Armor Athlete Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 I am working on my Angels Revenant DIY and gave them a gene seed mutation that causes the marine to flashback memories and or feelings of the previous owner of the gene-seed. On one end a Marine (maybe a Librarian or Chaplain or "new position") can control the flashbacks or "recalls" and use it as a means to gather information about the history of the Chapter or different tactics to use against certain enemies. On the other hand the Marine goes insane due to all of the past marine thoughts, inducing sort of a multi-personality syndrome, makeing him no good to the Chapter. I am not trying to sneek the Black Rage or Red Thirst or anything. I want to use the BA Codex so I am thinking to make this a BA Successor but instead of the Black Rage and Death CO, I can just use Assault SQs as troops and what not. If you have any thoughts to tie them together let me know. I was just thinking use the Death Spectres gene-seed, and that the mutation was just a random one or maybe make them a Curse Founding or something Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220924-the-angels-revenant/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shiny One Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 I think 21st could work if you keep it down. Just a thought: perhaps the visions could have evolved to cure the dark angels! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220924-the-angels-revenant/#findComment-2638317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armor Athlete Posted January 29, 2011 Author Share Posted January 29, 2011 Do you mean Blood Angels? I am not to familar with the Dark Angels Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220924-the-angels-revenant/#findComment-2638447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shiny One Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 The Dark angels have trouble with there past, because some of them turned away from the Emperor. And now they are super secretive. As the 21st founding tried to fix flaws in the Geneseed. As the visions are a curse and blessing connected to the past, this could be a connection. But using Blood Angels would not really be a good fit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220924-the-angels-revenant/#findComment-2638618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightrawenII Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 I want to use the BA Codex so I am thinking to make this a BA Successor but instead of the Black Rage and Death CO, I can just use Assault SQs as troops and what not. It doesn't matter, what codex you are using for your DIY. Keep the Backgroung and Table-top separate, it will spare you a lot of problems. If you want to use BA's gene-seed, then you have to explain why they don't suffer from Black Rage/ Blood Thirst and have this nifty mutation. that the mutation was just a random one or maybe make them a Curse Founding Both are plausible. I was just thinking use the Death Spectres gene-seed Why Death Spectres? They are chapter of albinos... The Dark angels have trouble with there past, because some of them turned away from the Emperor. And now they are super secretive. As the 21st founding tried to fix flaws in the Geneseed. As the visions are a curse and blessing connected to the past, this could be a connection. But using Blood Angels would not really be a good fit. Except there is no flaw in the DA gene-seed, in fact the purity of DA gene-seed is on par with Ultramarine one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220924-the-angels-revenant/#findComment-2638661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague Angel Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Keep the Background and Table-top separate, it will spare you a lot of problems. In theory I disagree, since I believe that in genearal the rules for the codices are designed to represent just that background. The Red Thirst rule is a perfect example. In practice though, I agree — when it comes to writing an IA to post on the Liber, codex choice isn't that important and we don't need to know it to help critique a background. The story is what's important here, not the game quite as much compared to the other forums. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220924-the-angels-revenant/#findComment-2638679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Argent Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Well I did just this a while back: see Sons of Bennu. Although I never finished them and it has been repeated a few times since. The whole Blood Angel 21st Founding idea is the most commonly used. Its the very reason I put the Sons of hold. I just couldn't come up with a convincing and good reason for it other then their Bl;ood Angels but different. That said good luck with the idea and I look forward to what you come up with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220924-the-angels-revenant/#findComment-2638703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague Angel Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 The whole Blood Angel 21st Founding idea is the most commonly used. Imperial Armour 9 shot that down: the Lamenters are the only Sangunian 21st Founding Chapter now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220924-the-angels-revenant/#findComment-2638706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shiny One Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 The Dark angels have trouble with there past, because some of them turned away from the Emperor. And now they are super secretive. As the 21st founding tried to fix flaws in the Geneseed. As the visions are a curse and blessing connected to the past, this could be a connection. But using Blood Angels would not really be a good fit. Except there is no flaw in the DA gene-seed, in fact the purity of DA gene-seed is on par with Ultramarine one. I sad nothing from mutation of the geneseed. Just meant that there could be a connection, perhaps not trained by Dark Angels. There are some 21st chapters, that are just normally cursed and not mutated, like the Lamenters and Legion of the Damned. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220924-the-angels-revenant/#findComment-2638721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armor Athlete Posted January 29, 2011 Author Share Posted January 29, 2011 Thanks to all for the comments. I want to use the BA Codex and I do think that I should have my DIY tie in to it. I really enjoy ALL aspects of this hobby and would like to tie it all together. I am not trying to have a DC or use ALL of the BA special rules, just really use the fact of lots of Assault SQs and Landspeeders, with the whole flying theme. If the Raven Guard Codex used Assault SQs as Troops I would use it. I am trying to find the right piece to the puzzle. I could say that the Gene-seed from a successor Chapter was used and in conjunction with the rituals of implantation that caused the mutation of the AR or this is the first theory. Instead of the Black Rage or Red Thirst my AR go into a mental traumatic state and are useless to the chapter along with their gene-seed. As for the good side I would not know how to put that on the battlefield and are just thinking those marines can be prophetic or have insightful information. Again thanks for all of the help. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/220924-the-angels-revenant/#findComment-2639028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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