Grendellus Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 My oath to the LPC & the Ordo Inquisition is to model a 5-marine Kill Team. My goal: The chapters to be represented are undecided as I have to see what shoulder pads/decals I have in my bitz boxes. I have a few partially built, unpainted marines, but they look a bit "static". I may get myself a fresh box of new plastic at the GW shop this weekend along with some paints. There are so few Ordo marines entered in the LPC, so its unlikely we'll tip the scales for the overall forum championship. Ah, who cares? We're the best of the best. We are ALL chapters united as one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid Zaku Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Just one thing, though. Don't Raven Guard have green shoulder trim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heru Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Just one thing, though. Don't Raven Guard have green shoulder trim? The shoulder trim colour is an indicator of what type of squad they belong to (green being tactical). As this Marine isn't in any regular type of unit, he wouldn't have a colour, thus the trim would be left black (or it indicates that he is a Veteran...). EXAMPLE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grendellus Posted January 21, 2011 Author Share Posted January 21, 2011 From a few GW model pictures (DW Kill-Team rules), the chapter icon pad is actually trimmed in silver. I thought that would be a bit out of place, but the pictures show it. How canonical should I trust GW's own pics to be? My local Barnes & Noble shop has a copy of the Deathwatch rpg manual, so I hope to get a glimpse inside to check out the pics for reference. Any more opinions? Thanks for the comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenley Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 I have a copy of the DW RPG book, and it shows mostly the chapter icon pad trimmed in silver, but there is one that has 3 marines with chapter pad trimmed in gold, and several pictures that the chapter pad is trimmed in black. Also there is a picture of a Storm Wardens(what ever chapter the book designers made up) libriain, with both knee pads, collar of armour, and trim of chapter pad in chapter colours which would be blue So, you could do silver for one squad, black for another and gold for another. If you are going to do more than one squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grendellus Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 Thanks, Chenley! I stopped by B&N and seen the pictures you mentioned. Silver trim seems the way to go for standard Tactical marines. The Storm Warden Librarian does have blue as you've mentioned on parts of his armor. However, the standard Storm Warden has silver on his knee pads & lower legs. I wonder if the use of color may represent being a Specialist (i.e., a Librarian, rather than just being a Storm Warden). Having the collar, knee pads, and backpacks in the specialist colors may be intended. There is a picture of a Deathwatch Apothecary with a white knee pad & backpack. The Librarian did have blue on his backpack as well. Lastly, the Techmarine had a red kneepad and backpack. It would be a moot point to use black for a Chaplain, I suppose. There was a mention of incidental details and honors on the armor from the marines' home chapters (i.e., wolf skins, sword w/ wings, etc.). Another interesting tidbit was the mention of the "Black Shields". Essentially, they are marines who have joined from chapters that have been utterly decimated. They are the last of their chapters, and they wear no markings as a sign of their chapter's death. Those would be easy to model! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growler67 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 I wonder if the use of color may represent being a Specialist (i.e., a Librarian, rather than just being a Storm Warden). Having the collar, knee pads, and backpacks in the specialist colors may be intended. There is a picture of a Deathwatch Apothecary with a white knee pad & backpack. The Librarian did have blue on his backpack as well. Lastly, the Techmarine had a red kneepad and backpack. It would be a moot point to use black for a Chaplain, I suppose. There was a mention of incidental details and honors on the armor from the marines' home chapters (i.e., wolf skins, sword w/ wings, etc.). Another interesting tidbit was the mention of the "Black Shields". Essentially, they are marines who have joined from chapters that have been utterly decimated. They are the last of their chapters, and they wear no markings as a sign of their chapter's death. Those would be easy to model! The "blue" indicates a Librarian. In general their psycic hoods and tabbards are blue but with the DeathWatch Company colors being predominantly bblack, there are some alterations to the accepted Astartes color representations and patterns. Red for Techmarines fall into the same category. Honors, awards, campaign badges, and so on can be sculpted with GS or alternately represented by using Purity Seals. Though ones armor is ritually painted when one is inducted into the DeathWatch, any trinkets or totem items from ones Chapter of origin are allowed. That is why the Space Wolf is shown with a pelt and wolftooth talismans and such. The nature and identity of the Marine that serves is not wiped away when serving in the DW. Rather it is their individual nature that the DW draws it's purpose and strength from. Think of it like the X-Men or something similar. Each is an individual with the skills and characteristics from where they come (their special powers). A specialist in certain things or ways. However, as a member of the DW in concert with others from different facets of the Astartes, the collective team have much fewer weaknesses. A well rounded D&D party will survive much longer than one that is soley DPS, Tank or Mage. Throw in a Thief and a Healer to round things out and every facet of any potential enemy or puzzle can be solved and dealt with to the party or Kill-Teams betterment and the enemy's detriment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grendellus Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 Thanks for the confirmation, Growler67. I like the X-men/D&D party analogy. Too bad the current edition's command squad isn't like it used to be. I could have done an the specialists in one fell swoop: Librarian, Apothecary, Champion, Techmarine, Veteran Sgt, and Trooper. But my oath was for a Kill-team, so I guess I'll have to stick to a legal Tactical unit for now. Or Sternguard unit, I suppose. I really wasn't specific, and there is no legal Kill Team as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogan Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Always loved the Deathwatch - can't wait to see your fellows. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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