Tulkas Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Hello, I'm writing an IA: Celestial Lions. Since I started painting my marines gold and blue, just after Armageddon 3, I've seen alot of people pick up on them, which in my opinion is very very cool. I've also seen alot of people write their view of the fluff, which is cooler still. It is therefor that I want to state that this IA I am writing is my view at their fluff. If people wanna work with me on it, they are more than welcome to PM me, but I'm gonna say this up front: I'm a stubborn SOB and will most likely use my view of things in this IA. I am however always interested to hear other people's views. There. Having said that, here's my question: The GW fluff states that the CL homeworld is called Elysium IX. That is about all that is known about it. Having the number 9 (IX) suggests to me there are more planets with the name Elysium. - Does anyone of you happen to know what area of space this (these) planet(s) can be found in? - Is it logical to assume the other planets are called Elysium I to VIII? Perhaps going on farther than the number IX even? - On average, how many planets in a system are inhabitable? Obviously Elysium IX is, so is it possible to assume others in the system are as well? Planet Earth is the only inhabitable planet in OUR system (afaik ^^) I am looking for answers from people who have at least some knowledge in this area. I know its a fantasy game and I can come up with anything I want to 'cuz it's my army and I can do whatever I want as long as I have fun', but I'm really trying to make this IA as believable as possible. Please do not reply saying 'Yeh why not' and 'Go with it' and other empty posts that basically add nothing to my questions. Thank you for reading. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221348-need-some-help-placing-my-homeworld/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackrat Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Well, the way most scifi handles that kind of names, I'd rather think that the star system in question is called Elysium and the planet is the 9th planet in Elysium system. Hence Elysium IX. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221348-need-some-help-placing-my-homeworld/#findComment-2643853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodWulf Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Well, the way most scifi handles that kind of names, I'd rather think that the star system in question is called Elysium and the planet is the 9th planet in Elysium system. Hence Elysium IX. Agreed. Also the Elysium system is home to a famous Imperial Guard Regiment, the Elysium Drop Troopers. I bet if you looked this unit up on the interwebs you could find a location for the system. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221348-need-some-help-placing-my-homeworld/#findComment-2644447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heru Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Well, the way most scifi handles that kind of names, I'd rather think that the star system in question is called Elysium and the planet is the 9th planet in Elysium system. Hence Elysium IX. Agreed. Also the Elysium system is home to a famous Imperial Guard Regiment, the Elysium Drop Troopers. I bet if you looked this unit up on the interwebs you could find a location for the system. You are thinking of the Elysian Drop Troops, and they are from Elysia. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221348-need-some-help-placing-my-homeworld/#findComment-2644458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Renatus Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I cannot remember ever reading a piece of fluff or canon dictating the location of Elysium. My suggestion? Place it in the most overlooked and underdeveloped Segmentum out there...Pacificus. A peaceful place in the Imperium, populated by the halcyonic homeworld of the Celestial Lions...who are hunted to extinction by the Inquisition. The irony is appealing if nothing else, lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221348-need-some-help-placing-my-homeworld/#findComment-2644538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulkas Posted February 2, 2011 Author Share Posted February 2, 2011 Yeh, although I see how easily you got from ElysiUm to ElysiAn, Bloodwulf. Marshal Renatus, I hope Pacificus is rife with Xenos though. I just wrote up a reason for their founding you see... But I bet it is, like the rest of the galaxy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221348-need-some-help-placing-my-homeworld/#findComment-2644571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Off hand some of the more famous Pacificus worlds.. Joura and Hydraphur. Oh and Ultima Macharia. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221348-need-some-help-placing-my-homeworld/#findComment-2644595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Renatus Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Also home of the Sabbat Worlds, the former Ork empire of Jakart, and two Eldar Craftworlds, Varantha and Iybraesil. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221348-need-some-help-placing-my-homeworld/#findComment-2644606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Also home of the Sabbat Worlds, the former Ork empire of Jakart, and two Eldar Craftworlds, Varantha and Iybraesil. And a Starbucks.. Everywhere has a Starbucks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221348-need-some-help-placing-my-homeworld/#findComment-2644612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulkas Posted February 2, 2011 Author Share Posted February 2, 2011 Okay, just the things I need. Thanks guys. Ow wait, Q3: How many suns would the Segmentum Pacificus have? Just the one, or can it hold many different (sub) systems? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221348-need-some-help-placing-my-homeworld/#findComment-2644613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
