Angelus Mortifer Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 The term "placed in Reserve" is a different "mechanic" from being deployed isn't it? An interpretation can therefore be as others have suggested - that whilst in Reserve squads have to remain complete (i.e. no Combat Squadding), but when you deploy you are no longer in Reserve and so you may then Combat Squad. Just a stab in the dark so to speak... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Weasel Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 But that's not what they wrote, so I suppose, by RaW, what I think is moot. :P it doens't change when you make a combat squad, on deployment, it clarifies that you can't combat squad them off the table to put half in a transport and walk the rest on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Fury Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Q: Can you take a Drop Pod with a 10-man squad andthen put a combat squad in it, deploying the other combat squad on the table, or leave it in reserve but not in the Drop Pod? (p32) A: No, because squads that are placed in reserve may not break down into combat squads. This is not a change at all. You never could combat squad in reserves before, this just clarifies it. This is exactly why you make one reserves roll for a 10 man squad and then combat squad at deployment. All this clarified is that you cannot combat squad, deploy half and deep strike the other half, and we already knew that. You cannot combat squad any squad that is in reserves, ever. You can combat squad a 10 man squad at the time of their deployment. Mutually exclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 The FAQ explicitly states you can't combat squads held in reserve. There is no getting around it now. G :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhx711 Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Is the 1.2 version the most current? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaane Feiwong Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 But that's not what they wrote, so I suppose, by RaW, what I think is moot. ^_^ it doens't change when you make a combat squad, on deployment, it clarifies that you can't combat squad them off the table to put half in a transport and walk the rest on. I agree if the transport is already on the table. However, if you deploy the entire squad and the transport at the same time, it would be fine to have 5 in and 5 out. The rules do state they may be deployed in seperate locations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Weasel Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 The FAQ explicitly states you can't combat squads held in reserve. There is no getting around it now. G ^_^ and you can't when they are in reserve you can't combat squad them. when you deploy them you can. It's not changing any rule. you can't split them before you deploy them, IE while they are being held in reserves. You can split them on deployment, even from reserves, just not while they are in reserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain Mungo Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 ...You cannot combat squad any squad that is in reserves, ever. You can combat squad a 10 man squad at the time of their deployment. Mutually exclusive. Actually, when you put it like that it kind of makes sense. But if this is really what the FAQ answer was supposed to do then GW missed it big. Either way GW intended it I think they need a quick clarification and unless/until they do, odds are reserved units can't ever combat squad. ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted January 14, 2011 Author Share Posted January 14, 2011 If a unit can deploy from reserve then combat squad, why do we have a rule specifically allowing combat squadding out of a drop pod. Seems pretty unnecessary to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Weasel Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 because in general you cant deploy out of a transport then combat squad? IE, you can't have your squad, in a rhino, deploy from reserves, exit the rhino, and then combat squad. Nore can you place a combat squad in a rhino and 5 outside in reserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain Mungo Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 If a unit can deploy from reserve then combat squad, why do we have a rule specifically allowing combat squadding out of a drop pod. Seems pretty unnecessary to me. I've always assumed this is because such a unit "deploys" into the drop pod, and since a transport can only carry one unit they get the option to combat squad when disembarking from the drop pod. If so then it doesn't necessarily change much in this case I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 The FAQ explicitly states you can't combat squads held in reserve. There is no getting around it now. G :D and you can't when they are in reserve you can't combat squad them. when you deploy them you can. It's not changing any rule. you can't split them before you deploy them, IE while they are being held in reserves. You can split them on deployment, even from reserves, just not while they are in reserve. You are basically rewriting the rules. There is no question. G :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Weasel Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 I disagree, and you saying i'm changing the rules doens't change my stance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted January 14, 2011 Author Share Posted January 14, 2011 I think it would be wise to take this discussion to the OR forum. I don't think we'll reach a settlement on it here, perhaps more people looking at it there would help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Weasel Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 but, but, i never go there:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted January 14, 2011 Author Share Posted January 14, 2011 sorry Brother Weasel. I've started a thread on this at the OR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Weasel Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 it's ok, I'm just BA through and through:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Why are you afraid to discuss it with others outside our forum ?? * sighs * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpWalker Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 From your interpretation black orange you have changed the rules. The faq just clarifies what everyone should already know... you can't combat squad a unit STILL in reserves. But after deployment. So this means no squad half in drop pod/half walking on the board from reserves making ONE reserve roll. Understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 lets see what is the general consensus over on OR. James agrees with me and I find he is very even keeled. G :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpWalker Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Even keeled can be wrong too. I could be wrong though. Just saying. :) Who's the OR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted January 14, 2011 Author Share Posted January 14, 2011 Official Rules forum of the B+C. lets keep the discussion as to combat squads and reserves to this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpWalker Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Thanks James1. I don't mean to ruffle feathers by the way. It's just I've been playing in this hobbie for over a decade. And unfortunately I'm used to seeing a lot of poor wording and dropped balls from GW's game rules. But the one rule we should all remember is the one to first have fun. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Weasel Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Why are you afraid to discuss it with others outside our forum ?? * sighs * it was a joke... afraid, or to lazy to click something other then my bookmark... either way, don't be a duface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mezkh Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 This thread reminds me of the panic when the FAQ came out regarding vehicles that moved flat out being destroyed on the same turn killing all passengers :D Take a deep breath, step back and see it's anwering a question that the answer to was already printed on the pages - but needed a little clarification for some people to comprehend. Where the previous panic hinged on the GW's use of the word 'turn', this hinges on the confusion around GW's use of the word 'deployment', which has forever been pretty annoyingly vague. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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