Orphus Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 I am annoyed that Ragnar can be instant killed still, it really annoys me. For his points cost him and Njal should be able to withstand being instant killed by weapons double their toughness, and only be instant killed by force weapons. They are supposed to be the strongest characters of the space marines after all. Erm... what? Eternal Warrior is supposed to represent models that are so unimaginably tough that convention weaponry is a mild inconvience, models who have unearthly powers or the patronage of higher beings. If anything, there is too much EW in the game at the moment, particularly in MEq lists. Ragnar and Njal are not by any means the "strongest characters of the Space Marines." Dante, Mephiston, Lysander, Helbracht, Calgar? All are arguably better candidates for EW. I agree with you up to here^^. More arguably, EW ought to be limited to the toughest of Monstrous Creatures (C'tan, Wraithlords, Hive Tyrants, Daemons) or inhuman beings (Necron Lords, Farseers, Abbadon and Typhus maybe.) Not any old Marine, who is simply very, very hard by normal human standards. No,no, no, NO!!!!! :D Necrons and the C'tan are hard enough to deal with without EW- I SHOULD KNOW! Abbadon already has EW as do Daemon Princes. I can understand where giving it to Farseers would come from (T3...chuckle) but the thought of having an opposing HQ being scrunched by a Grey Hunter with a power Fist is hilarious. :cuss Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219464-new-faqs-out/page/6/#findComment-2631123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalachiOfRuss Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Yeah, watch out for those Dark Eldar Archons with Huskblades now too. Actually DE have a bunch of stuff that causes Instant Death. Saga of the Bear should be making a comeback on your Wolf Lords! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219464-new-faqs-out/page/6/#findComment-2631787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Dragonfire Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Thanks for the Ragnar got nerfed explanation guys, though never played him" furious charge" on the "counter charge", seriously over the top !! I'm sure this was explained in some update / FAQ a while back, when the new codex was released ??. It has to be Ragnar and a squad of Wolf Guard in PA for me every time. Killed many a Deamon prince with this combo. Even better if delivered by Landraider, though an extremely expensive tactic. Ive used Sky claws with a Wolf Lord or Battle leader and it works fine, though I write my lists with the fluff in mind not for the uber game winning list. Blood claws are easier to hit in close combat, sure, but they hit back just fine, grey hunters are better value,but then GHs have to be the best value troops in the game. I dont waste points on expensive special weapons on my BCs, unless its a flamer,due to the poorer BS. +2 attacks on the charge makes them pretty deadly. It would be nice to give them a Vet Sarge in the form of a Wolf guard, but it aint the end of the world if I cant. Still loving the Space wolf Codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219464-new-faqs-out/page/6/#findComment-2634818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglez Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 I remember the faq when it first came out, as i thought this was a bit over the top, and then was corrected by someone on here and found out it was updated straight after heh. Few times I've used ragnar I've stuck him with a grey hunter mob (2melta, fist, mark of the wulfen and wolf standard), and an attached wg/rune priest in a redeemer and they kick ass, charged them into a 30 boy mob and killed 26 models. while expensive, it is great fun to have a IC turn a regular squad into a mini death star, though I dont like using special chars that can be instant deathed, it just sits with me wrong (mainly cos I lose my guys to hidden powerfists), Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219464-new-faqs-out/page/6/#findComment-2636891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfpack Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 While I get yer point...Ragnar still has a 4+invulnerable that is ALWAYS taken no matter what...so mini DS squad with him are definitely a good investment especially when you can get them enmasse AND in Trans Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219464-new-faqs-out/page/6/#findComment-2637879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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