Pistorius Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 It's not what you think...I have my hands full with my DA successors and Daemonhunters armies. I have no desire to begin another. However, I do have a copy of Space Hulk, and I'm getting the urge to give the models the attention they deserve. I don't want to go with the Blood Angels, as I find their all-red scheme rather boring, and because I like to be different. So, I decided to do a BA successor, allowing me to use the minis unmodified. I've come up with the following scheme, and I would like a little help creating some background info for the chapter. I'm not particularly tied to anything, as I have no intention of creating an actual army of these guys, but I want the background for the sake of completeness. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/jonishairy/Space%20Hulk/f7f90761.png Chapter Name: The Aggrieved Geneseed: Blood Angels Founding: Twelvth, late M33 Chapter Master: Alessandro Giuliani Homeworld: Lachrymosa Specialty: Close-Combat Battlecry: "They, too, shall grieve!" Estimated Strength: 900+ Battle Brothers and support staff Colors: Halved Purple and Bone White Symbol: A blue tear flanked by the wings of Sanguinus. What say you, fraters...Can you help me? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221504-another-blood-angels-successor/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generating Random Name... Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Chapter Name: This is where I need the most help. I am going to use the standard BA chapter symbol, substituting a blue tear for the typical drop of blood (representing mourning for the death of their Primarch, I guess). Some possible ideas I had were...Tears of Sanguinus/Emperor, Mourning Sons, Lamenters (oops, that one's taken), Grief Bearers, The Aggrieved, The Grievers. I'm kind of leaning towards Mourning Sons. I quite like the sound of "The Aggrieved" sorta rolls off the tongue, "Mourning Sons" to me just sounds like a time of day. Founding: What's a good one? This depends when spacehulk is set, or when you want it to be. Specialty: Close-Combat (They are subject to the Thirst/Rage) Good. Battlecry: Need something good here. I'm trying to think of one, but all i've got in my head is "Sharkbait Who Ha Ha" from Finding Nemo :rolleyes: Colors: Halved Purple and Bone White This is a cool scheme, simple but cool. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221504-another-blood-angels-successor/#findComment-2646336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistorius Posted February 4, 2011 Author Share Posted February 4, 2011 Thanks for the feedback, GRN. I like The Aggrieved, as well. I think I was leaning towards Mourning Sons because it's punny. Then again, perhaps it's not grimdark enough. I'm still up in the air on a name. I'm not sure when Space Hulk is supposed to be set...I'll have to skim through the rulebook again to see if I can find a point of reference, unless any of our esteemed brethren know off the top of their heads. I am planning on painting the dead Terminators as Blood Angels... No thanks on the Nemo quote! Maybe the battlecry will be easier when I have a name. Thanks again! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221504-another-blood-angels-successor/#findComment-2646358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague Angel Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 So far they don't seem that different from the other successors. If you like them fitting in, and want to keep strong ties to the BA, keep the Italian theme. If you want to make them more distinct, and don't care all that much about the BA themselves, drop Italy and find a different theme. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221504-another-blood-angels-successor/#findComment-2646575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistorius Posted February 4, 2011 Author Share Posted February 4, 2011 Yeah, I know they're kind of bland, but I wasn't really planning on digging too deeply on these guys. This is just a snapshot. I think I'll stick with the Italian names...I'm going to go with Alessandro Giuliani, after the protagonist in one of my favorite novels: A Soldier Of The Great War by Mark Helprin. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221504-another-blood-angels-successor/#findComment-2646828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octavulg Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Grief Bringers, maybe? Mourning Sons is OK. Sorrow or Loss might also work somewhere in there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221504-another-blood-angels-successor/#findComment-2646861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Love the colour scheme, there just aren't enough purple Chapters out there! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221504-another-blood-angels-successor/#findComment-2646898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacklight Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Mourning Fists? Fists of Sorrow? Angels of Sorrow? Angels of Loss? Fists of Loss? The Unbound? Just shooting some random names, take them as you please :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221504-another-blood-angels-successor/#findComment-2646899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurelius Rex Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Grief Bringers, maybe? Mourning Sons is OK. Best to avoid the first one as the Grief Bringers are an official GW chapter - from the Deathwing compilation novel - and have been masterfully fleshed out by Rogue Trader. :D Their IA is in the Librarium, and is a very good read. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221504-another-blood-angels-successor/#findComment-2646905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistorius Posted February 4, 2011 Author Share Posted February 4, 2011 Thanks for the suggestions, guys. I'm still mulling over the possibilities. Once the Chapter name falls into place, I think the rest will quickly follow. What do you guys think about Affliction Angels? Or maybe something like the Bitter Brotherhood? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221504-another-blood-angels-successor/#findComment-2646936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurelius Rex Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Hmmm... personally I'm not a fan of alliterative names. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221504-another-blood-angels-successor/#findComment-2646946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octavulg Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Best to avoid the first one as the Grief Bringers are an official GW chapter - from the Deathwing compilation novel - and have been masterfully fleshed out by Rogue Trader. smile.gif Their IA is in the Librarium, and is a very good read. Thought it sounded familiar. :lol: In regard to Bitter Brotherhood - no. Emphatically so. Affliction Angels I'm not a fan of, but it's better than Bitter Brotherhood. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221504-another-blood-angels-successor/#findComment-2646951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Angels of Mourning? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221504-another-blood-angels-successor/#findComment-2646971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistorius Posted February 4, 2011 Author Share Posted February 4, 2011 Angels of Mourning is not too bad. I know it's alliterative, but what about Sons of Sorrow? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221504-another-blood-angels-successor/#findComment-2647011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague Angel Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I'll repeat what I told Blackrat when he was trying to name his successor. Modifying it a bit to be more relevant. Again, this is just a coincidence I've noted. Angels of Prepositional Object sounds like a Dark Angels successor — Angels of Absolution, Angels of Redemption, Angels of Vengeance. Angels Predicate Adjective is more the style of the Blood Angels successors: Angels Sanguine, Angels Encarmine, Angels Vermillion. Does this apply to successors without "Angel" in the name? Dark Angels, maybe — Disciples of Caliban, Guardians of the Covenant. Blood Angels, no — their non-"Angel" successors seem to be verb-to-nouns: Flesh Eaters, Lamenters, Blood Drinkers. So you could go with something like the Angels Aggrieved, or simply The Afflicted. That said, "Angels of Mourning" sounds good. Just throwing other random things out there: the Angels Repentant, the Wailing Angels, the Sin Grievers? If "Flesh Tearers" wasn't taken, I'd recommend that or something similar for a subtle tear/tear pun. Dating Space Hulk is... iffy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221504-another-blood-angels-successor/#findComment-2647033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I rather like "The Aggrieved." Could make for some interesting battle cry like "Feel our pain!" Or, you could always go with The Weeping Angels http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Tukb4SnDqdE/S8zc...eping-angel.jpg Snazzy color scheme, by the way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221504-another-blood-angels-successor/#findComment-2647117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague Angel Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I was thinking it, thinking it, thinking it, but in the end I opted not to say it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221504-another-blood-angels-successor/#findComment-2647124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegnor Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 I like The Aggrieved. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221504-another-blood-angels-successor/#findComment-2647408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistorius Posted February 5, 2011 Author Share Posted February 5, 2011 Well, that makes three votes for The Aggrieved and I think it's not to bad myself. I think we have a winner, folks. Now, we just need a battlecry and a founding. Firepower has suggested "Feel our pain!". Any other suggestions? As for the founding...not sure what to do here. I haven't found a timeline for Space Hulk yet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221504-another-blood-angels-successor/#findComment-2647423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringlancer Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Feel our pain sounds so....emo. I imagine them laying around in dark rooms listening to the Cure. That conjures up images of people plaing Vampire the Maquerade. Not blood thirsty (literally!) Vampire Space Marines. (although I do like the Aggrieved name) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221504-another-blood-angels-successor/#findComment-2647462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 I rather like "The Aggrieved." Could make for some interesting battle cry like "Feel our pain!" Or, you could always go with The Weeping Angels http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Tukb4SnDqdE/S8zc...eping-angel.jpg Urgh, freaking hate those things! Give me Daleks and Cybermen anyday, just not the Weeping Angels... *shivers* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221504-another-blood-angels-successor/#findComment-2647660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Creepy ain't they? I'm having a hard time not ripping off the Vashtun-Neradda things for my Raven Guard successors ("Count the shadows! For God's sake, if you want to live, count the shadows!"). I wouldn't feel too bad about it, considering they ripped off another quote from that same episode for the DE Codex Mandrakes B) Back on topic, "Feel our pain!" does sound kind of emo, but there's a difference. Emo kids are whining about how painful life is because the one girlfriend they had 3 years ago broke up with them over their toe fungus and how painful and brutal a comfortable life in suburbia is on their tender souls (in other words, what pain do they have to whine about?). Sons of Sanguinus on the other hand experience the memory of the most tortuous, slow, and horrifying death imaginable time and again to the point it drives them insane, so it sort of takes the high pitched whininesss out of typically emo phrases. Still, there are alternatives. "His pain will be yours!" "His memory lives! His enemies die!" "Sacrifice eternal! etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221504-another-blood-angels-successor/#findComment-2647665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 The Angels... The Angels are coming for you... http://doctorwhotv.co.uk/wp-content/upload...s-5-570x320.jpg Hmm, that's a thought, I wonder what Sanguinary Guard would look like with their armour painted like marble? Make them look like moving statues... *evil plotting ensues* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221504-another-blood-angels-successor/#findComment-2647732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generating Random Name... Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Hmm, that's a thought, I wonder what Sanguinary Guard would look like with their armour painted like marble? Make them look like moving statues... *evil plotting ensues* I'm pretty sure some BA successors have their Sanguinary guard described as "Alabaster" so...White, might be Angels Sanguine Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221504-another-blood-angels-successor/#findComment-2647782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Hmm, that's a thought, I wonder what Sanguinary Guard would look like with their armour painted like marble? Make them look like moving statues... *evil plotting ensues* I'm pretty sure some BA successors have their Sanguinary guard described as "Alabaster" so...White, might be Angels Sanguine I don't mean ordinary white like the Angels Encarmine, I was thinking more along the lines of proper marble stone. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221504-another-blood-angels-successor/#findComment-2647784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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