Wolf Guard Nostromo Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I do see it being viable as both delivery and gunship, but I won't be using it myself (mainly cause its such an odd looking model). I actually hope we don't get to use it to be honest - it would be as effective for us as for anyone and the SW dex has plenty of toys already... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-2626521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulweih Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 As with all GW models, I like to see that one in RL and decide from there whether I like the model or not. Stormchicken :P , they won't live that nickname out I guess. Would I use it for my wolves?-not really. And before I buy it just for Apoc, I'm going to check the released rules in IA10 or the Caestus Assault ram, because if it really can transport 10 Terminators like in the experimental rules, I'll be in for that model :) . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-2626531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brannrik Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Hm its a nice but fragile firebase. But will I use it? I guess no! Because atm we dont have a nice dreadnought to be put inside nor do Blood Claws do anything scary in cc. That leaves me with a unit of GHs inside and maybe some sort of MM/HF dread. But to be honest I think we got better options, as we dont rely on getting close fast so far! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-2626534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I dunno, GM, I've only seen one in the LGS near me, and that was only for one game. BA players around here don't even bother with 'em. They havent had a model for it yet. Mark me, now that theres a kit well see more of them. Especially since the previous 'semi-official' conversion required... 2 landraiders and a valkyrie? Yeesh. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-2626537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decoy Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 They havent had a model for it yet. Mark me, now that theres a kit well see more of them. Especially since the previous 'semi-official' conversion required... 2 landraiders and a valkyrie? Yeesh. Point granted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-2626540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglez Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 I need to see one in the flesh to see if I will buy 1 or 2 for my eventual flesh tearer's army. I've played against one 3 times and blown them up all 3 times with missiles, they are just like valkyre's but transport marine's and a dread, just more targets for my cyclone launchers (though I generally blow them up after they deliver their death company with chaplain and death company dread....ouch). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-2627087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShotgunFacelift Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 I'll end up buying just as a modelling challenge to make it look less hideous and midget-like. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-2627089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Scourge Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Topic is moot. We play Space Wolves. Storm Raven is Blood Angel and Grey Knight only. People like to promote this supposed "rumor" that they'll release it to the other SM chapters. Anything's possible, but I doubt it. The kit is shipping with ONLY BA/GK iconography. The vehicle is FAST. I think the best indicator we could possibly get as to whether it'll be released to other chapters is how well it sells. If GW moves enough units then it'll stay exclusive to two armies. If it bombs...well look for a couple page announcement of our good fortune in a future White Dwarf. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-2627149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 I'll end up buying just as a modelling challenge to make it look less hideous and midget-like. This. Though I pay into the money hungry hands of GW, I feel the need to change such an ugly model into something more tolerable. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-2627158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 ... like using it as the basis for a scratch build thunderhawk? Ill have to see it in person to see if thats viable. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-2627218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfire Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 There's plenty of scratch-built models out there. Even a few templates. I'm not sure it's the best unit for SW. SW are more shooty than BA these days, and rely less on small expensive units. It may not work as well with their style. Think about it for a second, what would you put in there? Grey Hunters? You could buy a whole second squad for the cost of a thunderchicken. I acutally think it'd be better for vanilla marines. They've got the Sternguard and Vanguard Vets to take advantage of it's speed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-2627224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vahouth Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 The guy that supported this rumour takes it back... little bit of an interesting update i heard today: apparently GW have done a bit of a last minute back-flip and decided that the stormraven will NOT be useable in all marine armies after all (apoc excluded of course). This completely goes against what i heard a few months back regarding it so im not sure what exactly they're playing at.... edit: note that i said 'apparently'. there could still be light at the end of the tunnel for non BA/GK players Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-2627395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