soddinnutter Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Number of 'habitable' planets in a system is usually 1. You have to have a world close enough for the ice to melt but not so close that it boils. this is called the Goldie Locks Zone. anymore than 1 planet in this orbit and their gravity wells come into conflict and one or both will be thrown into the sun, out into the cold void or into a new orbit. A larger star (a Blue Giant for instance) might have a much larger GLZ that could accommodate a second planet but will irradiate everything. If it was a Twin planet, two planets of approximately equal mass, then they would spin around each other. Or you could have a Gas Giant like Saturn or Jupiter in the GLZ and have the moons inhabited. But that said why would it need to be inhabitable? Could they live in huge caverns like the farmers of Calth with sun mimicking lights, blue painted ceiling and a sprinkler system for the rain? Or a hive world? "Q3: How many suns would the Segmentum Pacificus have?" If we assume that most stars are suns and a Segmentum takes up about a fifth of the galaxy i would say several billion. Not an accurate answer but it's the best i can think of. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221348-need-some-help-placing-my-homeworld/#findComment-2644630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulkas Posted February 2, 2011 Author Share Posted February 2, 2011 Taking it shortly, the Segmentum Pacificus is friggin' huge and nearly anything can be there.... Amiright? I was trying to set the borders for my Elysium system, but from what I (hopefully) understand from your post soddinnutter, I won't have to worry too much about borders and infringing on other, named by GW, planets and systems. I hope. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221348-need-some-help-placing-my-homeworld/#findComment-2644705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodWulf Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Yeh, although I see how easily you got from ElysiUm to ElysiAn, Bloodwulf. I meant well at least. As far as picking an area of the Segmentum, just find a nice vacant spot with a good location for what you want and claim it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221348-need-some-help-placing-my-homeworld/#findComment-2645216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulkas Posted February 3, 2011 Author Share Posted February 3, 2011 I'll just leave it nice and vague, so if someone ever goes 'That can't be, thats where the Sabbat Worlds are' I can just say, 'Oh no your mistaken, it's on the other side of those' ad infinitum. Any info on what kind of planets are logically the (at least) other eight planets in Elysium would be greatly appreciated. Like cold icy planet, huge gassy planet etc. I can make it a copy of our solar system but again, I want it to be logical. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221348-need-some-help-placing-my-homeworld/#findComment-2645328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackrat Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Any info on what kind of planets are logically the (at least) other eight planets in Elysium would be greatly appreciated. Like cold icy planet, huge gassy planet etc. I can make it a copy of our solar system but again, I want it to be logical. It really depends on what kind of planet you want the homeworld to be. If you want it to be earthlike then it will be relatively close to the star, which means that the 8 planets before it are going to be even closer. So most of them would be molten rocks like mercury. If however it is a planet that's farther out, it will be cold barren world itself, and then the 8 planets can range more. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221348-need-some-help-placing-my-homeworld/#findComment-2645334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulkas Posted February 3, 2011 Author Share Posted February 3, 2011 Any info on what kind of planets are logically the (at least) other eight planets in Elysium would be greatly appreciated. Like cold icy planet, huge gassy planet etc. I can make it a copy of our solar system but again, I want it to be logical. It really depends on what kind of planet you want the homeworld to be. If you want it to be earthlike then it will be relatively close to the star, which means that the 8 planets before it are going to be even closer. So most of them would be molten rocks like mercury. If however it is a planet that's farther out, it will be cold barren world itself, and then the 8 planets can range more. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I had been thinking of an earth like planet. I think only the earthlike planet would have an atmosphere, right? What if the planet is a moon of a giant planet, like Saturn/ Jupiter (the biggest of those), could it have an atmosphere? Because that could make it possible to have multiple planets with atmospheres right? And I mean liveable atmospheres.... not like Mars present day. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221348-need-some-help-placing-my-homeworld/#findComment-2645433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackrat Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Well yeah, the model that I presented is only the general idea. It's also possible that the planet is generally in unhabitable zone but ancient terraforming methods have made it more hospitable to human life. Or a result of weird warp activity. Or possibly the star is really massive which means that the habitable zone is around the distance equaling to Pluto on Sol system. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221348-need-some-help-placing-my-homeworld/#findComment-2645439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulkas Posted February 3, 2011 Author Share Posted February 3, 2011 Well, I guess there's a little creative liberty as well there, ain't it? I think I'll just gather my thoughts and post a small summary here for you guys soon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221348-need-some-help-placing-my-homeworld/#findComment-2645442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodWulf Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 I think if someone really gets themselves hung up on the fact that your home world is the 9th planet in a system and it should be too far away from the star to support life they should remember we are playing a game in a setting where a fleet of star ships roll up on planets and destroy them......i.e. its a game set in a science fantasy setting! bottom line if you like it, go with it. If somone refuse to play against you because of it, thats totally their bag to carry. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221348-need-some-help-placing-my-homeworld/#findComment-2645521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulkas Posted February 3, 2011 Author Share Posted February 3, 2011 I think if someone really gets themselves hung up on the fact that your home world is the 9th planet in a system and it should be too far away from the star to support life they should remember we are playing a game in a setting where a fleet of star ships roll up on planets and destroy them......i.e. its a game set in a science fantasy setting! bottom line if you like it, go with it. If somone refuse to play against you because of it, thats totally their bag to carry. Nah I don't think it'll come to that Bloodwulf. If anything, it'll be the loaded dice or something silly like that... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221348-need-some-help-placing-my-homeworld/#findComment-2645643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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