ShinyRhino Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Hey all. I'm looking for some examples of how folks have modeled armor that has burst from the inside. Say, from mutations punching out through the plates, Xenos organisms popping out of a chest, etc. I've been looking for excuses to do some one-off projects as a break from my Ultramarines, and I was looking at making up a squad of Chaos Marines whose mutations have caused horns and spikes to grow out of their bodies, and burst through their armor. I'd like the damaged armor to still be there, though. Anyone done something similar, or have pics to show of such a modelling process? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220607-bursting-armorfrom-the-inside/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Sasha Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Never modelled what you've asked, but... My wife has given me a load of embossing foil, very thin sheet metal, that can be rubbed over textures, shaped etc; it makes great vehicle panels etc, as you can draw a line with a biro on one side, then the other side looks like an exhaust pipe ridge, or a conduit. Anyway...if you stab through it with various diameter objects, and varying profiles, blunt to pointy, you end up with various tear patterns, from stretched smooth conical, like bullet indentations, to corrugated tears with split flaps. I have modelled ruptured oil drums, shot-peppered doors and a few bent shields from this stuff, and may give you some ideas. You could certainly make a shoulder pad covering that fits exactly, but with a pushed-out tear, giving very fine detail. Standard art and craft shops will sell the sheets, plus starter sets including embossing tools, moulded texture templates etc. One of the more successful Dolls' House to Warhammer crossovers! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220607-bursting-armorfrom-the-inside/#findComment-2633945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanhausen Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Another option might be... - Do the damage to the armour with drill or blade (CAREFUL KIDS!)... and don't leave the edges to clean - Small triangles of plasticard stuck around the hole, like a fence so to speak. If you plan on something BIG, like vehicles, I'd go for GS. BTW, old plague marines (monopose) would be the idea of what you want to do? Broken armour with bloated belies... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220607-bursting-armorfrom-the-inside/#findComment-2634543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinyRhino Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 Commander Sasha, that's a brilliant idea. I'll look into it! I'm aimingless for Nurgle, and more for Tzeentch. Think "A horn just grew out of my forehead in a matter of seconds, and popped right out of my faceplate!". Another option I'd thought of was to indeed drill a hole in the body part I wanted "burst." Insert the horn/spike/blade into the hole, and then fill the rim with a ring of Greenstuff, leaving some above the level of the armor plate. Then use small shards of thin card glued around the area, and over the GS ring. This would provide the bend and lift for the shattered edges. Then use Brown Stuff and sandpaper to blend the back edges of the card into the intact armor. Even if I never complete the project, this is somehting I think I might have to try just because! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220607-bursting-armorfrom-the-inside/#findComment-2634777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid Zaku Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Okay, here's a tip I used for a bad mold. WARNING: THESE TIPS INVOLVE SHARP STUFF AND HOT STUFF. DON'T PERFORM THIS WITHOUT PARENTAL SUPERVISION. (that oughta shut up the lawyers) Also, these tips will only work for snap-together parts like chest armor or tank parts. This cannot be used for solid parts such as legs, arms, bolters, etc. 1. Preheat your oven to 250 Degrees. 2. Drill a hole into your model where the center of the 'burst' will be. 3. Cut some straight lines a few mm outwards, creating a star however you want. 4. Place your part on an aluminum-lined baking pan and bake the part in the oven for 10 minutes 5. After the piece has baked, carefully remove the part (gloves are a strong recommendation) and use a small pair of pliers to pull open the hot parts to whatever amount of 'openness' you want and hold them open for a moment to allow the 'shard' to settle. Repeat. If the plastic becomes too immovable, wait for the piece to completely cool, then repeat step 4. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220607-bursting-armorfrom-the-inside/#findComment-2635454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vairocanum Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 i think this tutorial would work for the spikes (and the horns if they were small enough) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220607-bursting-armorfrom-the-inside/#findComment-2635760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debauchery101 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 ya know i was about to just make a small pictorial for you but i cant get my camera to focus well enough to show the steps. but anyways heres how i do it. 1- mix green stuff, favoring more blue to get a more firm setting, let it set for about 15 minutes 2-choose or make your horns/spikes. i usually scavenge from marine heads or trophy racks 3- cut to size and orientation of the spikes for the location 4-glue in place or pin and glue for large horns 5-roll your green stuff into a small round length, depending on the area your putting this horn it could be like mechanical pencil lead thickness or thick as a bolter barrel 6-encircle the base of your horn with as much of the rolled out green stuff as needed. 7- use your basic gw style sculpting tool's flat shovel looking side to flatten the GS into the armor. to make this look like its bursting out do not flatten out to make the green stuff appear too concave 8-now for the gs touching the horn. try to flatten it out working upwardss and trying to thin the GS at the very edge. making this top edge of the Gs somewhat uneven around the horn. 9-let GS sit some more about 5-10 minutes. 10- on the top edge of the GS cut small "v" shaped notches out with your knife to make the top edge look jagged, it really helps to have the GS pretty firm at this point 11- now taking your knife or other really small tool work it behind the top edges of the greenstuff and bend the edges slightly out to get the final bursting/metal flaring look. again im sorry i couldnt get some pictures but if this doesnt help try posting some pics and maybe we can give you some points to what you can already produce. i just read your comment on not trying to look as much nurglesk as you want a more tzeentch look i would say they might have more the horns/spikes melding with the armor and flesh Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220607-bursting-armorfrom-the-inside/#findComment-2637660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Bjoern Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 I´ve not done this with a PA but with a vehicle. The technic would be the same. http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x120/DarkBjoern/DarkBjoerns%20Chaos/Night%20Lords/NightLordsRhinooftheCursedWIP01.jpg http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x120/DarkBjoern/DarkBjoerns%20Chaos/Night%20Lords/NightLordsRhinooftheCursedWIP02.jpg http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x120/DarkBjoern/DarkBjoerns%20Chaos/Night%20Lords/NightLordsRhinooftheCursedWIP03.jpg I drilled holes through the armour and used a cutter kniff to frazzle the edges Then i glued the spikes in from the inside. Basicly this should work for a PA as well Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220607-bursting-armorfrom-the-inside/#findComment-2638074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanhausen Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Looks good ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220607-bursting-armorfrom-the-inside/#findComment-2638675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImperialReaper Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 I´ve not done this with a PA but with a vehicle. The technic would be the same.http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x120/DarkBjoern/DarkBjoerns%20Chaos/Night%20Lords/NightLordsRhinooftheCursedWIP01.jpg http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x120/DarkBjoern/DarkBjoerns%20Chaos/Night%20Lords/NightLordsRhinooftheCursedWIP02.jpg http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x120/DarkBjoern/DarkBjoerns%20Chaos/Night%20Lords/NightLordsRhinooftheCursedWIP03.jpg I drilled holes through the armour and used a cutter kniff to frazzle the edges Then i glued the spikes in from the inside. Basicly this should work for a PA as well I admit this is me beefing on a very high level but: The claws are coming from the inside - but the hole and the fazzles look like something pennetrated the tank from the outside. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220607-bursting-armorfrom-the-inside/#findComment-2639722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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