Generating Random Name... Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Hi there! Anyway...Here's the origins of the Black Falcons: [i; background-image:url(http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/hq2.gif); background-repeat: no-repeat; background-position: 8px 2px; padding: 12px 8px 12px 8px; border: 1px solid #DDD; margin-left: 0 auto; text-align: left; color: #fff; text-indent:50px; font-size:130%; width:50%;">Black Falcons [/i] "Where they least expect it, we shall strike." Great Bulls were once Grasshoppers. "One of the any teachings of Chapter Master Zaf Dorum was that although many candidates may aspire to become Black Falcons they must first start by learning many things they consider to be beneath them, because only with a firm base will they become Space Marines and defenders of the Imperium. Even after his death Zaf Dorum's teachings still shape the Chapter and it's recruits." F ounded in the 9th founding after Space Marine forces were depleted during the 3rd Black crusade the Black Falcons were created from the Raven Guard Geneseed through the Raptors. Captain Zaf Dorum of the fifth company was gifted with the task of training the new chapter. Dorum was a Stalwart man of Pious beliefs, he was an integral part of the chapter often fighting on the front line beside his brothers. A great advocate of humility and modesty he started training the chapter in the heat of battle almost as soon as he took command, many of these battles were not alongside brother space marines, but fighting off bands of mercenaries and pirates attacking lonely systems, or assisting Imperial Guard regiments in fighting Greenskins. On the occasions when the Space Marines fought pirates they would often masquerade as targets for the pirates as training exercises luring them into the trap before striking. It was this humble founding which taught the Black Falcons one of their main principles which is still taught to new recruits: "Great Bulls were once Grasshoppers". Once the Chapter had found it's feet in combat they started to fight alongside other chapters against tougher enemies, during this time they still had no Homeworld and were fleet-borne as suited their training, but it was in the year C174M33 after consulting the Emperor's Tarot that the Chapter moved towards the system Raknor in the south eastern Segmentum Solar . They found that Raknor was terrorised by Eldar Pirates and had been for some time. The Black Falcons immediately came to the people of Raknor's aid, and the Pirates were soon fleeing from the wrath of Space marines highly trained at fighting them... Homeworld Extract from "On Isidor: Where Falcons soar". "Upon completion of the Black Falcon's Fortress Monastery emissaries were sent to contact the leaders of both the north and south colonies to request a meeting to discuss the future of the planet. Needless to say the rulers accepted, and within weeks the six 'Houses' were formed. This marked the start of a new and glorious era in the history of Isidor. In more recent history the two now great civilisations of Isidor have formed colonies around the Black Falcon's Fortress Monastery, it is hoped by both that this will help their cultures integrate with each other." A fter their victory over the Pirates the Black Falcons were welcomed by the people of Raknor as heroes, and so they set about constructing their Fortress monastery on the system's capital planet, Isidor.Isidor is a civilised world, the third from the sun, it is mostly covered in Jungle, with the exception of the Equator which is arid desert, and the two poles which are Oceanic, the poles are where most life is concentrated with habitation petering out in the dense jungle and dry deserts. The two cultures were isolated from each other, but with the Space Marines advanced technology the two cultures have been reunited. Isidor has three moons: Alton, Maesmis and Jarka, none of which are suitable for human habitation but make excellent sites for the Black Falcons' space stations and training outposts. [clearfloat][/clearfloat] Organisation Extract from "On Isidor: Where Falcons soar". "The 'Houses' are a hangover from Isidor's feudal age, but were deemed useful as a source of recruits, originally there were many Houses but now only three from each hemisphere are used for recruiting possible marines. From the north there are: House Lamina , House Obsidentes and House Lupi. And the three from the south are: House Cito, House Furtim, and House Subsidio. And the seventh house: House Veteranus, whose entrants are from the chapter. Anyone may apply to join one of the six houses, each with their own specific role in the chapter corresponding with a company." W hile the Black Falcons follow the Codex Astartes tactically, organisationally they have a separate system, instead of the usual ten companies they have seven companies each representing one of the Houses, all with different roles in the chapter. Like their Progenitors the Black Falcons' Companies are all independent, but unlike the Raven Guard each company has a specific role to fulfil. For instance the first company is led by the Chapter Master, and so is sent on missions that require his expertise, any marine with over five decades experience may join the first, but first they must complete an initiation test to prove their worth. The second company is the backbone of the army, it is also the most codex adherent company similar to the Ultramarines' second company in it's composition. The third company is similar to