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What's up with Mephiston?


Tomlev40

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It is my personal belief that any negative warp phenomenon: deamons, gods, sourcery etc. have reciprocating positive counterparts, and a healthy sea of grey inbetween.

 

There are imperial deamons as far as I am concerned, & sanguinius was imho closer than most loyalists to a form of partial ascendancy. Sheere force of will can if applied properly affect the immaterium and by proxy the material world. The black rage appears to be a warp based/related phenomeonon most likely related to the primarchs unusually strong sub-conscious connection to the warp, and the tangible imprint he left on the immaterium when he died, it is my opinion that another power was added to the emperors pantheon of "semi-ascendant warp entities", which is now sustained by the will and faith of those who still remember and worship him.

 

I like to think someone like Mephiston, by enduring the trial of the black rage is indeed a aspiring deamon of a kind. However this could to me as easily be the path to "imperial deamonhood" as chaotic, something Ka,banna presumably was aware of and attempted to influence the other way (even doubt itself would be a negative that would begin to eat away the the purity of his ideals/beliefs subtly pushing him further towards the dark).

 

Ultimately I think all warp connected creatueres have a small measure of the potential the Orks have, collective belief directed to one goal can produce some genuine effects. Just look at how SOB manifest Miracles, unless you think the emperor is a self serving dick who only ever wanted to asscend at the expense of the human race (in which case what are you doing with BA you tratorous scum!) then I think one can argue that the emperor becomes a focal point for the collective power of human belief. This is also why I think even knowlage of deamons is supressed amongst most, the very idea helps to empower and create chaos deamons whilst diminishing the faith and trust they have in imperial deamons (or angels or saints or whatever).

 

 

Just my 2p

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i second the idea that hes probably an avatar of Sanguinius more then an actuall demon (or aspiring demon)

 

dont forget that the very nature of chaos is to corrupt and to to trick its followers into servitude (just look at the HH) so if a deamon is talking smack of this nature against someone who already has doubts because hes so much more badass then everyone else i can totally see it as beeing a trap :rolleyes:

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He became a Blood Angel at the age of 17, and in a weird twist, he stopped aging.

 

So now he is in perpetual Teen Angst. Ya know, thinks he's better then everyone else, has all the answers, and is indestructible. Until a Sister of Battle glances his way, and then... :)

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He became a Blood Angel at the age of 17, and in a weird twist, he stopped aging.

 

So now he is in perpetual Teen Angst. Ya know, thinks he's better then everyone else, has all the answers, and is indestructible. Until a Sister of Battle glances his way, and then... :huh:

he will sparkle? :unsure:

 

stop the horror story! my nerves cant take it anymore *runs away flailing his arms screaming*

 

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When the chaos daemon calmly said, "And you're not a daemon?" to him, he freaked. That's all. The big secret bouncing around in his skull is how he aint that different from the daemons he's sworn to protect the Imperium from.

 

Anyway, I found a clip on youtube of Mephiston formulating his reply.

 

It's at 4:20 minutes in.

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might be that mephiston doubts about his purity, but if Edlrad Ulthuan (or however his name is spelled) comes to see if Mephiston survived a tyranid onslaught, and finding that he deos, says "ok, all is well" and high-tails it out of there, makes me somehow doubt Mephiston has a part to play in favour of chaos...
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might be that mephiston doubts about his purity, but if Edlrad Ulthuan (or however his name is spelled) comes to see if Mephiston survived a tyranid onslaught, and finding that he deos, says "ok, all is well" and high-tails it out of there, makes me somehow doubt Mephiston has a part to play in favour of chaos...

zuh? :P

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might be that mephiston doubts about his purity, but if Edlrad Ulthuan (or however his name is spelled) comes to see if Mephiston survived a tyranid onslaught, and finding that he deos, says "ok, all is well" and high-tails it out of there, makes me somehow doubt Mephiston has a part to play in favour of chaos...

zuh? :P

 

page 17 of our current codex, last paragraph of "the hives of Hollonan". "Eldrad Ulthran remains just longg enough to see Mephiston recovered from the rubble, grievously wounded but alive".

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