Space marine bikes and shooting

[Toothless_saw]

probably a really stupid question but the SM codex describes the marine biker as armed with a bolt pistol, if the bike moves it can use all of the weapons as if it hasnt moved.

does this mean it can fire the bikes armament as well as his bolt pistol?

[greatcrusade08]

probably a really stupid question but the SM codex describes the marine biker as armed with a bolt pistol, if the bike moves it can use all of the weapons as if it hasnt moved.

does this mean it can fire the bikes armament as well as his bolt pistol?

 

the rulebook is clear that a model can only fire a single weapon per turn.. there are some noteable exceptions (MCs attack bikes etc).. but bikes can only fire one weapon

[DarkGuard]

In addition, bikes may fire one weapon for each rider on it. So a Space Marine bike can fire either his TL-boltguns or his bolt pistol/ special weapon, whereas an attack bike can fire two of their bolt pistols, TL-boltguns and heavy weapon.

[Dave Rogers]

Not sure if this applies to other SM codices, but DA Ravenwing bikers can have a bolt pistol or a chainsword. The only difference is that the bolt pistol gives them the option of taking a single S4 AP6 shot instead of the two twin-linked S4 AP6 shots they get anyway, which is pointless; either one counts equally well as a CCW. However, is it valid to separate chainsword and BP equipped riders into separate groups for wound allocation, or is that tantamount to rules lawyering given that in practice there's no difference?

 

Dave

[Grey Mage]

Dave... your AP is wrong. You should check that before you next play gaurd or nids.

 

And no, theres nothing against the rules if you want to use wound allocation that way. Considering the small size of ravenwing units, I dont think its particularly horrible either.

[Dave Rogers]

Just forgot whether it was AP5 or 6, and I don't have any of the literature handy. Thanks.

 

Dave

[narf]

the useful thing about using the bolt pistol is if you really want to get in combat but are only in range of a small, lightly armoured unit, where rapid firing, reroll hit bolters will do to much damage and make them break. the pistols will pop a couple and mean that they may not have to make a test and you can charge.

[Leonaides]

then dont shoot, or only shoot with some of the models. As long as you declare before rolling any dice, there's nothing wrong with doing it like that...

[dizzy-xc]

Ummm, thought bikes were able to fire any weapon and still charge. So Rapid Firing the twin linked bolters in lieu of using bolt pistols was still good for then charging or no?

[DarkGuard]

He was referring to the idea that the boltguns will do more damage thanks to increased firepower and accuracy, and that while this is normally a good thing, it could lead to the squad you want to assault breaking and you being stranded out of assault range. But yes, bikes are relentless and so suffer no movement or assault penalties in terms of weapons being fired.

[Wildfire]

In addition, bikes may fire one weapon for each rider on it.

 

Yes and no. The rule which allows an attack bike to fire two weapons is specific to the attack bike. There is no general rule that I know of that allows bikes to fire one weapon per rider. A small but important difference.

[ignavus]

In addition, bikes may fire one weapon for each rider on it.

 

Yes and no. The rule which allows an attack bike to fire two weapons is specific to the attack bike. There is no general rule that I know of that allows bikes to fire one weapon per rider. A small but important difference.

 

You may wish to check page 53 of the rulebook there Wildfire.

[DarkGuard]

In addition, bikes may fire one weapon for each rider on it.

 

Yes and no. The rule which allows an attack bike to fire two weapons is specific to the attack bike. There is no general rule that I know of that allows bikes to fire one weapon per rider. A small but important difference.

 

You may wish to check page 53 of the rulebook there Wildfire.

 

That's right, it's on there as general for bikers. It's just that Space Marine Attack Bikes is the only unit that this rule applies to unless I'm mistaken.