Fire Angels color scheme

[Gree]

Looking over IA: 9 I'm confused, is the Fire angels color scheme silver or white? I know the original Badab War material had them with white and red armor, but with the new IA it's hard to tell for me.

[Vodunius]

Silver, some people claim they are white and just look silver because of a filter - but the white shield markings on the predator, rhino and thunderhawk say otherwise - same goes for the Marines Errant. Edited January 23, 2011 by Vodunius

[Iron Father Ferrum]

I painted mine silver rather than white. In heraldic terms, the two are interchangeable; silver in much easier to paint than white; and there's always the callout in their mini-Index article in IA9 about how they may not be the first chapter to carry the same or similar name/livery. Therefore, the precedent exists that they can be done as either silver or white and still be proper Fire Angels.

[Gree]

I painted mine silver rather than white. In heraldic terms, the two are interchangeable; silver in much easier to paint than white; and there's always the callout in their mini-Index article in IA9 about how they may not be the first chapter to carry the same or similar name/livery. Therefore, the precedent exists that they can be done as either silver or white and still be proper Fire Angels.

 

I'm sorry for the late reply, but would this apply to other chapters? For example I'm having a rather hard time painting white for my Praetors.

[Cage304]

In heraldic terms Argent (silver) is actually used for White and Or (Gold) is used for Yellow. So you could paint your Praetors in Silver and claim it was a choice that was made at the founding of your chapter. Alternately you could not say anything about the change and leave it to the mysteries of 40K (ie when the Wolves of Fenris went from Grey to a Light Blue)

[Pulse]

Silver and Red.

[Vodunius]

In heraldic terms Argent (silver) is actually used for White and Or (Gold) is used for Yellow. So you could paint your Praetors in Silver and claim it was a choice that was made at the founding of your chapter.

 

It doesn't even need to be from the founding of the chapter, when GW switched the smurfs 2nd company's trims from yellow to gold they said it was down to a new captains re-interpretation of the Codex (the Codex does specifically urge commanders to periodically alter their chapters markings to confuse the enemy)

[Yogi]

I thought it was interesting that howling griffons who are a little garish had night (ie black) camo leaving only the shoulder pads yellow/red.. This is another option/alternative to painting a hard colour.

[Gree]

In heraldic terms Argent (silver) is actually used for White and Or (Gold) is used for Yellow. So you could paint your Praetors in Silver and claim it was a choice that was made at the founding of your chapter. Alternately you could not say anything about the change and leave it to the mysteries of 40K (ie when the Wolves of Fenris went from Grey to a Light Blue)

 

By Praetors I mean these guys.

 

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Praetors_of_Orpheus

 

I've painted up a squad of them and found white to be rather difficult to paint. And yes, I've searched many guides on the internet. I'm not he best of painters and I find painting metallic colors such as silver to be much easier than white.

[Daylight]

In heraldic terms Argent (silver) is actually used for White and Or (Gold) is used for Yellow. So you could paint your Praetors in Silver and claim it was a choice that was made at the founding of your chapter. Alternately you could not say anything about the change and leave it to the mysteries of 40K (ie when the Wolves of Fenris went from Grey to a Light Blue)

 

By Praetors I mean these guys.

 

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Praetors_of_Orpheus

 

I've painted up a squad of them and found white to be rather difficult to paint. And yes, I've searched many guides on the internet. I'm not he best of painters and I find painting metallic colors such as silver to be much easier than white.

As do most people ;) . What I would say is, if you use a very light metallic color (like mithril silver or lighter), then it could easily be explained away as the white armor just being polished or something like that. Besides, not to sound cliche, but they're your minis, you can paint them however you feel best suits you and your army.

[Gree]

Well yes, I know I can paint them however I wish, but I like things to be fluffy and match up with the background for my armies.

[Daylight]

Well yes, I know I can paint them however I wish, but I like things to be fluffy and match up with the background for my armies.

Well, if you want a 100%, perfect, fluff accurate army, with no room for interpretation, then white is the way to go. If you want to ease painting, then use mithril silver or a similar near white metallic color.

[Gree]

Well I'm mainly looking for a justifcation of having silver if what is said about herdralic terms (yellow/gold white/silver) being true.

[Daylight]

Well, if you want info to back up what Cage304 said, then heres a couple of links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argent

http://www.internationalheraldry.com/ (scroll down to the tincture part of the page)

 

"In heraldry, argent is the tincture of silver, and belongs to the class of light tinctures, called "metals". It is very frequently depicted as white and usually considered interchangeable with it."

 

So based on that along with what Vodunius said about slightly changing chapter markings and such, I think its safe to say that a light silver would be a perfectly acceptable and fluff accurate color.