Siege40k Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 UPDATED!!! Name: Sky Breakers Founding: 16th founding, 500.M34 (more exact date will come as I develop the chapter) Gene-Seed: Sanguinius' gene seed, through the Angels Encarmine. Like their direct parent chapter the Breakers DC is relatively large at any given point. Homeworld: The Pinnacle (Fortress Monastery) Cathal Majorca, Cathal System, Segmentum Pacificus (distant reaches)(on a map it is 'close' to Macharia) Origins: Founded during a time of relative peace within the Ultima Segmentum, the first Chapter Master took the nascent chapter to the edges of the Segmentum Pacificus to find a homeworld. The decisions for this long, arduous journey were many, but it is rumored that being so close to Baal had profound effects on the newly inducted Astartes and many recruits were put down before they had a chance to become full Astartes. The documented decision for the move is scrolled onto a beautifully crafted Directive from the Administratum. It is enshrined within the Fortress Monastery's Inner Sanctum where it and the rest of the Chapters relic's lie awaiting battle or reverance. Cathal Majorca was the largest but least populated world in the Cathal System and was originally scouted out by an Imperial Navy Attache who was familiar with the Segmentum Pacificus. The distance was relatively short to Macharia, and other re-supply positions and forgeworlds. It also offered a strategic base of opperations as it lay just on the flank of a major warp route. Cathal Majorca is a Feral World comprised of rocky crags, and large bodies of water. About 85% of the planet is oceans, the other 15% is made up of rocky, mountainous islands. The polar ice caps have melted, flooding the planet and now numerous ruins and hidden treasures lie at the bottom of the oceans. Inhabitants live in small, island settlements and struggle with natural predators, intense weather conditions, and disease to survive. The Fortress Monastery of the Chapter is on an island in the Northern Hemisphere that is only rumored whispers of the local populace. Each archepelago has its own words and names for the Astartes who sometimes come to visit and take the most worthy amongst them, but they are all seen as spirits of the God-Emperor. The Chaplains have spent decades slowly indoctrinating the locals into the Imperial Cult, this helps to transition the recruits into the ranks of the Astartes. Beliefs: (I will need some help here) I would like them to be a very strongly faithful chapter. Lectitio divinitatus devout. A good example is Soalm. I would like to put a bit of distance in to Sanguinius. The chapter has tried to deal with their gene curse by turning towards salvation from the emperor and trying to distance themselves from their birth rights. It has not worked, but they try. (what do you guys think) Or maybe they focus on a different aspect of sanguinius. Their world is certainly opposite of Baal, so I think that has a bit to do with it. They are also very artistically inclined and The Pinnacle is a treasure trove of art, music, and culture brought from all around the Segementum and beyond. The wargear of the Blood Hounds is lavishly decorated and well kept. Motto: (I am open to suggestions) Two I have so far. Oderint Dum Metuant! - Let them hate, so long as they fear! Or Ex Coelis!- From the Clouds History: (soon) Thats it for now, more to come once some of this gets edited. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220646-ia-beginnings/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heru Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 The problem with the name War Hounds, is that it was the original name of the World Eaters Legion, before Angron was rediscovered and the Legion was renamed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220646-ia-beginnings/#findComment-2634238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siege40k Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 Weeeeellllll.....didn't know that. Then...here is my idea and hopefully you all can help out. I picture a Chapter that was created in response to predictions of a massive Waaagh in some part of one of the segmentums (not sure which one). The chapter was created from Sanguinius' gene seed, and focuses on brutal response tactics to the brutality the orks utilize. They are well equipped but are pretty much 'stuck in' once again in their home system where another massive Waaagh has crashed face first into the chapter. Kind of a history repeats itself story. Orks as the main enemies because i'm tired of the ad-mech, and chaos and nids getting all the fun. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220646-ia-beginnings/#findComment-2634243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octavulg Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Canes Belli should be War Hounds/Dogs. Or so Grey Mage told me once. :P Considering most of the records of the traitors were probably destroyed, them being the War Hounds would be survivable. Though the Warhound is also an Imperial Titan. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220646-ia-beginnings/#findComment-2634245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightrawenII Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 I picture a Chapter that was created in response to predictions of a massive Waaagh in some part of one of the segmentums (not sure which one). It takes 55 years to grown enough gene-seed for Chapter creation. Add here training, equipment-gathering and need of experience from actual combat and you are looking at century or so. It will far easier to raise 10+ of IG regiments and ask for help from already existing Chapters. The chapter was created from Sanguinius' gene seed, and focuses on brutal response tactics to the brutality the orks utilize. The same can be said about White Scars and Iron Hands. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220646-ia-beginnings/#findComment-2634491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Debonair Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 The chapter was created from Sanguinius' gene seed, and focuses on brutal response tactics to the brutality the orks utilize. The same can be said about White Scars and Iron Hands. Apart from the geneseed being Sanguinius, obviously. ;) But if writing BA prove problematic, you've always got the Khan/Manus options. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220646-ia-beginnings/#findComment-2634547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishida Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Or Ultramarines... 95% or more of the Astartes are of Ultramarines stock, and they can be plenty brutal and fierce. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220646-ia-beginnings/#findComment-2634557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telveryon Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Or Ultramarines... 95% or more of the Astartes are of Ultramarines stock, and they can be plenty brutal and fierce. That's quite a gross overestimation of Ultramarine gene-seed prevalence. It's more like 60-65%, with the Imperial Fists has around 15% of the Geneseed, if memory serves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220646-ia-beginnings/#findComment-2634567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heru Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Or Ultramarines... 95% or more of the Astartes are of Ultramarines stock, and they can be plenty brutal and fierce. That's quite a gross overestimation of Ultramarine gene-seed prevalence. It's more like 60-65%, with the Imperial Fists has around 15% of the Geneseed, if memory serves. This last piece of evidence is particularly compelling as owing to certain endemic biogenetic difficulties, the White Scars' gene-seed has historically been one of the rarest employed in the creation of new Space Marine Chapters, with less than a tenth of current Adeptus Astartes units owing their origins to the White Scars bloodline. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220646-ia-beginnings/#findComment-2634761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siege40k Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 I say Sanguinius because I would like to also play my DIY chapter as Blood Angels. My local meta has me being the only one who plays them, wolves, ultra's, sallies, and da's rule the space marine armies around here. I also want the BA because I think the curse they have is an interesting plot device because you could have a magnificent hero who goes total crazy. I also figured the '55 years' thing would come up. Since portents and predictions are important to the Imperium I was thinking of having them placed on a particular planet because of a prediction of a Waaggghhh. I agree they shouldn't be created because of said Waaggghhh and I see that justification now. So they can be part of xx founding and then placed strategically by the administratum or even the chapter master (because if I read the DIY stuff correctly the first Chapter Master chooses the home planet if any). This would be another reason to be from Sanguinius' gene seed because of the visions and predictions. Would the idea of a new found chapter being placed on a planet because the first chapter master had a vision be too cheesy or overdone? Thanks for the responses, and the info on the other gene seed but I am going to stick with BA's! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220646-ia-beginnings/#findComment-2634786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Debonair Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Would the idea of a new found chapter being placed on a planet because the first chapter master had a vision be too cheesy or overdone? Thanks for the responses, and the info on the other gene seed but I am going to stick with BA's! It seems a bit cliche, but it's not really a problem. That said, he could just choose the homeworld because he thinks there's likely to be a good stock of suitable recruits there, or the planet could just be a useful strategic location and well worth the Imperium defending.* *Even if it doesn't produce a decent amount of recruits, they can always pick them up from other worlds, after all. :blush: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220646-ia-beginnings/#findComment-2634833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siege40k Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 Name: (still need help) Founding: (after 21 before 25, any suggestions) Home world: Cathal Majorca, Cathal System, Segmentum (???) (looking for mainly orks as adversaries) Gene Seed: Blood Angels Motto: Ex Coelis! (From the Clouds!) or Oderint Dum Metuant! (Let them Hate, so long as they Fear!) Organization: Codex adherent plus a Death Company Strength as of current timeline: 73% Current Deployment: Fighting an invasion on Cathal Majorca itself against Waaaagghh (help with suitably ork-y Name!!) Chapter Master: Qorin di Renati An early idea draft, once I get a few more questions answered (in bold above) and figure out what chapter features I would like to focus on, I will edit my initial post and put up the beginnings of an IA. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220646-ia-beginnings/#findComment-2634983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octavulg Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 The BA were unpopular choices for geneseed in later foundings. I'd say anything after the 21st is very unlikely - they were trying to fix the Black Rage with the Lamenters in the 21st, so it would seem likely that the BA had fallen into disuse before that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220646-ia-beginnings/#findComment-2634995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XKhalilX Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Blood Dogs, Blood Wolves, Doom Wolves, Lupus Sanguine, Death Wolves you get the pattern lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220646-ia-beginnings/#findComment-2635005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siege40k Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 So then with founding how about 16th or 17th, that seems far enough removed from the 21st to still potentially be viable. I was looking at the time lines up here on the B&C and that seemed to fit, any information to be found about this particular founding? Name: Sanguis Canum (Blood Hounds) or Caelum Venantium (Sky Hunters) or Imber Sanguinis (Blood Rain) (I like the last one) thoughts and c&c appreciated, thanks so far! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220646-ia-beginnings/#findComment-2635028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octavulg Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 The first one's neat. The other two...not so much. 16th or 17th'd work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220646-ia-beginnings/#findComment-2635154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacklight Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 I'm with Octa - first one's the best. The other two are rather tongue-twisty, but the third is decent. The middle one I'd toss out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220646-ia-beginnings/#findComment-2635173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siege40k Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 Thanks for the input. I can just see a scroll on a Stormraven with Sanguis Canum on it!! I think that is what I will go with. I may save "The Blood Rain" for a company or Character nick name or slogan. What about symbol now? I have been torn. I want to use BA bits and Iconography, but want to have an interesting symbol. I will do actually heraldry for each company captain, as well as the chapter master. (I enjoy heraldry stuff), but I don't know what to do as a central symbol. Bloody Fang maybe? Also, any help with Ork-y Names? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220646-ia-beginnings/#findComment-2635190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightrawenII Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 To be honest, Blood Hounds reminds me of Flesh Hounds of Khorne. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220646-ia-beginnings/#findComment-2635303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siege40k Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 I was worried a bit about the Khorne thing, but if I worry about every association in 40k I would never come up with anything! Any suggestions to name if Blood Hound's doesn't work well? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220646-ia-beginnings/#findComment-2635367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackrat Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Name: Sanguis Canum (Blood Hounds) I like it but I think it should be Sanguis Canes. It's been quite some time since my latin studies however so I'm not sure about the following, but as I figure it out: Sanguis Canum would translate more closely to "Hounds of Blood" as opposed to "Hounds that hunt for blood". And that's how I understand the word Bloodhound. Canes would probably be more correct plural form. (But as I said, I'm not entirely sure.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220646-ia-beginnings/#findComment-2635802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague Angel Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 What about Blood Fangs? If you use a hound as part of your heraldry it should be clear what the association is, but you'll also have a nod to the vampirism at the same time. EDIT: I actually don't really care for this name, it's a bit much; but I'm just throwing out more options to get the brain juices flowing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220646-ia-beginnings/#findComment-2635838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siege40k Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 Hounds of Blood has a waaay more chaos-y feel to it than what I would be going for. I had wondered about canes v canum but I was sure someone on this board would help me out! Thanks! @Plague: I will go look through the heraldry books that I have and see what I can come up with as far as 'hound' iconography. I just think it would be weird to have all these dudes with angel wing bits and blood drops etc, and then a dog on their shoulder >.> I will be updating the original post with more information once I get to work, gotta hate sales jobs right before tax season (at least here in good ol'USA). Thanks again for the comments. Still need some help with ork names for the big baddy they are fighting. I'm thinking a Mad-Doc gone all Mengele with his 'Boyz. Probably going to base them out of a space hulk or on another planet in the system of my chapter, where the old orks were defeated and have since re-spawned. Not sure which I prefer, any suggestions welcome! Thanks again everyone. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220646-ia-beginnings/#findComment-2636281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Bastardize a griffon... Wings and beak of an Eagle, body of Rover the faithful hound? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220646-ia-beginnings/#findComment-2636310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siege40k Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 So, apparently dogs were more common in heraldry than I originally thought. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Dogs_in_heraldry I really liked: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Alb...oat_of_arms.svg For ork names, how about a bit of a vote on the following: Doc 'eadsmasher Gortok da Skalpel ???? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220646-ia-beginnings/#findComment-2636408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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