Glitch85 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Just wondering what make of brushes does everyone use, whether there are some to stay away from?? IM currently using some of the army painter range, they are pretty good but wondering if theres anything better? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220159-brushes/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJB Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 I use Winsor and Newton's Cotman series of brushes - the 00 brush is so much finer than the Citadel Fine Detail brush and I find the point lasts for much lnonger. As a result I find simple things like painting eyes so much easier. I only ever use the larger Citadel brushes for larger models or washes now Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220159-brushes/#findComment-2627637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glitch85 Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 Yeah ive just become aware of this range of brushes, im gonna check some out this week, i thought the army painter ones were better but they are just as bad as the gw brushes Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220159-brushes/#findComment-2633345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Noble Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 If you're REALLY serious about brushes and want to INVEST in some excellent ones, Winsor & Newton Series 7 Brushes are my first pick. The Winsor & Newton Artist's Watercolor Brushes would be my more economical second choice. Hope this helps. -J Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220159-brushes/#findComment-2635570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
amalric99 Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 If you want decent brushes you need Kolinsky Sable. They are more expensive but well worth it and will last a long time if you look after them. Winsor & Newton Series 7 are very nice, I've got a couple that are on the way out after about 3 years. (I don't paint a massive amount but they've had a good amount of use.) A lot of people say only buy these if you can pick them up and examine them in person. Allegedly the quality control has gone downhill and you hear of people getting dud ones. Raphael 8404 are excellent for me, they are a bit firmer than the W&N which I like. I tend to break these out if I'm working on a display piece. Rosemary & Co do a good range of Kolinsky Sable brushes. The series 33 are probably best for miniatures although the 22s are good as well. These are comparable to the W&N but an awful lot cheaper. Well worth checking out. If you invest in some decent brushes then it's worth getting something like Masters brush soap as well. Will keep your brushes working well. Some people use conditioner too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220159-brushes/#findComment-2635929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaz. Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 I´ve bought the Leonhardy Kappel Series Set a few months ago and i`me very happy with it. There are 5 brushes included (2,1,0,2/0,3/0) and i´ve got a good felling painting with them. Kappel Series Set Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220159-brushes/#findComment-2636938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Valerius Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 If you're REALLY serious about brushes and want to INVEST in some excellent ones, Winsor & Newton Series 7 Brushes are my first pick. The Winsor & Newton Artist's Watercolor Brushes would be my more economical second choice. Hope this helps. -J Are the prices on that page for real? I can't fathom ever spending $200 on a brush. That is simply unreal. imo, a "really good but expensive" brush is something like $30-50, not $200! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220159-brushes/#findComment-2636967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanV Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 I think that's a size 12 you're referring Bro Val. :) Probably good for a 100 size 0's. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220159-brushes/#findComment-2636994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Noble Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 I think that's a size 12 you're referring Bro Val. :) Probably good for a 100 size 0's. Absolutely. The ones on the top of the list are larger sizes which DO cost an arm and a leg, but the only people I can imagine buying them are artists creating watercolor artwork. I can't see buying a Series 7 brush larger than a #2 for ANY mini work. Even a Reaver titan would only see a #2 at best. -J Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220159-brushes/#findComment-2637147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Valerius Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 I have no frame of reference. Is there somewhere I can find a chart which shows me how big the various brush sizes are? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220159-brushes/#findComment-2637166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
amalric99 Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 I'll take some pictures later comparing the various brushes I have. Hopefully that will help :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220159-brushes/#findComment-2638592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boopmaster9000 Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Being involved in both the design and fine arts field, I have come across few who would argue against Kolinsky Sable brushes for the use of small scale miniature painting. And of course if the warhammer community had an almanac, the consensuses of the opinions regarding brushes will favor the selection of high quality Kolinksy Sable. Though those are the opinions of the avid painters, and veterans who have been in the hobby for quite some time. Acrylics can be harsh to Kolinsky, but if you maintain a proper adherence to brush care, Kolinsky brushes will out live most humanly possessions. Mind you, in my quest of answering this question over the years... It has always been a tale of "My Kolinsky Sable has last me 5-10+ years"... The other alternative to look for are Kolinsky/Synthetic blends. Synthetics that have a good snap and maintain their point is the kind of pedigree that they must attain to compete with pure Sable brushes. Windsor Newton - Escoda - Da Vinci are the most respected makers of brushes. Price points vary depending on which lines of brushes you're looking at; you're looking at a $5-15 USD retail for pure Kolinsky Sable. Don't forget to bear in mind a home cook who is only achieving 20% of potential of his kitchen-aid knife does not require a top of the line Forged blade, ground with the stone of bottom of some volcano, stropped with the most exotic cow hide, and buffed out with 1000000 man hours with ceramic shards. This metaphor applies to this in a sense that some painters don't require a brush hand made with each and individual hair carefully selected and placed in a corresponding spot to achieve that perfect point. Just consider what you need. EDIT: Link to large US art supply store showing the size comparision of brushes - http://www.dickblick.com/products/blick-ma...t-handle-round/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220159-brushes/#findComment-2638644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
amalric99 Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 So I took a quick picture to show the size of the different Kolinsky Sable brushes I own. Hopefully this will give some idea of the sizing, but it also shows that one manufacturers size 0 is not going to be the same as another manufacturers! 1: Rosemary & Co Series 33 - Size 0 2: Rosemary & Co Series 33 - Size 1 3: Rosemary & Co Series 33 - Size 2 4: Rosemary & Co Series 33 - Size 3 5: Winsor & Newton Series 7 - Size 000 6: Winsor & Newton Series 7 - Size 0 7: Winsor & Newton Series 7 - Size 1 8: Winsor & Newton Series 7 - Size 2 9: Raphael 8404 - Size 0 10: Raphael 8404 - Size 1 It's very much personal preference as to what size you use. I tend to use size 1 or 2 for most of my painting as I'm coming round to the school of thought that says use the bigger the brush the quicker the painting time. I will use size 0 for eyes, keep in mind that a good quality brush will have a very fine point. Anything smaller than a 0 and I find the paint dries to quickly on the brush. The only thing I use the 000 for is darklining in deep recesses where the sides of a wider brush would hit other parts of the model. YMMV ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220159-brushes/#findComment-2639854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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