the second but it plays a more supporting role, with less scouts and assault troops than the second. The fourth company is the scout (or training company) and as such is made up of mainly recruits and their tutors. The fifth company is the veteran scout company, marines with an aptitude for stealth may apply (Or even be requested) to join this company. The sixth company is the chapter's assault company, it is composed of the chapter's fast attack vehicles and troops (Mainly assault troops, but some drop pods as well). And lastly seventh is the Support company, containing mainly devastator squads, but also the Chapter's few revered tanks, because of this the company is led by the master of the forge. Combat Doctrine On Terminator Armour. While during some operations the lack of Terminator Armour can be a hindrance to the Black Falcons, for example the boarding of a ship, it can be a boon during others as the enemy is expecting the huge armoured juggernauts synonymous with the Adeptus Astartes, allowing the Black Falcons' highly trained stealth specialists to infiltrate the enemy and devastate them from within. T he Black Falcons attack their enemy when and where they least expect it, striking without mercy, they are masters of stealth and as such know that only through self control can one hide oneself effectively. Preferring scouts and assault troops over tanks and terminators they are more mobile than many armies and it is through this mobility that they are able to strike with deadly efficiency. It is not uncommon for a Black Falcon army to use silenced weapons and throwing blades instead of more powerful, but louder options. As part of the basic training a candidate learns a rudimentary knowledge of traps and snares. The Black Falcons also use less terminator armour than many other chapters, partly because it is virtually non-existent in the chapter, and partly because it is deemed too noisy and cumbersome for stealthy use. Although the Black Falcons have a small number of tanks, the few they do have though are venerated more than any other relics, and their use marks extraordinary circumstances. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221105-ia-black-falcons/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKO Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Be warned that when you start off with a story, it usually makes writing the IA harder as you find yourself switching from story mode to explanations mode, also dont put to much focus on Captain Zaf Dorum the IA is about the Black Falcons. Your origin section is well written and very impressive I cant wait to see what happens next! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221105-ia-black-falcons/#findComment-2640494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generating Random Name... Posted January 30, 2011 Author Share Posted January 30, 2011 ...Just as Planned... Cue the evil laughter! I don't think the rest of the IA will be so story orientated, maybe just the start to get you hooked :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221105-ia-black-falcons/#findComment-2640507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund Himself Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Fighting your ordinary run of the mill pirates doesn't mean that you will be adept at fighting Eldar. Just a small note to consider. I would also consider what your chapter character is going to be based around and try to work it more into the Origins section. This is the opening to your chapter, the reader's first view of them and where it is really important to start pushing forward what makes them unique. You have to hook the readers, as you've pointed out, but I think the best way to do this is with exposing their unique theme/character right at the start :cuss It's a good start but it could become great with work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221105-ia-black-falcons/#findComment-2641060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generating Random Name... Posted January 31, 2011 Author Share Posted January 31, 2011 Fighting your ordinary run of the mill pirates doesn't mean that you will be adept at fighting Eldar. Just a small note to consider. Thanks for that, but surely being a spacemarine and having experience of Pirate like enemies must count for something? I would also consider what your chapter character is going to be based around and try to work it more into the Origins section. This is the opening to your chapter, the reader's first view of them and where it is really important to start pushing forward what makes them unique. You have to hook the readers, as you've pointed out, but I think the best way to do this is with exposing their unique theme/character right at the start :) It's a good start but it could become great with work. Again, thanks for this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221105-ia-black-falcons/#findComment-2641442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generating Random Name... Posted January 31, 2011 Author Share Posted January 31, 2011 Homeworld v1 added :o Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221105-ia-black-falcons/#findComment-2641693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKO Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Looking good so far! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221105-ia-black-falcons/#findComment-2642023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generating Random Name... Posted February 1, 2011 Author Share Posted February 1, 2011 Combat Organisation's Up, worst bit I think...You decide :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221105-ia-black-falcons/#findComment-2643131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodWulf Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 You will want to flesh out your organization section a bit more. Are the companies bigger than average or is the whole Chapter under strength by 300 Marines? Why are there 2 companies of Scouts but only one of Assaults and Devastators? Why do they organize themselves differently than the Raven Guard. It needs a bit more "why" in here to talk about the differences and capture more of the reader's interest. writing IA articles are a long process. When I wrote mine I thought it was done about 20 times, it still probably needs a ton of work, but you have a really good start so keep your spirits up and write! luck Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221105-ia-black-falcons/#findComment-2643452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKO Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I think you need to explain what you mean by "scout company". A scout company to codex marines is the 10th company that is made up of scouts that are divided amongst the tactical companys to aid in certain things. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221105-ia-black-falcons/#findComment-2643720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generating Random Name... Posted February 2, 2011 Author Share Posted February 2, 2011 You will want to flesh out your organization section a bit more. Are the companies bigger than average or is the whole Chapter under strength by 300 Marines? Thankyou, i'll do this when i get the chance Why are there 2 companies of Scouts but only one of Assaults and Devastators? Why do they organize themselves differently than the Raven Guard. It needs a bit more "why" in here to talk about the differences and capture more of the reader's interest. I wanted scouts to be the backbone of the army, and if their are more marines in a company then there will be more of everything.I know all the Raven guard companies are independant, but i wanted mine to have to work together alot, and if there are more marines it will mean that no company will ever be fully used. writing IA articles are a long process. When I wrote mine I thought it was done about 20 times, it still probably needs a ton of work, but you have a really good start so keep your spirits up and write! I know what you mean, i actually have the whole thing written out in a word document at home, but i'm adding it a section at a time so i can fix it so i'm happy with it then put it up, and see if the good people of the Liber are happy with it. luck Thanks :P @CKO I think you need to explain what you mean by "scout company". A scout company to codex marines is the 10th company that is made up of scouts that are divided amongst the tactical companys to aid in certain things. I just realised i don't know why i'm even having codes divergance organisationally :rolleyes: Because what i'm basically wanting is what the codex does but with 3 less companies, and it's also almost completely opposite to what teh Raven Guard have... I'll change it to something else more Ravenguard-like. Anyway the scout companies do what you just said. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221105-ia-black-falcons/#findComment-2643753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generating Random Name... Posted February 2, 2011 Author Share Posted February 2, 2011 O.K. i've changed the organisation to something i'm happier with Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221105-ia-black-falcons/#findComment-2644549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generating Random Name... Posted February 8, 2011 Author Share Posted February 8, 2011 Righy, see what you make of the Combat Doctrine... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221105-ia-black-falcons/#findComment-2651592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightrawenII Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Some minor point: The black letters on (more than less) black background aren't exactly visible... Dorum was a Stalwart man of Pious beliefs, he was an integral part of the chapter often fighting on the front line beside his brothers. ~ Isidor is a civilised world, the third from the sun, it is mostly covered in Jungle, with the exception of the Equator which is arid desert, and the two poles which are Oceanic, the poles are where most life is concentrated with habitation petering out in the dense jungle and dry deserts. - Why capitals? - I don't know what is "petering". Also jungle is the habitat with most life-forms on cubic meter. Upon completion of the Black Falcon's Fortress Monastery emissaries were sent to contact the leaders of both the north and south colonies to request a meeting to discuss the future of the planet. - Wait a sec... There was no discussion before? In more recent history the two now great civilisations of Isidor have formed colonies around the Black Falcon's Fortress Monastery, it is hoped by both that this will help their cultures integrate with each other. - Btw, where is the exact location of the Monastery. The 'Houses' are a hangover from Isidor's feudal age - In previous sidebar, you said that the houses were formed after the Falcons pact with people of Isidor. Like their Progenitors the Black Falcons' Companies