Debauchery101 Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 so i finally got my hands on a copy of the codex and am pretty wowed by the extensive selection of nasty wargear and how i will fight it. one piece has me somewhat confused. the cruicible of malediction. my wondering is if this affects units that are fearless. ie demon princes, special characters, librarian dread gargantuan psykers and anything else that is considered fearless and a psyker. most previous descriptions of wargear would specifically state that if the unit is fearless then theyare unaffected by it but this does not say that in any way. i would be pretty mad if my two demon princes with warp time decided to go "raving mad" and go down as casualties to such a comparably inexspensive wargear item. anyone have some info to expand and further clarify this item? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phosis Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Funny story for you, sir. I lost 3 of my army's 5 psykers to this piece of wargear recently. Yes, it works on fearless units if it gets activated and they're in range.. EDIT: A note for anyone else reading this besides the OP.. here's an example. Eldrad would be affected by the Crucible. If he's within 12" of the Avatar he is now fearless.. He's forced to take a leadership test anyways. It's not a pinning check or a morale check, so keep that in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 so i finally got my hands on a copy of the codex and am pretty wowed by the extensive selection of nasty wargear and how i will fight it. one piece has me somewhat confused. the cruicible of malediction. my wondering is if this affects units that are fearless. ie demon princes, special characters, librarian dread gargantuan psykers and anything else that is considered fearless and a psyker. most previous descriptions of wargear would specifically state that if the unit is fearless then theyare unaffected by it but this does not say that in any way. i would be pretty mad if my two demon princes with warp time decided to go "raving mad" and go down as casualties to such a comparably inexspensive wargear item. anyone have some info to expand and further clarify this item? CCrucible of Malediction: ... Every psycher within 3d6" of the banner must pass a Leadership test or ... FEARLESS...Fearless troops automatically pass all Morale and Pinning tests they are required to take, and... There's nothing in the FAQ, so I would say - "ouch". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavement Artist Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 It's a characteristic test not a morale check or the like so yes you do have to test. It's 12 years old anyway. A nasty if slightly dusty piece of wargear. It's one of those trinkets you take that never work in 8 out of 10 games but you keep bringing just for those few times when you bomb someones seers council Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debauchery101 Posted January 23, 2011 Author Share Posted January 23, 2011 well thanks for the info i just wanted to make sure i was reading it right. well one more reason not to play CSM. ill just stick with demons since they arent psykers. i seem to have much more success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 It's a characteristic test not a morale check or the like so yes you do have to test. It's 12 years old anyway. A nasty if slightly dusty piece of wargear. It's one of those trinkets you take that never work in 8 out of 10 games but you keep bringing just for those few times when you bomb someones seers council You do know its from the new version yes? This version is not even half a year old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBMAKENZIE Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 It's a characteristic test not a morale check or the like so yes you do have to test. It's 12 years old anyway. A nasty if slightly dusty piece of wargear. It's one of those trinkets you take that never work in 8 out of 10 games but you keep bringing just for those few times when you bomb someones seers council You do know its from the new version yes? This version is not even half a year old. Isnt it the same as the old one? You can bomb Furioso Librarians now :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Isnt it the same as the old one? You can bomb Furioso Librarians now ^_^ Can you though? Is the Crucible of Malediction a 'psychic purpose'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBMAKENZIE Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Isnt it the same as the old one? You can bomb Furioso Librarians now <_< Can you though? Is the Crucible of Malediction a 'psychic purpose'? Q: A Furioso Librarian counts as being Leadership 10 forall psychic purposes. What exactly does this mean? (p29) A: It means that for Psychic tests, for using a psychic hood and for being affected by psychic powers, special rules or wargear that affect psykers and require a Leadership value, they are counted as being Leadership 10. It is wargear that affects psykers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavement Artist Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 It's a characteristic test not a morale check or the like so yes you do have to test. It's 12 years old anyway. A nasty if slightly dusty piece of wargear. It's one of those trinkets you take that never work in 8 out of 10 games but you keep bringing just for those few times when you bomb someones seers council You do know its from the new version yes? This version is not even half a year old. The crucible is exactly the same as in the last codex. Yes you cam bomb Furiosos. Theyre a psyker. If they fail the test then they get taken off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlakir Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 It's a characteristic test not a morale check or the like so yes you do have to test. It's 12 years old anyway. A nasty if slightly dusty piece of wargear. It's one of those trinkets you take that never work in 8 out of 10 games but you keep bringing just for those few times when you bomb someones seers council You do know its from the new version yes? This version is not even half a year old. The crucible is exactly the same as in the last codex. Yes you cam bomb Furiosos. Theyre a psyker. If they fail the test then they get taken off. More or less. The old one had unlimited range, but would stop once a psyker died from it. The new one have limited range, but can "kill" all psykers that are within range. The old one also had som Ld modifiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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