shrike2214 Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Here's a question that has been burning in my mind for a few weeks now, back in 2006 (citation needed) Black Library set sale the SS Horus Heresy by the third book it looked as though it was just looking at being a five maby 6 book run. The question is, did BL see how well it took off and then just start running with it or was the idea always to create a whole new line of books set in that era. Personally i think that it was the former simply because the first 3 books focussed very intently on the Luna Wolves/Sons of Horus, it just so happens that this was around the time that the books gained a large popularity. Don't get me wrong and hang me by a cruciform im more than happy that they did continue because weve seen such delights at Legion, Thousand Sons and Fulgrim (and few misses like Decent of Angels & Fallen angels, both to do with the Dark Angles oddly enough) What are B&Cs thoughts on this? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220244-how-and-when-will-it-all-end/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 I'm fairly certain that the breadth of the series had been set before hand, but its never intended as a limited 6-novel run. Consider the release of the Horus Heresy card game and the Collected Visions book; so much of the novel series picks out individual events, places, and names from those two products and effectively fills in the gaps from Visions that I find it difficult to believe that we were destined to see Horus' rise and that's it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220244-how-and-when-will-it-all-end/#findComment-2628895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashe Darke Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Something like the HH could never be covered in 6 books. I read something ages ago that there's supposed to be 42 books in total. No idea how true it is but I reckon we'll see at least 25. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220244-how-and-when-will-it-all-end/#findComment-2629037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roninman Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Something like the HH could never be covered in 6 books. I read something ages ago that there's supposed to be 42 books in total. No idea how true it is but I reckon we'll see at least 25. 42 books? That is simply too much and sounds almost like milking money out of customers. Of course if they will be good stories i dont complain but still... I think we are halfway there as of now. Around 25-30 books total. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220244-how-and-when-will-it-all-end/#findComment-2629057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brannick Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 If there are customers for the series then the authors could even write beyond the Siege of Terra. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220244-how-and-when-will-it-all-end/#findComment-2629091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrox Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 I think if you consider there are 18 Legions, and if you count books like anthologies and non Legion books like Mechanicum and Nemesis, then we are looking at al least 25 books Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220244-how-and-when-will-it-all-end/#findComment-2629092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Something like the HH could never be covered in 6 books. I read something ages ago that there's supposed to be 42 books in total. No idea how true it is but I reckon we'll see at least 25. 42 books? That is simply too much and sounds almost like milking money out of customers. Of course if they will be good stories i dont complain but still... I think we are halfway there as of now. Around 25-30 books total. If there's interest and people willing to spend money there is not a thing as too much. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220244-how-and-when-will-it-all-end/#findComment-2629128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrike2214 Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 Well apparantly the new HH book coming up Age of Darkness covers the 10 or so years between Drop Site Massacre to the siege of Terra so i think this year will be the beggining of the end so they may take it beyond the final battle Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220244-how-and-when-will-it-all-end/#findComment-2629287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashe Darke Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Well apparantly the new HH book coming up Age of Darkness covers the 10 or so years between Drop Site Massacre to the siege of Terra so i think this year will be the beggining of the end so they may take it beyond the final battle Not a chance, when First Heretic was announced I said something about maybe seeing the siege soon and Aaron said no way, we're miles away from that. There's 7 years between the two events and Dan has talked about new events on the same scale of Prospero in the works so we've got some pretty major events to see first. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220244-how-and-when-will-it-all-end/#findComment-2629418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrike2214 Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 hum i do wonder where they will take it i remember Dan also talking about some sort of Romeo + Juliet style story with two navigator houses one for Horus and one for The Emperor. I for one would probably read that lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220244-how-and-when-will-it-all-end/#findComment-2629511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A D-B Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 hum i do wonder where they will take it i remember Dan also talking about some sort of Romeo + Juliet style story with two navigator houses one for Horus and one for The Emperor. I for one would probably read that lol That was me, not Dan. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220244-how-and-when-will-it-all-end/#findComment-2629854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrike2214 Posted January 23, 2011 Author Share Posted January 23, 2011 Crist so it was mate many apologies. I knew i had heard it somewhere. Either way i think that would make for a great read and wouldn't mind seeing something like that Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220244-how-and-when-will-it-all-end/#findComment-2629857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sons of Horus Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Romance in 40k just doesn't seem to fit if you ask me. Even if the story is a tragedy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220244-how-and-when-will-it-all-end/#findComment-2630032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrike2214 Posted January 23, 2011 Author Share Posted January 23, 2011 I dunno if written properly with the right mix between love, tragedy and war I think it is doable. Like I say I would read it but there again I enjoy a wee bit of shakesperian verse and tragedy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220244-how-and-when-will-it-all-end/#findComment-2630055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Wilhelm Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 If there's interest and people willing to spend money there is not a thing as too much. Yep :lol: I am glad that BL have a comprehensive list of books which is getting bigger. I love the Heresy series! Sure some will be less than great, but that is always the case with any book a publisher might put out. If you don't want them, don't get them :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220244-how-and-when-will-it-all-end/#findComment-2630137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brannick Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 I like the idea mentioned within the 'other' thread in this board that the HH series should stop when the Emperor is placed on the Golden Throne and Abaddon runs off with bits and pieces of Horus. Another series could then begin covering The Scouring, would work for me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220244-how-and-when-will-it-all-end/#findComment-2630315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Whilst I would like to see the Scouring covered in some way I'm not keen to have a separate series devoted to it. 3 or 4 books to cover all of the valid events such as The Iron Cage, The Fall of Caliban etc. So long as it's NOT books endlessly droning on about the limitless heroism of the Ultramarines I don't care. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220244-how-and-when-will-it-all-end/#findComment-2630328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashe Darke Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 We've already had the Romeo + Juliet thing, it was blatantly Argel Tal and Aquillon ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220244-how-and-when-will-it-all-end/#findComment-2630495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XKhalilX Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 what would be interesting, at least to me, is doing post heresy. Discuss how the Imperium became the over paranoid organization it is, the formation of inquisition and sisters, etc. and most importantly, id love to hear discussion in the second founding and how certain astartes were formed as so and so chapter. i mean to hear how the mortifactors became and how the blood angels decide to break apart (a flesh tearer is obviously alot different then a BA or Angels Sanguine), how the dark angels coped and how each group on how they viewed the apparent "sin" of luther and so on. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220244-how-and-when-will-it-all-end/#findComment-2630509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ubermensch Commander Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 hum i do wonder where they will take it i remember Dan also talking about some sort of Romeo + Juliet style story with two navigator houses one for Horus and one for The Emperor. I for one would probably read that lol That was me, not Dan. Dear ADB, if you must do Romeo and Juliet, please have it end with ALL of them dying horribly...within the first few chapters. *HATE that damn story! ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220244-how-and-when-will-it-all-end/#findComment-2630528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrike2214 Posted January 23, 2011 Author Share Posted January 23, 2011 Really? im fairly sad and i like it, my fiancée does worry sometimes about how much i like Shakespeare Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220244-how-and-when-will-it-all-end/#findComment-2630558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khestra the Unbeheld Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 hum i do wonder where they will take it i remember Dan also talking about some sort of Romeo + Juliet style story with two navigator houses one for Horus and one for The Emperor. I for one would probably read that lol That was me, not Dan. Dear ADB, if you must do Romeo and Juliet, please have it end with ALL of them dying horribly...within the first few chapters. *HATE that damn story! :P Titus Andronicus is a better tale, but I don't think there's really a way to shoehorn that one into an HH story. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220244-how-and-when-will-it-all-end/#findComment-2630916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razhbad Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Not long after the first 3 books were released i went to a book signing (think it was games day) and spoke to the first 3 authors about the series. They all thought that every legion was going to get at least one book, now that was awhile ago so things may have changed. But we still have three major battles that need to be covered in the HH series (Signus, Calth & Terra), not to mention other important tales around this time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220244-how-and-when-will-it-all-end/#findComment-2631420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serenad Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Well, Personally i would not call it milking if they keep delivering what the people want, and imho they keep doing just that. Only books i havent devoured regarding the HH era is the Alpha legion book, and the latest, burning of prospero. both of which i think spent to much time on stuff that was of little interesst and lesser importance to the actualy main story. but as for 42 books.... hell give me 142 as long as they are good. ill pay Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220244-how-and-when-will-it-all-end/#findComment-2631468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider-75 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 it's one of these things where the potential storyscape is so vast that anything could be going on anywhere in the galaxy. we might see a dwindle in the "big" events but there is so much possibility for telling less major or minor events that they can write as many books as they want. yes the major pull for a lot of people is what happened to the various legions, but there is the imperial army to consider as well. the novel "Legion" focused around them, with the Alpha Legion sneaking away in the background, but that was one of only countless possibilities. i for one say why not. i enjoy a good read of any sort of book. if it so happens to be a heresy era black library book then so be it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220244-how-and-when-will-it-all-end/#findComment-2631608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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