are all independent, but unlike the Raven Guard each company has a specific role to fulfil. - Do you know why are RavenGuard Companies independent? It is because all of them are tactically flexible and versatile without need to rely on other Co's. By the logic *gasp* your Co's aren't independent, because they are specialists and specialists are bad at anything, but their specialization. Just look at the Eldar Aspect Warriors. The second company is the backbone of the army, it is also the most codex adherent company similar to the Ultramarines' second company in it's composition. The third company is similar to the second but it plays a more supporting role, with less scouts and assault troops than the second. - Where this organisation cames from? - Battle Co's don't have a scouts in their composition and you have two additional Co's of scouts to boot. I know, this is not constructive comment but... By the Emperor! Another "sneaky-ninja" Chapter. :rolleyes: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221105-ia-black-falcons/#findComment-2652542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generating Random Name... Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 Some minor point:The black letters on (more than less) black background aren't exactly visible...[/qoute] O.k. Dorum was a Stalwart man of Pious beliefs, he was an integral part of the chapter often fighting on the front line beside his brothers. ~ Isidor is a civilised world, the third from the sun, it is mostly covered in Jungle, with the exception of the Equator which is arid desert, and the two poles which are Oceanic, the poles are where most life is concentrated with habitation petering out in the dense jungle and dry deserts. - Why capitals? - I don't know what is "petering". Also jungle is the habitat with most life-forms on cubic meter. To answer your first question: I don't know, i just have a tendancy to capitalize stuff. Point 2. "Petering" is, i always thought, when someting gets less and less, e.g. less and less jungle towards the equator. Imeant human life, thanks Upon completion of the Black Falcon's Fortress Monastery emissaries were sent to contact the leaders of both the north and south colonies to request a meeting to discuss the future of the planet.- Wait a sec... There was no discussion before? Well, what normally happens? In more recent history the two now great civilisations of Isidor have formed colonies around the Black Falcon's Fortress Monastery, it is hoped by both that this will help their cultures integrate with each other.- Btw, where is the exact location of the Monastery. Somewhere one the equator i was thinking, but does it matter? The 'Houses' are a hangover from Isidor's feudal age- In previous sidebar, you said that the houses were formed after the Falcons pact with people of Isidor. I will change it to "Formed for recruiting" Like their Progenitors the Black Falcons' Companies are all independent, but unlike the Raven Guard each company has a specific role to fulfil.- Do you know why are RavenGuard Companies independent? It is because all of them are tactically flexible and versatile without need to rely on other Co's. By the logic *gasp* your Co's aren't independent, because they are specialists and specialists are bad at anything, but their specialization. Just look at the Eldar Aspect Warriors. Well, how about companies that are independant, but still have specialisations, like more scouts, or more devastators, so are more likely to go on a mission that suites their skills? The second company is the backbone of the army, it is also the most codex adherent company similar to the Ultramarines' second company in it's composition. The third company is similar to the second but it plays a more supporting role, with less scouts and assault troops than the second.- Where this organisation cames from? - Battle Co's don't have a scouts in their composition and you have two additional Co's of scouts to boot. If i go down the route of independant specialists could i say they are a more diverse company? 2. Don't they? I know, this is not constructive comment but... By the Emperor! Another "sneaky-ninja" Chapter. ^_^ Well, what's wrong with that (apart from that there are others), if i didn't do anything because someone else did it then i may as well stop. Thankyou. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221105-ia-black-falcons/#findComment-2652912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quozzo Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 I don't know what is "petering".If your not from England and don't know an English word then its hardly GRN's fault. "Great Bulls were once Grasshoppers". IMO it doesn't sound like something a SM would say, unless their now Buddhists. For instance the first company is led by the Chapter Master, and so is sent on missions that require his expertise, any marine with over five decades experience may join the first, but first they must complete an initiation test to prove their worth.Do they sit down and have an exam? ;) Why must they take another initiation test, their Space Marines, they just passed the biggest initiation test of their lives, can't they prove their worth in combat where the skills they should have obtained will be put to use, rather then getting in the 1st company and dying because they can't handle the pressure or they were told to kill stuff and got out of cover in front of a Orks burna boy. Training is good, a test even better but there is no substitute for battle experience. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221105-ia-black-falcons/#findComment-2653242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generating Random Name... Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 I don't know what is "petering".If your not from England and don't know an English word then its hardly GRN's fault.# To be fair, I'm not even sure if that's the right spelling. Anyway, here's a link: Petering "Great Bulls were once Grasshoppers". IMO it doesn't sound like something a SM would say, unless their now Buddhists. I know what you mean, but i did get it from the DIY guide, maybe something more like "Great super amazing Astartes were once puny weakling humans" For instance the first company is led by the Chapter Master, and so is sent on missions that require his expertise, any marine with over five decades experience may join the first, but first they must complete an initiation test to prove their worth.Do they sit down and have an exam? :) Why must they take another initiation test, their Space Marines, they just passed the biggest initiation test of their lives, can't they prove their worth in combat where the skills they should have obtained will be put to use, rather then getting in the 1st company and dying because they can't handle the pressure or they were told to kill stuff and got out of cover in front of a Orks burna boy. Training is good, a test even better but there is no substitute for battle experience. B) I didn't what the test is, but it could be anything on the field of battle, like for instance perform something super-amazing, doesn't even need to be set it's just there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221105-ia-black-falcons/#findComment-2653289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightrawenII Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Well, what normally happens? You don't ask owner before you start building your house on his lawn? Somewhere one the equator i was thinking, but does it matter? It is meeting point of two civilizations, so yeah. ;) Well, how about companies that are independant, but still have specialisations, like more scouts, or more devastators, so are more likely to go on a mission that suites their skills? Depends. The Space Marines are expected to fight in any environment against any enemy. Cherry-picking your mission(s) is out of question. If i go down the route of independant specialists could i say they are a more diverse company?2. Don't they? - Why diverse companies? - 2. No. I don't know what is "petering".If your not from England and don't know an English word then its hardly GRN's fault. So I can't ask? I did some research what the word means and this was result:petering. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221105-ia-black-falcons/#findComment-2653763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generating Random Name... Posted February 10, 2011 Author Share Posted February 10, 2011 Well, what normally happens? You don't ask owner before you start building your house on his lawn? "Lawn" is stretching it a bit, it's more the middle of a field next to the house. Somewhere one the equator i was thinking, but does it matter? It is meeting point of two civilizations, so yeah. :P ok. Well, how about companies that are independant, but still have specialisations, like more scouts, or more devastators, so are more likely to go on a mission that suites their skills? Depends. The Space Marines are expected to fight in any environment against any enemy. Cherry-picking your mission(s) is out of question. Good point, so they'd choose any mission, but how they went about completing it would be up to them. Sound better? If i go down the route of independant specialists could i say they are a more diverse company?2. Don't they? - Why diverse companies? - 2. No. Well, the Raven Guard have pretty diverse and self sufficient companies, so wouldn't it fit better? 2. thanks I don't know what is "petering".If your not from England and don't know an English word then its hardly GRN's fault. So I can't ask? I did some research what the word means and this was result:petering. I put a link to a definition in my last post. And that was a bit harsh Quozzo. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221105-ia-black-falcons/#findComment-2654546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightrawenII Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Good point, so they'd choose any mission, but how they went about completing it would be up to them. Sound better? Yes. Well, the Raven Guard have pretty diverse and self sufficient companies, so wouldn't it fit better? The Space Wolves have pretty diverse and self sufficient companies... :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221105-ia-black-falcons/#findComment-2655089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generating Random Name... Posted February 11, 2011 Author Share Posted February 11, 2011 The Space Wolves have pretty diverse and self sufficient companies... :P I'm not really up to date on my Space wolves fluff, but i can imagine that many other chapters have diverse and/or self sufficient companies. And soory about not answering your question about where this comes from, i'm still trying to think of a decent answer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221105-ia-black-falcons/#findComment-2655533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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