d@n Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Forget the armour 12, meltas dont get there double pen roll so with extra armour plus there 4+ save there pretty suvivable .thay Can be army to the teeth and you and can deep strike aswell and unleash twin liked multi meltas, twin linked laser cannnons and 4 blood strike missiles on vehicles and hurricane launchers on devistator squads. if you take 2 or 3 of them then you can pretty much wipe out anything that can hurt them the turn thay deapstrike. if you take say 3 squads of death co or in this isntance gray hunters you can deep strike all the storm ravens turn 1 and have empty pods turn up throughout the game and drop them on objectives to contest them then you can have the storm ravens zipping zaround picking up squads and dropping them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-2627423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Much like Thunderwolf Cavalry - I like the stat line but loathe the model. This said I will probably kitbash my own variant for use with my Grey Knights. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-2627432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigmund Hammerhand Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Its not pretty... not even slightly. Strange, that, considering it has so much of a thunderhawk in it. It looks too front heavy, like it is missing the middle and rear section. Whether we can use it or not, I won't. I like my list as it is, and even if it ignores the extra D6 armour pen, it doesn't mean that it is much more survivable. And it is jolly expensive to boot. Meltas will still fry it in no time at all because they pose such a threat. All in all, it doesn't really fit space wolves background IMO. Or space marine background. Bit lame, in fact. I'd much rather be able to use a thunderhawk because I rather like that model. Then again, it's current status as super gunship means that either it'll be horrendously overpowered, or not do its fluff justice. An army that is deployed by two thunderhawks... now that'd be quite something. Its rather unfortunate I dislike apocalypse so. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-2627441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague Angel Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 My Heresy era Great Company relies on delivering units with PRECISION (A Drop Pod is not precise...) Really? The Drop Pod that's renowned for it's precision? The Drop Pod that's so legendarily precise that it gets a special rule specially designed to show how precise it is? That Drop Pod? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-2627448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vassakov Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Grey Knights Storm Raven Image from the back of the box, courtesy of Warseer. You know, without the silly Hurricane Bolters on the front and a good paint scheme, it doesn't look that bad. I still can't justify it on any level (too many points, wrong FOC slot, too many £££) but if I could... well, I could be tempted to try and convert it a bit. Oh... and I can think of one role for it - Bjorn delivery system. :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-2627597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigmund Hammerhand Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 It looks like a baby bird thing, you know, plump and with very small wings (and ugly-ish, still)... I agree, though. It's not the worst model out there, but that's just not enough for me to even consider buying one... I'd rather buy the forgeworld thunderhawk if I had to decide (good thing I don't :(). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-2627618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 It looks like a baby bird thing, you know, plump and with very small wings (and ugly-ish, still)... I agree, though. It's not the worst model out there, but that's just not enough for me to even consider buying one... I'd rather buy the forgeworld thunderhawk if I had to decide (good thing I don't :)). I'd rather have a Cestus Assault Ram. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-2627627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphus Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 The only thing I might use it for is modeling purposes. The thing's damned near useless. Basically, it's a cheap trick to sucker easily-distracted players into siphoning more money into GW's coffers. elitest much? Whether in all seriousness or as a joke, Decoy has a point. I'm not elitist and what Decoy highlights is a probable sad truth. Also you perceived elitism is a little misplaced ( now you'll probably call me elitist ), I doubt his comments on easily distracted players are constructed in a manner in which he sees and projects himself to be above them. As I'm not a religious follower of the internet, i'm a little unsure of jsut how the Stormdodo works - I thought it was BA only!?!?!? There is a rumor that it will be released to all SM's in a Whit Dwarf. Several people have said that it will be available to more than just Grey Knights and Blood Angels, but further info is at present unknown. On the other hand, subscriber copies of WD should start showing up very soon and that'll tell us once and for all I suspect. As for would I use it? No, probably not. At 200-230 pts with trimmings, it's far to close to Land Raider city for me. Also, £41? You are joking, aren't you? Ditto. I intend to buy models i like, the Stormdodo is not 1 of them. Maybe the spreading of this stormdodo to the other chapters is to increase it's survival chances, lest it become extinct. