Olgerth Istaarn Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Just what it says on the tin. It's 200 pts for an AV12 transport. It flies around and maybe even shoots stuff (though AV12 will get popped with a stern look, ceramite plating or not). And if you use it, what would you put in it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decoy Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 The only thing I might use it for is modeling purposes. The thing's damned near useless. Basically, it's a cheap trick to sucker easily-distracted players into siphoning more money into GW's coffers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/#findComment-2626310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonSTeR Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 As I'm not a religious follower of the internet, i'm a little unsure of jsut how the Stormdodo works - I thought it was BA only!?!?!? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/#findComment-2626315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I'll be buying a kit for examination purposes. Then I shall decide whether I reckon I could mod it with my fairly poor skills into a Stormbird for my Heresy Wolves, if it's a no then I'll just buy up a few for Apocalypse and paint them in Codex Grey... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/#findComment-2626319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dublindawg Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 From what I gather it is a BA only vehicle, but I can't see the techno lords keeping this just for one Chapter. But then again they did take away our Russ tanks, just because. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/#findComment-2626325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 The only thing I might use it for is modeling purposes. The thing's damned near useless. Basically, it's a cheap trick to sucker easily-distracted players into siphoning more money into GW's coffers. elitest much? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/#findComment-2626328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturm Moonwolf Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I could see a use for it in Apocalypse, that's about it for me. But it's not on my list for even that atm. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/#findComment-2626330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Adams Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 The only thing I might use it for is modeling purposes. The thing's damned near useless. Basically, it's a cheap trick to sucker easily-distracted players into siphoning more money into GW's coffers. I would have to disagree, respectfully. as a BA Player (How did i get in here?) i use a storm raven in every list i build. with Extra armor and a 4+ save when it it thrown 2 feet across the board, it is quite survivable. It then becomes a fire magnet, abrsorbing the opponents fire for a turn, and in my experiences, rarely destroyed. Next turn the nastyness inside (Plus a Dreadnought!) gets out in assault range and owns. It then turns into a great fire support role, poppin transports, tanks, whatever needs killin. I have had my stormraven destroyed a crapton fewer times than my land raiders. Don't let the AV 12 fool you, its a tough ol' bird! Here is a Link to a great Tactica Article over in the BA section Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/#findComment-2626335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 As I'm not a religious follower of the internet, i'm a little unsure of jsut how the Stormdodo works - I thought it was BA only!?!?!? There is a rumor that it will be released to all SM's in a Whit Dwarf. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/#findComment-2626339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vassakov Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 As I'm not a religious follower of the internet, i'm a little unsure of jsut how the Stormdodo works - I thought it was BA only!?!?!? There is a rumor that it will be released to all SM's in a Whit Dwarf. Several people have said that it will be available to more than just Grey Knights and Blood Angels, but further info is at present unknown. On the other hand, subscriber copies of WD should start showing up very soon and that'll tell us once and for all I suspect. As for would I use it? No, probably not. At 200-230 pts with trimmings, it's far to close to Land Raider city for me. Also, £41? You are joking, aren't you? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/#findComment-2626352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decoy Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I would have to disagree, respectfully. as a BA Player (How did i get in here?) i use a storm raven in every list i build. with Extra armor and a 4+ save when it it thrown 2 feet across the board, it is quite survivable. It then becomes a fire magnet, abrsorbing the opponents fire for a turn, and in my experiences, rarely destroyed. Next turn the nastyness inside (Plus a Dreadnought!) gets out in assault range and owns. It then turns into a great fire support role, poppin transports, tanks, whatever needs killin. I have had my stormraven destroyed a crapton fewer times than my land raiders. Don't let the AV 12 fool you, its a tough ol' bird! Here is a Link to a great Tactica Article over in the BA section I dunno, mate. I've seen the tacticas, and in theory, they seem sound. As a Wolf, though, Ravens aren't anything horrendously scary. We have firepower to spare on 'em, and a Dread will last one round, maybe less in combat. For Wolves, we don't have the pure killpower of a Furioso (twin blood-talon) on our Dreads, and we have enough firepower on our Razors (and get three of them for about the same price as one BR) to match or exceed output from the BR, while simultaneously increasing target-saturation across the board (three targets instead of one, and when those are dropped, three more targets instead of two.) Statistically, in terms of Wolfosity, it's just better to run with Razors than a 200-point decoy. elitest much? It's only elitist if you're -not- better. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/#findComment-2626366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfpack Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I have to say I would get one just to model it...not sure about using it as I'm not hot on it from the pics I've seen...but time will tell...maybe stick my 'not so good' skyclaws in it and let em drop in on an opponent from the rear?...hmmmm Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/#findComment-2626374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Im not a huge fan. I dont like the unit existing so Im not going to toss one into my lists. Thats doesnt mean I cant see dozens of good tactical applications for this thing. In general though I see two basic ways a SW could run it: 1) Delivery- Keep it simple, keep it cheap. Extra Armor, at most one other upgrade. Boost forward, snag a turn 2 assault anywhere on the board with a full unit of Wolf Gaurd and a Lord and a Wolf Priest. This is for that 2500pt game where everyones bringing out the 'hammer units'. You could scale it down a bit and included it anything 1500pts and up of course.... Immunity to melta helps it move to stage 2: 2) Gunship- The stormraven has alot of firepower, and POTMS. Its a fast vehicle, so its offensive options are pretty sick actually. Just keep it moving and blast enemies with a TLMM, TLPC, etc. Pretty straightforward.... I mean, lets look at this a bit closer. A LRC is 260pts with a MM. Carries 16, solidly sturdy gunboat and deliveries a very solid CC punch where you need it. It carries 2 Hurricane bolters, TLAC, and MM eh? Stormraven can carry a TLMM, TLAC, and 2 hurricane bolters, deliver 12+ Dreadnaught, for.... 230pts. More firepower, faster, cheaper. Both of POTMS. Both are assault vehicles. One trades 2pts of armor on each facing for the ability to move 24" a turn while still being able to fire due to POTMS and gaining a 4+ save against 99% of the guns in the game and immunity to melta. It trades 3 pts of transport capacity for the ability to get a Dreadnaught into CC on turn 2. I ask you- is that not a huge deal for the points? Is that not a very powerful unit? So theyre useful... and? Im just going to say this now- AV 12 isnt that bad. My other main army, Eldar, is chock full of AC 12 skimmers and they stay alive atleast as long as anything heavier with a good player at the helm. As SWs we have a couple of advantages though: Firepower. The ability to bring more S7 and S8 firepower to the field than any other marine codex in a practical, useful manner is a powerful aid. A full salvo from a typhoon squadron should remove a Stormraven from the game, a broadside from some Long Fangs being nearly as effective for half the points. Inversely this means against most armies out there, in the hands of a SW player, the Stormraven is more survivable pt for pt. Other peoples heavy weapon units are more expensive, and they seem uninclined to take large typhoon units. Instead they throw a couple single shots out each turn.... and this thing needs some focus fire, especially if its moving flat out. Melta is the primary tank killer in many marine armies... wich means its a missile launcher with a crappy range. I actually think that short of a large squad of Vangaurd Vets *and their tripling the cost of this unit, if not quintupling it* that we could make the most use of this unit. And frankly, its another reason I hope we dont get it. Were a strong army.... we dont need this unit. Its unbalancing enough in the hands of a BA player. The last thing I want to see is all the power-armored armies zooming around in fast skimmers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/#findComment-2626376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki-LaughingDeath Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Hmm allow me a moment of contemplation... Uh NO! I would rather go with the Land Raiders and keep my feet on the ground. I will leave the jumping about like and out of control bouncy ball to other chapters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/#findComment-2626385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huskarl Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Anyone else think it looks like the vehicle used in the movie "Pitch Black"? Anyways. The Stormchicken is supposed to be used by the Grey Knights as well as the Blood Angels. According to the rumormill. I think it looks alright. Nice looking model. Would I use it with my wolves? Nope. Lets the BA come to me faster to die. I love it. Easily popped out of the sky first turn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/#findComment-2626386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Johnson the 3rd jr Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Is this something actually in the BA codex, or is this one of those lame ass additions from forgeworld? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/#findComment-2626423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Adams Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I would have to disagree, respectfully. as a BA Player (How did i get in here?) i use a storm raven in every list i build. with Extra armor and a 4+ save when it it thrown 2 feet across the board, it is quite survivable. It then becomes a fire magnet, abrsorbing the opponents fire for a turn, and in my experiences, rarely destroyed. Next turn the nastyness inside (Plus a Dreadnought!) gets out in assault range and owns. It then turns into a great fire support role, poppin transports, tanks, whatever needs killin. I have had my stormraven destroyed a crapton fewer times than my land raiders. Don't let the AV 12 fool you, its a tough ol' bird! Here is a Link to a great Tactica Article over in the BA section I dunno, mate. I've seen the tacticas, and in theory, they seem sound. As a Wolf, though, Ravens aren't anything horrendously scary. We have firepower to spare on 'em, and a Dread will last one round, maybe less in combat. For Wolves, we don't have the pure killpower of a Furioso (twin blood-talon) on our Dreads, and we have enough firepower on our Razors (and get three of them for about the same price as one BR) to match or exceed output from the BR, while simultaneously increasing target-saturation across the board (three targets instead of one, and when those are dropped, three more targets instead of two.) Statistically, in terms of Wolfosity, it's just better to run with Razors than a 200-point decoy. elitest much? It's only elitist if you're -not- better. ;) I could see that, at the end of the day the problem is not the unit its the context it is used in. I see your point, and it is definitely valid. SW's play different than BA, and that gives them different ways of doing things. Furiosos definitely make it a better choice :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/#findComment-2626427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Is this something actually in the BA codex, or is this one of those lame ass additions from forgeworld? Really? No, I assure you its in their codex. No FW additions here. Surely youve heard something about it before. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/#findComment-2626431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decoy Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I dunno, GM, I've only seen one in the LGS near me, and that was only for one game. BA players around here don't even bother with 'em. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/#findComment-2626437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnars Claw Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Hell yes. They are quite popular here and i've seen them do horrible things to people. I've also seen them die first turn and be awful though :teehee: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/#findComment-2626450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
calgar101 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Not too sure if it is something Wolves would regularly use, perhaps using them rarely on in the most dire circumstances. Also something worthy (I feel) is the Sr fast because of lucifer engines that all BA vehicles (bar LR's) or because it is fast in general? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/#findComment-2626455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Not too sure if it is something Wolves would regularly use, perhaps using them rarely on in the most dire circumstances. Also something worthy (I feel) is the Sr fast because of lucifer engines that all BA vehicles (bar LR's) or because it is fast in general? The stormraven is fast. Lucifer engines are for Rhino based vehicles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/#findComment-2626459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 You see, it fits with what I want to theme my army perfectly...My Heresy era Great Company relies on delivering units with PRECISION (A Drop Pod is not precise...) and being relatively subtle about it (Leaving a Drop pod lurking about is not subtle at all), therefore this makes sense, even if it's just for delivering my Scout units. Though I really would like to extend one stupidly and create a Storm Bird or three... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/#findComment-2626470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I intend to buy models i like, the Stormdodo is not 1 of them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/#findComment-2626473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Johnson the 3rd jr Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Is this something actually in the BA codex, or is this one of those lame ass additions from forgeworld? Really? No, I assure you its in their codex. No FW additions here. Surely youve heard something about it before. When I call myself retarded or clueless in this hobby as I often do, it is not just self depreciating humor. I'm a relatively new player. I've played BA a couple of times but it was jumpacks once and a mech list the other time that didn't include this. While I am extremely knowledgeable about the SW codex, I have giant gaping holes in knowledge when it comes to almost ever other codex. Thanks for answering though, because I'll pay attention to this thing. (I try to ignore the extra rules stuff from Forgeworld). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/#findComment-2626504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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