Custodian Athiair Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Hi guys after Prospero Burns, and the other Space Wolves books (which built the passion for the wolves), i have begun to want to collect one (maybe in the future). my basic question is what do you think that the 6th Legion consists of? do they have Blood Claws? Thunderwolf Cavalry? etc. if anyone could give me details i would love the information! and would be very very thankful :) I would also like to ask other things basically: 1) What colour is the armour (is it darker than the usual ones at GW, i thought it would be) 2) Any modelling tips? To distinguish between Great Crusade and 40K? mostly it to be honest. if i think of any other questions i'll post them up :) thanks in advance Athiair :D ps. do you think i would be able to us my 40K Salamanders in conjuction with this Wolves. Either having them both in Pre-Heresy, or use them both 40K (for Apocalypse games really) and to go on top of that, does anybody know any incidents where the two Legions fought together... thanks again Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219895-pre-heresy-wolves-structure/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewlay Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Well I don't know their organisation but their armour was a darker shade of grey. And well as far as distinguishing, no aquila on chest, no plasma cannons, no Land Speeders. Although I know of no incidents of them fighting together, the two Legions had no real quarrles so it seems fine Hope that helps Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219895-pre-heresy-wolves-structure/#findComment-2623601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clewz Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Think the general structure was pretty much the same but with larger numbers as they refused to follow the codex astartes after the heresy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219895-pre-heresy-wolves-structure/#findComment-2623670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siege40k Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 They would be organized almost exactly as they are today. Great companies existed then, as they do in the current timeline, just with different leaders (lots of fluff for you) and only one was named. I have only read up to A Thousand Sons so if more are in Prospero Burns please don't spoil it :D . The armor for modeling purposes would have no aquila like has been mentioned, with lots of iron/bronze work and nordic scroll work on rune armor. See Scibor sculpts for some decent modeling ideas (there are lots of opinions on those models and sculpts though so form your own). The armor would also be a darker shade than what is used currently. A darker grey with a badab black or bestial brown wash would give it a nicely darkened shade. With the great crusade versus current armor, the forgeworld bits plus the space wolf packs from gw combine can go a long long way to building some beautiful kit-bashed models for a relatively cheap price. With the caveat that you spread out the FW bits amongst the GW counterparts. The etched brass is nice for symbols and stuff too! I would suggest Mark 3 for Grey hunters and non-termy armored Wolf Guard, space wolves at least imho wouldn't trade in time worn and tested armor for the newer stuff, where Mark 4/5 would be newer blood claws as well as closer to the actual heresy timeline. Also I believe sallies and wolves would be an interesting dynamic, slow, methodical and purposeful versus OMG CHARGE! And if painted and modelled well together the colors could like quite nice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219895-pre-heresy-wolves-structure/#findComment-2623830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 No they dont have Thunderwolves. Thunderwolves dont exist. Ever. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219895-pre-heresy-wolves-structure/#findComment-2623838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 LOL Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219895-pre-heresy-wolves-structure/#findComment-2623947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArsGratiaArtis Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Also I believe sallies and wolves would be an interesting dynamic, slow, methodical and purposeful versus OMG CHARGE! And if painted and modelled well together the colors could like quite nice. Setting "slow" aside, methodical and purposeful is the definition of Vlka Fenryka, not OMG CHARGE. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219895-pre-heresy-wolves-structure/#findComment-2624066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siege40k Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 I have only read up to A Thousand Sons, so my perspective is probably a little skewed. But I would rather define the wolves as Intense and drive, but...come on..Ragnar is all about the OMG charge, By the by and back on topic, any other questions to help an aspirant out? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219895-pre-heresy-wolves-structure/#findComment-2624148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midgard Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 They definitely had Blood Claws at that time, at least if you refer to "Battle for the Abyss", where the Wolf character (who, by the way, was a lot more like the M41 Wolves than Abnett's Vlka Fenryka) leads a pack of them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219895-pre-heresy-wolves-structure/#findComment-2626495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khestra the Unbeheld Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 They definitely had Blood Claws at that time, at least if you refer to "Battle for the Abyss", where the Wolf character (who, by the way, was a lot more like the M41 Wolves than Abnett's Vlka Fenryka) leads a pack of them. Interesting theory: that the closer to the presence of Leman Russ a Space Wolf is, the more stable and disciplined they are. The further away, the greater the propensity for acting poorly and being a dirtbag. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219895-pre-heresy-wolves-structure/#findComment-2626546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custodian Athiair Posted January 21, 2011 Author Share Posted January 21, 2011 just a small question does anybody have any rough list suggestions? just wondering what you guys think i should build my army out of... thanks in advance (again) Athiair :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219895-pre-heresy-wolves-structure/#findComment-2628269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewlay Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Do you mean what models or what units? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219895-pre-heresy-wolves-structure/#findComment-2629552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custodian Athiair Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 i meant units, as in an army list. sorry for the confusion. although if you have suggestions for models i might be interested... (but i just presumed the space wolf boxes with some pre-heresy armour from forge world thrown in) yeh but mainly looking for army lists :) Athiair :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219895-pre-heresy-wolves-structure/#findComment-2629630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewlay Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Well you answered your own question for the models As for the list; no Plasma cannons, no Land Speeders, Bjorn might be abit odd in the dread but otherwise it's all up to you, anything in the list can be adapted. So it's up to you really, I like to think that everything can be taken if your excuse is good enough :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219895-pre-heresy-wolves-structure/#findComment-2629647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custodian Athiair Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 yeh i was aware of thos basic rules, thanks :) (not putting you down though) but basically i was wondering like character make ups, eg what you would give to your wolf lord for example. and whether or not there are any units which are a big no no to taking... thanks. Athiair :D ps. can anyone give an explanation of what the wolves on fenris are... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/219895-pre-heresy-wolves-structure/#findComment-2636029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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