Brom MKIV Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Greetings brothers. I am not a blood angels player, however my brother is, thus I come to you for advice and experience. If you were to run a DC unit along with a DC dread in a stormraven...i.e. a Deathraven TM ;) which would you prefer and why: 6 DC, jps, 5 ccw/bps, th- 240 pts. (17 attacks, 23 on the charge) -OR- 9 DC, 7 relentless bolters, 2 pw/bps, th- 240 pts. (20 attacks, 29 on the charge) I ask because although the second unit seems stronger on paper, this does not account for rage, threat radius etc. Also any other builds you would prefer over either of these? Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Captain Lucius Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 The one im thinking of doing myself is 10 DC w/ Fist + Bolter, Lemartes and then a DC Dread with talons in tow. A fist is all you'll really need for DC as with the No. of attacks they're putting out with lemartes' power weapon any foe should be killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Adams Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 i run em in every list, my setup is - --Stormraven -----Extra armor, Assault Cannon, Multi Melta --10x Death Co. -----1x Power Fist, 3x Power Weapons, 6x BP/CCW's ---DC Dread -----Blood Talons accompanied by either a chappie/reclusiarch/lemartes depending on the points i have, usually a chappie this squad does work, not too much, not too little, just right. It works so well for me that i build every list around it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vharing Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 I would take 5 DC wJP possibly 2 PW and lemartes. DC dread with blood talons. Dump them as far into enemy lines as possible and bug the raven out of there right away. The DC would agro the enemy and give them something to shoot besides the raven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brom MKIV Posted January 23, 2011 Author Share Posted January 23, 2011 Thank you. It seems that either one has its merits and are equally viable. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Kezef Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Depends on the enemy, a static gun;ine force like the Guard favours a 10 man DC as they can't really get away from you. On the other hand Jump pack DC can get a real mobility advantage and makes it harder to lure them. I don't use DC but if I did I'd go for a JP squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igotsmeakabob!! Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 My favorite config is Lemartes, 1TH/Bolter 1PW, 4 Bolters, 4 CCW's. I can *never* justify 15pts for a 1W Jump Pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leksington Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 I can *never* justify 15pts for a 1W Jump Pack. I'd tend to agree. Especially in this case since you already spent 200 on thier transportation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igotsmeakabob!! Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 I don't include SangPriests in that 15pt rule because they, at least, are controllable and are ICs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Adams Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 I can *never* justify 15pts for a 1W Jump Pack. I'd tend to agree. Especially in this case since you already spent 200 on thier transportation. yeah, i never put JP's on DC, especially if i have a stormraven, too many points. I'd rather have more death co. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Captain Lucius Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Take this: Reclusiarch w/ Jump Pack, Infernus Pistol 30 Death Company w/ Jump Packs, 23 Thunder Hammers, 1 Power Weapon Scout squad w/ Camo Cloaks, Sniper Rifles :P :wallbash: :thanks: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Kezef Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Take this: Reclusiarch w/ Jump Pack, Infernus Pistol 30 Death Company w/ Jump Packs, 23 Thunder Hammers, 1 Power Weapon Scout squad w/ Camo Cloaks, Sniper Rifles ;) :P :P With a few Bike squads I'll make sure that DC horde never gets a single turn of CC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shatter Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 heh.. Stupidest list/loadout The Sanguinor 30 jpDC + Lemartes with TH & PW on every model. You choose based on CC opponent which weapon to use and it's cheaper than 2 TH per model (without the sanguinor) yet with the same number of attacks courtesy of the Sanguinor's aura. (+5 DC dreads) Scoring? Meh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Adams Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 You don't need scoring units when there's nothing left to kill.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague Angel Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 i run em in every list, my setup is - --Stormraven -----Extra armor, Assault Cannon, Multi Melta --10x Death Co. -----1x Power Fist, 3x Power Weapons, 6x BP/CCW's ---DC Dread -----Blood Talons accompanied by either a chappie/reclusiarch/lemartes depending on the points i have, usually a chappie this squad does work, not too much, not too little, just right. It works so well for me that i build every list around it. That works for you, eh? That's very very close to what I was considering running once I have a Stormraven model. The only difference is here: 1x Powerfist, 3x Power Weapons --> 1x Thunder Hammer, 1x Power Weapon, 1x plasma pistol Which shaves me 10 points off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamwulf Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 10 DC sans Jump Packs seems to be the way to go in a Thunder Duck with the DC Dread of course. A power weapon, and maybe a Thunderhammer or 'Fist to round out the squad. As noted, the number of attacks generated makes up for the lack of more power weapons. Though maybe one more wouldn't hurt. If you go the Jump Pack route, then Lemartes does seem like an attractive choice, though he seems a bit on the expensive side for what he can do. /shrug One of the things I've read about (haven't tried yet) is the Sanguinary Guard with a Sanguinary Priest+Jump Pack in a Storm Raven. They both cost about the same amount of points, and they both will kill just about anything they come into contact with. It could be really fun using two Storm Ravens- one loaded out with all things Death Company, and the other one with all things Sanguinary and a Libby Dread. Hmmmm... over 1000 points... then you could load out four more Assault Squads with Jump Packs to make an interesting 2000 point list... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Quick Question for the DC+Stormraven combo. How many people are planning to paint a Storm Raven black to match their DC (or white if playing one of the White DC chapters)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Adams Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Quick Question for the DC+Stormraven combo. How many people are planning to paint a Storm Raven black to match their DC (or white if playing one of the White DC chapters)? i will be rockin the black Raven when mine comes in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Adams Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 i run em in every list, my setup is - --Stormraven -----Extra armor, Assault Cannon, Multi Melta --10x Death Co. -----1x Power Fist, 3x Power Weapons, 6x BP/CCW's ---DC Dread -----Blood Talons accompanied by either a chappie/reclusiarch/lemartes depending on the points i have, usually a chappie this squad does work, not too much, not too little, just right. It works so well for me that i build every list around it. That works for you, eh? That's very very close to what I was considering running once I have a Stormraven model. The only difference is here: 1x Powerfist, 3x Power Weapons --> 1x Thunder Hammer, 1x Power Weapon, 1x plasma pistol Which shaves me 10 points off. yeah, it works real well for me, i build every list around that one one unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igotsmeakabob!! Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Quick Question for the DC+Stormraven combo. How many people are planning to paint a Storm Raven black to match their DC (or white if playing one of the White DC chapters)? Considering that I'll end up with 3 SRs (one already valk converted, two actual), I'm painting the first one I buy Death Co. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpWalker Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 I'd would paint mine white to match my DC but the SR counts as a heavy support opt. So I'm not sure. If left red I can use it for transporting anything without it looking out of place. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 I'd would paint mine white to match my DC but the SR counts as a heavy support opt. So I'm not sure. If left red I can use it for transporting anything without it looking out of place. :) this is what I'm thinking too. I will mostly use it to transport DC, but I don't want to have to buy 2 so I can have 1 for the DC and one for whoever else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelus Mortifer Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Planning on getting 2, so one red and one black... but... with the new Dread kit out also, the first will have to be black as I have been running some conversion ideas for a second DC Dread with Talons... :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Both of my Stormravens are black. I rarely use them for DC though - I just like the color. G ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 About the squad's build - I think it really depends on what else you are fielding. If you have a DoA style army then I'd go with jump packs and take Lemartes... Otherwise I like Grizzly's unit. G ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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