Chairman_woo Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 It is my personal belief that any negative warp phenomenon: deamons, gods, sourcery etc. have reciprocating positive counterparts, and a healthy sea of grey inbetween. There are imperial deamons as far as I am concerned, & sanguinius was imho closer than most loyalists to a form of partial ascendancy. Sheere force of will can if applied properly affect the immaterium and by proxy the material world. The black rage appears to be a warp based/related phenomeonon most likely related to the primarchs unusually strong sub-conscious connection to the warp, and the tangible imprint he left on the immaterium when he died, it is my opinion that another power was added to the emperors pantheon of "semi-ascendant warp entities", which is now sustained by the will and faith of those who still remember and worship him. I like to think someone like Mephiston, by enduring the trial of the black rage is indeed a aspiring deamon of a kind. However this could to me as easily be the path to "imperial deamonhood" as chaotic, something Ka,banna presumably was aware of and attempted to influence the other way (even doubt itself would be a negative that would begin to eat away the the purity of his ideals/beliefs subtly pushing him further towards the dark). Ultimately I think all warp connected creatueres have a small measure of the potential the Orks have, collective belief directed to one goal can produce some genuine effects. Just look at how SOB manifest Miracles, unless you think the emperor is a self serving dick who only ever wanted to asscend at the expense of the human race (in which case what are you doing with BA you tratorous scum!) then I think one can argue that the emperor becomes a focal point for the collective power of human belief. This is also why I think even knowlage of deamons is supressed amongst most, the very idea helps to empower and create chaos deamons whilst diminishing the faith and trust they have in imperial deamons (or angels or saints or whatever). Just my 2p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219482-whats-up-with-mephiston/page/2/#findComment-2618827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 He's just waiting his time to open the front doors when that Daemon invasion lands on Baal. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219482-whats-up-with-mephiston/page/2/#findComment-2618834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demoulius Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 i second the idea that hes probably an avatar of Sanguinius more then an actuall demon (or aspiring demon) dont forget that the very nature of chaos is to corrupt and to to trick its followers into servitude (just look at the HH) so if a deamon is talking smack of this nature against someone who already has doubts because hes so much more badass then everyone else i can totally see it as beeing a trap :rolleyes: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219482-whats-up-with-mephiston/page/2/#findComment-2618988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutis Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 He wears womens clothes in private. Don't judge him! :rolleyes: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219482-whats-up-with-mephiston/page/2/#findComment-2618993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaplain belisarius Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 that made me spit coffee...:) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219482-whats-up-with-mephiston/page/2/#findComment-2619082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamwulf Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 He became a Blood Angel at the age of 17, and in a weird twist, he stopped aging. So now he is in perpetual Teen Angst. Ya know, thinks he's better then everyone else, has all the answers, and is indestructible. Until a Sister of Battle glances his way, and then... :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219482-whats-up-with-mephiston/page/2/#findComment-2619095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaplain belisarius Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 stop it! thats the second time ive spat coffee! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219482-whats-up-with-mephiston/page/2/#findComment-2619096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demoulius Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 He became a Blood Angel at the age of 17, and in a weird twist, he stopped aging. So now he is in perpetual Teen Angst. Ya know, thinks he's better then everyone else, has all the answers, and is indestructible. Until a Sister of Battle glances his way, and then... :huh: he will sparkle? :unsure: stop the horror story! my nerves cant take it anymore *runs away flailing his arms screaming* -edit- spelling Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219482-whats-up-with-mephiston/page/2/#findComment-2619103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague Angel Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 He became a Blood Angel at the age of 17, and in a weird twist, he stopped aging. In that case Mephiston must have been one really freaking awesome teenager. Check that mullet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219482-whats-up-with-mephiston/page/2/#findComment-2619432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shatter Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 When the chaos daemon calmly said, "And you're not a daemon?" to him, he freaked. That's all. The big secret bouncing around in his skull is how he aint that different from the daemons he's sworn to protect the Imperium from. Anyway, I found a clip on youtube of Mephiston formulating his reply. It's at 4:20 minutes in. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219482-whats-up-with-mephiston/page/2/#findComment-2619687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonny Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 might be that mephiston doubts about his purity, but if Edlrad Ulthuan (or however his name is spelled) comes to see if Mephiston survived a tyranid onslaught, and finding that he deos, says "ok, all is well" and high-tails it out of there, makes me somehow doubt Mephiston has a part to play in favour of chaos... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219482-whats-up-with-mephiston/page/2/#findComment-2620258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 I doubt he will ever become a Deamon its more likely that he becomes a Daemon instead.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219482-whats-up-with-mephiston/page/2/#findComment-2620295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demoulius Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 might be that mephiston doubts about his purity, but if Edlrad Ulthuan (or however his name is spelled) comes to see if Mephiston survived a tyranid onslaught, and finding that he deos, says "ok, all is well" and high-tails it out of there, makes me somehow doubt Mephiston has a part to play in favour of chaos... zuh? :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219482-whats-up-with-mephiston/page/2/#findComment-2620306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonny Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 might be that mephiston doubts about his purity, but if Edlrad Ulthuan (or however his name is spelled) comes to see if Mephiston survived a tyranid onslaught, and finding that he deos, says "ok, all is well" and high-tails it out of there, makes me somehow doubt Mephiston has a part to play in favour of chaos... zuh? :P page 17 of our current codex, last paragraph of "the hives of Hollonan". "Eldrad Ulthran remains just longg enough to see Mephiston recovered from the rubble, grievously wounded but alive". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219482-whats-up-with-mephiston/page/2/#findComment-2620313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demoulius Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 oh yes ive just read it now :) however would like to play devils advocate here :D perhaps we was there to finish Mephiston off but this was now made impossible with the new blood angel reinforcements? :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219482-whats-up-with-mephiston/page/2/#findComment-2620446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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