A quick question

[thor1234]

if an enemy casts a psychic power at a unit/character with a Wolftail Talisman and you have a rune priest in the army, and you use the rune weapon to nulify it but fail can you then attempt the 5+ from the talisman?

 

thaks in advance brothers!

[Vassakov]

I would say yes, but only if the unit affected has a WTT in it and the Rune Priest is within 24". The effects are seperate, and so I'd say they stack.

[Schertenleib]

I would say yes, but only if the unit affected has a WTT in it and the Rune Priest is within 24". The effects are seperate, and so I'd say they stack.

 

This is how I understand it.

[nurglez]

yes, you can.

 

rune priest gives a dispel attempt when an enemy passes a psychic test to cast a power.

 

WTT helps stop a unit being affected by a power.

 

they happen at different "steps" so you can use both.

 

The main question is does several WTT's in a squad give you several WTT rolls, I would say no but its not clear heh.

[Demonslayer]

The main question is does several WTT's in a squad give you several WTT rolls, I would say no but its not clear heh.

 

I would say yes to that :) I just take all the WTT's I have in that squad and roll all the dice at once :P

[Vassakov]

The main question is does several WTT's in a squad give you several WTT rolls, I would say no but its not clear heh.

 

I would say not:

 

If a model or the unit he is with is affected by an enemy psychic power...

 

Codex: Space Wolves (Pg 62). The inclusion of the "with a unit" bit means that the whole unit takes one attempt to dispell, not each individual model.

 

Well, that's how I read it anyway - and it has precedent with most other rulings. But I'll quite happily have Grey Mage et al correct me. :)

[Schertenleib]

As they FAQ'ed the Rune Priests so you only got one roll to negate even with mulitiple Priests within 24", I would believe that the same logic would apply to the wolf tails.

[thor1234]

thanks brothers I wasn't too sure after a lengthly debate with my Xenos playing 'buddies' who got annoyed that I got 2 chances to dispel their psychic powers......

[Grizwald714]

But what if their r 2 units in. Combat say a unit of thunder wolves with a lord with wtt and a unit of grey hunters with a rune priest with wtt then would they both get to take the roll. This has come up several times especially when I play ba and get charged by that bastard mephiston and he say uses his power to double his strength so would both get to roll and if they do and say the wolf lord passes and the rune priest fails both his rolls what would happen. Would mephiston strike at double stength against the ghunters and not the twolves or would he strike at base strength against both.

[stinkenheim]

You wouldn't be able to stop mephiston's from augmenting his own capabilities with a wolf rail talisman as the power is not affecting the unit, it is affecting mephiston.

 

It's much like warp time (reroll hits and wounds iirc) doesn't affect the squad being attacked merely the model making the attacks.

 

You could try and stop them with a runic weapon but not wtt.

 

 

I also agree with other posters who say that only 1 wtt save per unit affected.

[Vassakov]

You wouldn't be able to stop mephiston's from augmenting his own capabilities with a wolf rail talisman as the power is not affecting the unit, it is affecting mephiston.

 

It's much like warp time (reroll hits and wounds iirc) doesn't affect the squad being attacked merely the model making the attacks.

 

You could try and stop them with a runic weapon but not wtt.

 

 

I also agree with other posters who say that only 1 wtt save per unit affected.

 

Quoted for truth. A Rune Priest can be used vs any psychic power within 24", regardless of what it does. A WTT only works against a power that is directly targeting that unit - for example, you can use a WTT when the Farseer tries to Doom your squad, but not if he Guides the Dark Reapers who have your men in their gunsights.

 

As an aside - What would people do if a template/blast psychic power was positioned in such a way that it hits multiple units that have a WTT? RaW, I'd say both get a roll to nulify, as both units are affected and it just says "nullify" not "the unit will be unaffected." Thoughts?

[stinkenheim]

I would play it that the unit that passed it's test is unaffected, one that didn't still takes the hits... But that's because it seems like an oversight by the designers.