priest 2 x Furioso Dreads (either Dual Blood claws, or the just as nasty Frag Cannon) 2 x Storm Raven 5-7 Scouts (for home objective holding) And it's brutal. Even if you managed to imobilise/destroy the two SR on the first turn, the mobility of the S Guard is such they can still pick thier assault, and 15 I5 S5 MC Power Weapon attacks on the charge is devestating! ;) As is FnP coupled with 2+ saves. The only thing I feel the lack of is Invulnerable saves, where even the 5+ of a Terminator would be a massive bonus. The Dreadnoughts are shockingly stupid. My mates don't get any fun from facing the Dual Claws, and the Frag Cannon is just as bad. 2 S6 Rending Templates, supported by a Meltagun and Magna Grapple will cripple just aobut anything, before you finish it off with a DCCW to the face. AV14 isn't really a problem either. I look forward to tailoring this sort of list to a GK version. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219059-incoming-grey-knights/page/3/#findComment-2624659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vindicatus Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Mildly OT : It appears in DoW:Retribution that the Imperial Guard is being lead by a member of the Ordo Hereticus Inquisitori. I theorize that the Blood Ravens and IG-led forces will be working apart from each other, trying to get to the Chapter Master; Ordo Hereticus to finally expose the taint of the chapter and point to it's gene seed, and the Blood Ravens to expunge the proof of such, and take care of their own before too much attention is brought before the High Lords of Terra. Back on the topic-train, I've been talking with some folks about the whole Grey Knight thing. As mentioned in a previous topic, I dislike people who are a part of that 'flavour of the month' club, but I can see the appeal of this army in particular. Furthermore, it's spoken that the up and coming GK are supposed to be just as difficult to play (tactically and strategically) as the current army, which might spurn those who are just looking for an easy win with an overpowered codex in their hand. The fact that the army is 'hard to play' appeals dearly to me because I enjoy challenges, and furthermore, I think the game should rely a lot more on tactical thinking and strategy than it should 'run forward, gunline, shoot, beefy dude up front, let the beatdown's commence'. That said, I'm ticking down the days until April. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219059-incoming-grey-knights/page/3/#findComment-2624682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Validar Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Vindicatus: I agree a lot with your ontopic part. A challange is great, I mean, how important is it to win, anyway? But I'd like to see the GK get just a few options. Right now the list of viable builds are rather slight. I don't want overpowered options for the new dex, I just want options! I'm praying for none of the no-brainer choices, but a healthy chunk of viable options to build your force around. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219059-incoming-grey-knights/page/3/#findComment-2625284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nian Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 What I would like to see is the options from forgeworld been added to the codex, Razorback with Twin-linked Psycannon anyone? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219059-incoming-grey-knights/page/3/#findComment-2625445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oiad Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 ...and psyk-out grenade launchers, which allow you to assault at I10? ;) Think that one's been mentioned several times. With the rumoured direction they're going in I can see Grey Knights getting razorbacks, the FW above invention is more controversial and more unlikely. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219059-incoming-grey-knights/page/3/#findComment-2625537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjørn eirik Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 By the dark GODS, as if I didn't have enough PA models to glue and paint (a full space marines battle company and equal sized DIY CSM army), but now the models I've been waiting patiently for for YEARS will soon be released for me to get my grubby hands over. I guess it paid of to be cheap and not pay lots of money for a few metal figures. I've just not found it to be worth it. And I'm hoping the new GK won't cost much more than a tactical squad (10 for 23£) for a ten man squad. But if they're nice enough, I just might pay 23£ for a 5 man squad. And I'll still be waiting for a witch hunters codex :P +++ BEGIN TRANSMISSION +++ Loyal Citizen of The Emperor: The only Daemonhunters codex you may download can be found on the GW website. We shall assume you aren't asking for any other kind of download. The consequences for doing so are unthinkable. The Emperor Protects. And is always watching. +++ END TRANSMISSION +++ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219059-incoming-grey-knights/page/3/#findComment-2632076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xMALLEUSx Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 PRAISE THE EMPEROR!!!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219059-incoming-grey-knights/page/3/#findComment-2635639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
amuro_ray Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 From GW Website: The Stormraven kit includes iconography for both the Blood Angels Chapter and also the Grey Knights - this gives hobbyists the option to detail their Stormraven for either of the forces that can utilise it. ...i shed happy tears :rolleyes: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219059-incoming-grey-knights/page/3/#findComment-2646345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vindicatus Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Mildly OT again : I managed to get into the DoW2:Retribution beta yesterday (totally forgot that I had signed up on the boards), and I while only the multiplayer is available for the time being, I have to say I'm impressed with the options available to the Inquisition-led forces. That being said, I think this may have been the plan all along, what with the March 1st release of DoW2:Retribution to bring the Holy Ordos to light to the rest of the world, and then drop the kablam-hammer with the new Grey Knight's codex in April. My only quandry is... when in April. I can't bite my nails any shorter, dammit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219059-incoming-grey-knights/page/3/#findComment-2646886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 I want options for the above mentioned Kablam-Hammer - it sounds very Malleus orientated and should make all hits S10 and ignore Inv saves and and have wording that gets arounds ID. When fighting Daemons it strikes at I10 too. And it must also shoot deadly Emperor lightning. B) Regrettably DOW 2 never grasped me so I'm not overly moved by it, but... April may get expensive - I am really looking forward to it, it's been a while since I was so eager about a codex - although I must admit I am keeping more of an open mind with this one as the current Dex provoked a lot of thought - especially for radical =][= players, not to mention the need to use your head with GK on the table! Using skill and tactics with a finesse army is great, I'm looking forward to the challenge. Roll it on! MR. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219059-incoming-grey-knights/page/3/#findComment-2647692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inache Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 I ordered three SR's yesterday to match the three LR's I already have, and I can't wait to get started on them. At this point I just want that advance order email from GW so I can see the models. If I make it that long I should be fine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219059-incoming-grey-knights/page/3/#findComment-2647978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brovius Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 I ordered three SR's yesterday to match the three LR's I already have, and I can't wait to get started on them. At this point I just want that advance order email from GW so I can see the models. If I make it that long I should be fine. I've got 2 Stormravens on the way, myself. My plan is to use them as wingmen for my Thunderhawk in apoc games There's a new batch of rumors on Heresy Online here http://www.heresy-online.net/forums/showth...65&page=311 Some sound kinda bad though, such as GKs downgrading to WS4 and having Rhino/Razorback options, which makes me a sad panda Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219059-incoming-grey-knights/page/3/#findComment-2649920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judanas Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 I ordered three SR's yesterday to match the three LR's I already have, and I can't wait to get started on them. At this point I just want that advance order email from GW so I can see the models. If I make it that long I should be fine. I've got 2 Stormravens on the way, myself. My plan is to use them as wingmen for my Thunderhawk in apoc games B) There's a new batch of rumors on Heresy Online here http://www.heresy-online.net/forums/showth...65&page=311 Some sound kinda bad though, such as GKs downgrading to WS4 and having Rhino/Razorback options, which makes me a sad panda Karamazov? Karamazov?! He's a Witch Hunters inquisitor and a monodominant, he wouldn't stay in the same room as Grey Knights, let alone fight with them...And he's from the Witch Hunters Codex, not the Demonhunters Codex. Great, I'm going to need to put that model on the shelf because the Grey Knights stole him. Nuts. Makes me seriously wonder what will be left besides Battle Sisters by the time the next codex rolls around. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219059-incoming-grey-knights/page/3/#findComment-2650036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azezel Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Nuts. Makes me seriously wonder what will be left besides Battle Sisters by the time the next codex rolls around. Funny you should say that, 'cos it means there might be nothing besides Battle Sisters in their new codex. Which would be fantastic! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219059-incoming-grey-knights/page/3/#findComment-2650048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judanas Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Nuts. Makes me seriously wonder what will be left besides Battle Sisters by the time the next codex rolls around. Funny you should say that, 'cos it means there might be nothing besides Battle Sisters in their new codex. Which would be fantastic! I'd like more Sisters, yes. But at the same time I LIKED my big chair. I hated the guy fluff-wise (What an ass) but I like the big chair and I liked my Crusaders. I'd be sad if they were gone. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219059-incoming-grey-knights/page/3/#findComment-2650064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azezel Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 In that case I have good news for you - it looks like he's not gone - just moved Codex. You can still field him, and rumour is you don't need to use GK if you don't want to - although even monodominants would be able to work with GK, their loyalty and purity are beyond qestion. From the rumours we have, all of your WH Inquisition models would seem to have a home in Codex: Grey Knights. You could even use Penitent Engines as Dreadknights and Sisters as Crusaders if you want. Don't think of it as getting kicked out of WH, think of it as getting your new codex at least a year bbefore those of us who play Sisters. Everybody wins! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219059-incoming-grey-knights/page/3/#findComment-2650200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judanas Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 In that case I have good news for you - it looks like he's not gone - just moved Codex. You can still field him, and rumour is you don't need to use GK if you don't want to - although even monodominants would be able to work with GK, their loyalty and purity are beyond qestion. From the rumours we have, all of your WH Inquisition models would seem to have a home in Codex: Grey Knights. You could even use Penitent Engines as Dreadknights and Sisters as Crusaders if you want. Don't think of it as getting kicked out of WH, think of it as getting your new codex at least a year bbefore those of us who play Sisters. Everybody wins! *twitch* Except Sisters don't have the right weapons to be...anything...in the codex I know of. And I'm ot so sure about Monodominants working with Grey Knights. Loyal or not, they are still psykers and thus deserve death. It annoys me that my stuff got split into two codexes, one of which will not exist for a few years. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219059-incoming-grey-knights/page/3/#findComment-2650261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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