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-2627655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 since i got bored of studying for a moment i did this paint mock up, offcourse one c/would use plasticard etc to extend the hull etc. here's what i managed to make of it; http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb281/amorfatipictures/paintmockupthunderhawk.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-2627663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vahouth Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Several people have said that it will be available to more than just Grey Knights and Blood Angels, but further info is at present unknown. On the other hand, subscriber copies of WD should start showing up very soon and that'll tell us once and for all I suspect. As for would I use it? No, probably not. At 200-230 pts with trimmings, it's far to close to Land Raider city for me. Also, £41? You are joking, aren't you? Sigh... Again. The guy that supported this rumour takes it back... little bit of an interesting update i heard today: apparently GW have done a bit of a last minute back-flip and decided that the stormraven will NOT be useable in all marine armies after all (apoc excluded of course). This completely goes against what i heard a few months back regarding it so im not sure what exactly they're playing at.... edit: note that i said 'apparently'. there could still be light at the end of the tunnel for non BA/GK players Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-2627683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wysten Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 It looks like a baby bird thing, you know, plump and with very small wings (and ugly-ish, still)... I agree, though. It's not the worst model out there, but that's just not enough for me to even consider buying one... I'd rather buy the forgeworld thunderhawk if I had to decide (good thing I don't :lol:). I'd rather have a Cestus Assault Ram. I mirror this post. Hard as steel, fast as the wind, designed to get A to B extremely quickly and disgorge "insert unit here" in the quickest amount of time. May cost a lot and be unoffical, but the model looks fantastic in my opinon, exactly the sort of thing you would see being used in space battles (Smash in, disgorge wolf guard.) and occationally in unconvientional ram tactics. A tank takes a melta, transport stops, disgorges everything which then proceeds to attack everything around it. Wonderful. I like the Stormraven and I think it should exist for every army, as all marine armies are meant to be an elite strike force that gets in there and wins battles, not pansying around with protracted warfare. There will be times where a drop pod is not possible, or a intermediate between a Thunderhawk and droppods which allow close fire support. I don't see why it should not exist. Then again, I think humanity is way over repersented, but from a gameplay perspective I guess more armies is awesome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-2627693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 It looks like a baby bird thing, you know, plump and with very small wings (and ugly-ish, still)... I agree, though. It's not the worst model out there, but that's just not enough for me to even consider buying one... I'd rather buy the forgeworld thunderhawk if I had to decide (good thing I don't :lol:). I'd rather have a Cestus Assault Ram. I mirror this post. Hard as steel, fast as the wind, designed to get A to B extremely quickly and disgorge "insert unit here" in the quickest amount of time. May cost a lot and be unoffical, but the model looks fantastic in my opinon, exactly the sort of thing you would see being used in space battles (Smash in, disgorge wolf guard.) and occationally in unconvientional ram tactics. A tank takes a melta, transport stops, disgorges everything which then proceeds to attack everything around it. Wonderful. I admit that I love the imagery of the Cestus and it's design, but it also fits wonderfully for the void-war tendancies of my current DIY :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-2627695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vassakov Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Several people have said that it will be available to more than just Grey Knights and Blood Angels, but further info is at present unknown. On the other hand, subscriber copies of WD should start showing up very soon and that'll tell us once and for all I suspect. As for would I use it? No, probably not. At 200-230 pts with trimmings, it's far to close to Land Raider city for me. Also, £41? You are joking, aren't you? Sigh... Again. The guy that supported this rumour takes it back... little bit of an interesting update i heard today: apparently GW have done a bit of a last minute back-flip and decided that the stormraven will NOT be useable in all marine armies after all (apoc excluded of course). This completely goes against what i heard a few months back regarding it so im not sure what exactly they're playing at.... edit: note that i said 'apparently'. there could still be light at the end of the tunnel for non BA/GK players Emphasis mine. Notice how what I posted was posted yesterday, and this morning the u-turn emerged. I'm a Long Fang, not a reader of the runes. :lol: Either way its a £41 large plastic box for Space Marines. I'd be astonished if it remains only in the hands of two armies, when there are 3/4 more they could quite happily sell it to. I suspect it will be an exclusive for a couple of months, then retrofitted in the Summer with this "Summer of Flyers" rumour thats being plied around the usual suspects. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220077-the-stormchicken-is-coming/page/2/#findComment-2627699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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