Major Silva Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I already have a WH cannoness and a squad of 10 battle sisters with some storm troopers... any ideas on what i should buy next in line? after my next squad of sisters of course I was thinking about an exorcist or an immolator but not really sure Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221500-need-some-help-starting-a-witch-hunters-army-suggestions/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chengar Qordath Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Exorcist would be a great buy; it give you some nice armor and long range firepower that your average Witch Hunter army really needs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221500-need-some-help-starting-a-witch-hunters-army-suggestions/#findComment-2646255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady_Canoness Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 It's up to you, but I went for Seraphim when I was starting out for use in small combat-patrol rules games. Its a good way to get the feel of any army you start. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221500-need-some-help-starting-a-witch-hunters-army-suggestions/#findComment-2646268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredegar Kadere Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 What size army do you plan to eventually field? I have found a single Retributor squad with three heavy bolters and a multi-melta or four heavy bolters to be a nice command post style unit for any size game. Give the squad an Immolator transport that runs empty to help flame the enemy line. If you plan to go mechanized heavy then you should buy the complete Immolator kit for each 10 woman battle sister squad. It is a couple dollars more than the standard Rhino kit, but you will get the Immolator turrets, the Sororitas specific emblems, and the arched top for the Rhino body. It is well worth the extra cost. The best thing is the kit has the full Rhino body and parts with it so you do not lose out on anything if you want to run just the Rhino. Adding a five more Sisters to act as Celestians may be worthwhile. You can run them alone or tag them along as a retinue for your Canoness. Throw them in an Immolator and you have a nice assault/counter-assault or vehicle hunter unit. At higher point levels, say 1500 and up, I would suggest a minimum of one Exorcist. The Exorcist is our only weapon with a 48" range unless you induct Imperial Guard, Space Marines, or get a Land Raider transport for an Inquisitor and retinue. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221500-need-some-help-starting-a-witch-hunters-army-suggestions/#findComment-2646279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 For SoB get plenty of Battle Sisters and a good number of special weapons to arm them with. Exorcists are mandatory so you should have at least 2, and mech works well so a few Rhino/Immolators to cart your troops around. That's the core of almost every SoB army, so you'd be well set there. Seraphim are always worth having so they should be on your list at some point too. Whenever in doubt, get more Battle Sisters :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221500-need-some-help-starting-a-witch-hunters-army-suggestions/#findComment-2646386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Silva Posted February 4, 2011 Author Share Posted February 4, 2011 Well I eventually want to have a solid 2000 to 2500 points of sisters over the next few years...i also want to play a lot of flamers so like 2 retributer squads in immolaters withe 4 flamers each and a BoHF and the BoSL..then a seriphem squad (10 sister strong) with celestian and have 2 hand flamers...i was also thinking maxing my heavies with 3 exorcists or a unit of penitent engines when my friend plays his swarm nid army... i also was thinking on 2 canonesses with celestians (5 man with 2 meltas and a BoHF) in immolaters..an elite inquis with a vidicare and another 6 sister celestian squad with immolater and 2 meltas with BoHF i also wabted 2 10 sister squads 2 meltas and a BoHF in rhinos and a 20 sister squad with 2 meltas and BoHF to sit on my objective in my deployment zone.... What do you guys think? Any critique will be awesome!!! thanks Major Silva Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221500-need-some-help-starting-a-witch-hunters-army-suggestions/#findComment-2647280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nias Wolf Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 To use Penitent Engines, you have to take the burden of a Priest. I'm currently under the impression that the only way to field one, and not mess with your rapid fire weapons, is to roll one into a unit of Sisters Repentia. I'm also under the impression that this is less than ideal... you may want to think about this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221500-need-some-help-starting-a-witch-hunters-army-suggestions/#findComment-2647373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Silva Posted February 5, 2011 Author Share Posted February 5, 2011 Well i kniw that im not going to buy them more of me just wanting to mess with my friends horde of termigants and hormigaunts with stuff that they cant hurt and i would prob take the priest and just hide him in a immolater with some dominions and when i get out to flame a unit just detach him or something to that matter Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221500-need-some-help-starting-a-witch-hunters-army-suggestions/#findComment-2647545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Silva Posted February 6, 2011 Author Share Posted February 6, 2011 It's up to you, but I went for Seraphim when I was starting out for use in small combat-patrol rules games. Its a good way to get the feel of any army you start. Would u suggest twin hand flamers? Or the twin inferno pistols? I play against tau templars orks nids and blood angels also eldar which one do u think would mess them up? Im leaning to the hand flamers but i want a second opinion before i put the money forth. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221500-need-some-help-starting-a-witch-hunters-army-suggestions/#findComment-2648480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Fox Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 I use my Seraphim as tank hunters and heavy infantry hunters.. I go with a plasma pistol/power weapon, then 2 TL inferno pistols with a squad size of 6 or 7 or so usually. It works for me, but many prefer the flamage :blush: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221500-need-some-help-starting-a-witch-hunters-army-suggestions/#findComment-2648503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValourousHeart Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 To use Penitent Engines, you have to take the burden of a Priest. I'm currently under the impression that the only way to field one, and not mess with your rapid fire weapons, is to roll one into a unit of Sisters Repentia. I'm also under the impression that this is less than ideal... you may want to think about this. An alternative unit for the priest is in the dominion squad, as they are mostly armed with assault weapons. I take the following. Priest w/ brazier & las pistol Vet w/ brazier, bolt pistol and book 4 dominions w/ flamers Immolator w/ holy promithium & extra armor Otherwise the priest goes with a squad of IST armed with shotguns and 2 melta guns loaded up in a Valkyrie (Imperial Armor 2 FAQ) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221500-need-some-help-starting-a-witch-hunters-army-suggestions/#findComment-2648566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredegar Kadere Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Would u suggest twin hand flamers? Or the twin inferno pistols? I play against tau templars orks nids and blood angels also eldar which one do u think would mess them up? Im leaning to the hand flamers but i want a second opinion before i put the money forth. I generally equip my Seraphim with the twin flamers for horde hunting and disembarked squad hunting. All of my opponents are Space Marines so I rely heavily on Exorcists to open up the metal boxes and Divine Guidance to bring the pain. For your environment, I think an all-comer list will find the hand flamers more advantageous. Orks and Tyranids armies generally rely on alot of horde style troops that lack armour. In the case of the Eldar and Tau, they usually rely on transports or gunlines with Toughness 3 models that are easily wounded. If you tailor your lists per opponent, ie you know that you will be gaming off against a Templar player on Tuesday, then against the Marines you may find that the Inferno pistols will help out against the plethora of transports that most marine players bring to the field. Flamers are not as effective against toughness 4 without Divine Guidance. Also if the Orks generally run Walkers or the Tyranid generally run Warriors/Monstrous Creatures then the Infernos will give you some damage while flamers will largely go to waste. One thing about the Seraphim is that they do not have a model with Inferno Pistols, so in most cases opponents have no issue with 'count-as' by substituting the hand flamers model for an inferno equipped model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221500-need-some-help-starting-a-witch-hunters-army-suggestions/#findComment-2648705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Silva Posted February 6, 2011 Author Share Posted February 6, 2011 Would u suggest twin hand flamers? Or the twin inferno pistols? I play against tau templars orks nids and blood angels also eldar which one do u think would mess them up? Im leaning to the hand flamers but i want a second opinion before i put the money forth. I generally equip my Seraphim with the twin flamers for horde hunting and disembarked squad hunting. All of my opponents are Space Marines so I rely heavily on Exorcists to open up the metal boxes and Divine Guidance to bring the pain. For your environment, I think an all-comer list will find the hand flamers more advantageous. Orks and Tyranids armies generally rely on alot of horde style troops that lack armour. In the case of the Eldar and Tau, they usually rely on transports or gunlines with Toughness 3 models that are easily wounded. If you tailor your lists per opponent, ie you know that you will be gaming off against a Templar player on Tuesday, then against the Marines you may find that the Inferno pistols will help out against the plethora of transports that most marine players bring to the field. Flamers are not as effective against toughness 4 without Divine Guidance. Also if the Orks generally run Walkers or the Tyranid generally run Warriors/Monstrous Creatures then the Infernos will give you some damage while flamers will largely go to waste. The nid player i play against plays a mix of 3 or 4 mc and the rest little guys that run forward to diewhile the mcs come up behind to wipe the rest of the army.. So what i was thinking is a cannoness with BoHF and an inferno pistol with 7 to 10 sister strong squad of seriphem with 2 hand flamers BoHF plasma pist to go right through the little guys then a couple of dominions in hev flamer immolators with 4 meltas and plas pist to kill the bigger guys along with exorcists... Any suggestions? The ork player runs a couple mobs of boyz and deff copters with a support cannon unit for rhe smaller game that he plays.. And with the marine and eldar players the angels are running termis and the temp is a new to the army and the eldar wants to play wraithguard. Suggestions on how that should be tweeked? The immolaters hit the marines after the dominoins or the exorcist pop the vehicals. One thing about the Seraphim is that they do not have a model with Inferno Pistols, so in most cases opponents have no issue with 'count-as' by substituting the hand flamers model for an inferno equipped model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221500-need-some-help-starting-a-witch-hunters-army-suggestions/#findComment-2648941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarKHaZZ13 Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 at least 2 exoricsts. 20 more SoB and then whatever takes your fancy. i went with some retributors and melta toting command squad. and take a daemon hunter inquisitor ally! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221500-need-some-help-starting-a-witch-hunters-army-suggestions/#findComment-2648999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady_Canoness Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 I go with the handflamers on the Seraphim and use them as a bodyguard for my flying Canoness - together they make a great and iconic unit. To get some early games in, and find your feet with the army, I would suggest playing 400 point combat patrol. Its fun and lets you try out the strengths and weaknesses of your units in a smaller setting. My first CP was something like a minimum sized repentia squad (I'm nuts, but their holy rage is delicious!) a battle sister squad and a palatine (as well as perhaps something else... can't remember.... possibly an Immolator.) Good stuff - good fun. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221500-need-some-help-starting-a-witch-hunters-army-suggestions/#findComment-2649082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eremiel Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 I wish you had started your army earlier. It looks like GW removed all the boxed sets for Sisters. But with regard to what you already have, definitely go with an Exorcist as your next purchase, and listen gleefully as you announce your shots with it next battle and your opponent whines piteously. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221500-need-some-help-starting-a-witch-hunters-army-suggestions/#findComment-2650142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarKHaZZ13 Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 I wish you had started your army earlier. It looks like GW removed all the boxed sets for Sisters. But with regard to what you already have, definitely go with an Exorcist as your next purchase, and listen gleefully as you announce your shots with it next battle and your opponent whines piteously. "oh! look! another 6 from exorcist A and exorcist B....so 12 shots at the unit/tank!" hahaha. I love it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221500-need-some-help-starting-a-witch-hunters-army-suggestions/#findComment-2650216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvinmcsnatch Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 You will never go wrong with: Cannoness Tons of Sisters (meltas/heavy flamers for each squad Immolator kits 2 Exorcists I use Seraphim. I don't hate Seraphim. But I wouldn't suggest Seraphim until you get your core fleshed out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221500-need-some-help-starting-a-witch-hunters-army-suggestions/#findComment-2650684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Silva Posted February 8, 2011 Author Share Posted February 8, 2011 I wish you had started your army earlier. It looks like GW removed all the boxed sets for Sisters. But with regard to what you already have, definitely go with an Exorcist as your next purchase, and listen gleefully as you announce your shots with it next battle and your opponent whines piteously. I have already play tested some proxied exorcists and my friends have grown to hate them..especially my nid friend!! But when i started playing 40k i think like a couple months later gw took off the inquisition codexes off the site for purchase soo yea.. B) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221500-need-some-help-starting-a-witch-hunters-army-suggestions/#findComment-2650817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarKHaZZ13 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 its alright man....that means they're free on the web site ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221500-need-some-help-starting-a-witch-hunters-army-suggestions/#findComment-2650922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Silva Posted February 8, 2011 Author Share Posted February 8, 2011 its alright man....that means they're free on the web site :P true but i prefer having the book in front of me and hate having to print it off since its too much of a hassle to scroll up and down. Especially for the faith points :cuss Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221500-need-some-help-starting-a-witch-hunters-army-suggestions/#findComment-2651057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nias Wolf Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 By the way, I just looked at the GW website, and you can no longer buy standard Battle Sisters. I know they took down the boxed set, but they have now taken down the "buy three random ones" blister pack thing. Oddly enough, this might actually be good news. This is just my speculation, but it may mean plastic sisters. Reason I'm saying this is because you may have to wait to start your army. If that's the case, sorry buddy. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221500-need-some-help-starting-a-witch-hunters-army-suggestions/#findComment-2651189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 If the wait means plastic sisters sooner rather than later I don't think anyone will be sorry! :) On a more useful note, having a print out of the acts of faith page is one of the best things you can do for yourself and your opponent. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221500-need-some-help-starting-a-witch-hunters-army-suggestions/#findComment-2651459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarKHaZZ13 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 ahhh well just buy everything else in the meantime... your gonna need some exorcists....so buy whirlwinds + the forgeworld SoB icon = exorcists :) Buy and old copy of Ebay? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221500-need-some-help-starting-a-witch-hunters-army-suggestions/#findComment-2651466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvinmcsnatch Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 I just watched a 10 Sister box sell for $90 US last night... ouch. I remember when I was pissed I had to spend $38 per box - and the "new" Witch Hunters codex. "Where's the Sister's of Battle Codex?!" Also, online retailers are dumping their Exorcists/Immolators (Reduced price even!) And my local shop got a couple boxes of Seraphim in after not carrying them for X number of years. Is this an official purge or coincidence? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221500-need-some-help-starting-a-witch-hunters-army-suggestions/#findComment-2651828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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