Lestat Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Hi folks, I recently ordered some parts from Scibor Miniatures and although I have nothind but praise for their level of sculpting, there seems to be some level of size discrepancy between their sizing and GW's. For example, I recently ordered some parts to build a squad of Custodes. The conical helmets are not too much of a problen - a small amount of filing and sculpting a neck onto the helm is all that is needed. However, the shoulder pads are HUGE compared to GW's. They would fit better on a terminator than a PA Marine. The pad I chose for the SGT of the squad simply engulfs his whole arm -you can just about see his hand sticking out from underneath. Now, before anyone else suggests it, no - I did not order Terminator pads by mistake. The inner part of the pad is simply too small to fit a Terminators arm. Has anyone else had a problem like this with Scibors range of bitz? Don't get me wrong, I'm not bad-mouthig Scibor, I'm just wondering if anyone else had noticed a slight size variation in the bitz. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220365-scibor-miniatures/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanhausen Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 I agree. Its not a matter of scale... but more of how the proportion their models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220365-scibor-miniatures/#findComment-2631769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lestat Posted January 24, 2011 Author Share Posted January 24, 2011 I agree. Its not a matter of scale... but more of how the proportion their models. I guess it means that their models are more accurately proportioned/scaled then GW's. Must be brilliant if anyone is planning a truescale army. Oh well, guess I'll either have to order more shoulder pads (I was planning on using one Scibor one and one GW pad on each custodes) or try and scale up some of GW's pads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220365-scibor-miniatures/#findComment-2631995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanhausen Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Bad wording I guises...I mean they are the same scale but different proportion. Scibor pads and shins are much bigger. Still, the contrast might look good :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220365-scibor-miniatures/#findComment-2632368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lestat Posted January 24, 2011 Author Share Posted January 24, 2011 I've been working on a couple of GW pads trying to get them bulked up a bit to a similar size as the Scibor ones. I think with a little GS and plasti-card, they won't look too bad - hopefully. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220365-scibor-miniatures/#findComment-2632382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XKhalilX Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 lestat, i was thinking of ordering scibor shoulder pads: http://www.sciborminiatures.com/en_,shop.p...lderpads_01.jpg im not sure which ones you ordered, but exactly how much larger are they? are they a pain to deal with? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220365-scibor-miniatures/#findComment-2636385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lestat Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 lestat, i was thinking of ordering scibor shoulder pads: http://www.sciborminiatures.com/en_,shop.p...lderpads_01.jpg im not sure which ones you ordered, but exactly how much larger are they? are they a pain to deal with? You will see a noticable difference in size if you use a mixture of Scibor and GW's pads. The Scibor pads are probably closer in size to a Terminator shoulder pad. I ordered these pads from Scibor: http://www.sciborminiatures.com/en_,shop.php?art=998 I'm having great fun trying to bulk out the GW pads :cuss It's just going to take a little plasticard, some greenstuff and a lot of patience! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220365-scibor-miniatures/#findComment-2636437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XKhalilX Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 I think I'll take a pass then. I did find these guys: http://chapterhousestudios.com/webshop/ they may have something your looking for, they seem to cater specifically to GW style models Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220365-scibor-miniatures/#findComment-2636471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanhausen Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 They actually in court with GW for IP... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220365-scibor-miniatures/#findComment-2636725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XKhalilX Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 They actually in court with GW for IP... what is IP? whats its it all mean? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220365-scibor-miniatures/#findComment-2636850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmbattledSoul Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 intellectual property... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220365-scibor-miniatures/#findComment-2636855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XKhalilX Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 can you still order from chapterhouse? and I assume Forgeworld is owned by GW and that is why there allowed to do their thing? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220365-scibor-miniatures/#findComment-2636884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XKhalilX Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 can you still order from chapterhouse? and I assume Forgeworld is owned by GW and that is why there allowed to do their thing? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220365-scibor-miniatures/#findComment-2636898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lestat Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 can you still order from chapterhouse? and I assume Forgeworld is owned by GW and that is why there allowed to do their thing? Forgeworld is indeed part of GW, as is Black Library. If I remember correctly Black Flame was also something to do with Black Library........... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220365-scibor-miniatures/#findComment-2636914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Valerius Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 GW really should discover the joys of licensing their IP. Obviously there is a gap in their product line that they are unwilling or unable to fill (or companies such as Chapter House wouldn't exist). Rather than simply suing anyone who tries to fill it into oblivion (which makes them no money), why not license the IP for some amount of money... thus turning pure loss (legal fees in the lawsuits, and nothing to show for it) into gain? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220365-scibor-miniatures/#findComment-2636964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lestat Posted January 28, 2011 Author Share Posted January 28, 2011 GW really should discover the joys of licensing their IP. Obviously there is a gap in their product line that they are unwilling or unable to fill (or companies such as Chapter House wouldn't exist). Rather than simply suing anyone who tries to fill it into oblivion (which makes them no money), why not license the IP for some amount of money... thus turning pure loss (legal fees in the lawsuits, and nothing to show for it) into gain? Because to people like you and myself, that seems like a very simple answer. Yet GW will find some very convoluted excuse full of legal mumbo-jumbo as to why they can't. Even if they were to work in partnership and have several Forgewold style sister companies all under the GW banner, that would be better than suing left, right and charlie! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220365-scibor-miniatures/#findComment-2637744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
their kin Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 I'm pretty sure all of scibor's pads are terminator scale, lke he doesn't make anything else. Same goes for all of his conversion bits. Every instance I've seen of someone using them has been on a terminator sized model, which is why I bought them for my terminators (much as I wish I could do a whole army, twas not to be). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220365-scibor-miniatures/#findComment-2638454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfinger Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 yup, I had the same problem with some black templar ones I ordered; picture for size comparison; ashton Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220365-scibor-miniatures/#findComment-2640384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Captain Sharp Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Man those things are ginormous. Space Marine pads are already large enough. The only thong I'd put those on would be terminators. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220365-scibor-miniatures/#findComment-2641981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lestat Posted February 1, 2011 Author Share Posted February 1, 2011 yup, I had the same problem with some black templar ones I ordered; picture for size comparison; ashton Thats exactly the problems I'm having - they are just too large for PA marines. The ridge part of the pad gets in the way of any attempt to attach the backpack. I think I've come to the decision that I will keep the Scibor pads for Custodes Terminators (if I get around to building them) I'll just have to convert the pads for the PA Custodes or go woth the original idea of using Sanguinary Guard pads with any BA iconography removed. OH well, we live and learn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220365-scibor-miniatures/#findComment-2642390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverneil Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 They are too big for PA. However, they are great for termies but do need a bit of hollowing out to fit nicely. This is a WIP i'm doing at the moment. Havent made my mind up what he's gonna be yet, Lone wolf, wolf guard or wolf lord Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220365-scibor-miniatures/#findComment-2648800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lestat Posted February 7, 2011 Author Share Posted February 7, 2011 They are too big for PA. However, they are great for termies but do need a bit of hollowing out to fit nicely. This is a WIP i'm doing at the moment. Havent made my mind up what he's gonna be yet, Lone wolf, wolf guard or wolf lord He looks like a Wolf Guard to me. I guess I will have to do some Custodes Terminators in the future. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220365-scibor-miniatures/#findComment-2650214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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