The Son of Russ Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Am I correct in saying that the end of the universe would commence its demise in the 41000'th year? all codexes' history goes exactly up to the year 40999, so could this be an indicator to all of the codexes' histories meeting and ending? Discuss. Please. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221637-the-wolftime-the-rhana-dhandra-the-end/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashur Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 According to the rulebook, the galaxy is heading to the Time of Ending, which started with the arrival of the tyranids. We don't know if this mean the galaxy will have is Ragnarok (like SW and eldars expect) or if the Imperium will simply crumble. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221637-the-wolftime-the-rhana-dhandra-the-end/#findComment-2648076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freman Bloodglaive Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 It's a plot hook that allows GW to hammer in the desperation with which our little metal and plastic (and resin) models fight. There will never be an end of days unless GW can make money out of it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221637-the-wolftime-the-rhana-dhandra-the-end/#findComment-2648156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormbrow II Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 December 21st, 2012. Sorry, it had to be done. Am I correct in saying that the end of the universe would commence its demise in the 41000'th year? all codexes' history goes exactly up to the year 40999, so could this be an indicator to all of the codexes' histories meeting and ending? This is GW getting lazy. They've decided to keep everything at the end of the 41st millennium so they won't have to worry about advancing the storyline as the global campaigns left a sour taste in their collective mouths. Its much easier for them to remember dates and not worry about retcons even if they continually do it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221637-the-wolftime-the-rhana-dhandra-the-end/#findComment-2648621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonSTeR Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 It's a plot hook that allows GW to hammer in the desperation with which our little metal and plastic (and resin) models fight. There will never be an end of days unless GW can make money out of it. This is it in its entirety. If sales start to drop to a certain extent, maybe the return of Russ and the final demise (or return or re-unification) of the Eldar and the ... will boost sales enough to save the shareholders? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221637-the-wolftime-the-rhana-dhandra-the-end/#findComment-2649001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillen Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 See I have a different take on it. It goes in cycles. There will never be an end time for all. Maybe for the Lords of Terra. But the Imperium has suffered times of lose and come back from it. Think of it as a cycle of seasons. Things will get bad and then things will turn around. I am getting sick of all the negative fluff right now. Bores me. If I wanted to be goth I would be. I do not see 40k going far if it stays too goth. With the sky is falling and all is lost crap. Turns people off. Just like there was rebirths in the fluff I think it's time for a rebirth. But just like real life bad things have to happen before people are willing ti buckle down and do the hard work to bring about an age of enlightenment. And I think something bad will have to happen so the Empire of man can reform and begin it's rise to power. A new Crusade. That would spark some interest and make sells go up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221637-the-wolftime-the-rhana-dhandra-the-end/#findComment-2649762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wysten Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Indeed, one of the things that attaches me to the Space Wolves and Grey Knights is that it really does make the future look somewhat more oppomistic, that they will meet the end of all times with a glorious final stand and that their services and motives as their role as defenders and warrior is pure (as in, they fully recongise their duty and embrace it)rather then embrace factors that don't forfill the duty. I even like some of the fluff about the Ultra Marines that they managed to achieve a perfect ecosystem between farming, factories and lifestyle, yet there has been no attempt to replicate it anywhere else in this vast imperium, why? in a simliar way Black Templar are famious for breaking new ground, Lord Solar in the imperial guard codex... I just like reading postive contributions against the backdrop of a hard univerce full of hate without all this end time nonsense. I want to see it happen or for a series of battles during the 42rd era to really shape the apperance of the actual game itself. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221637-the-wolftime-the-rhana-dhandra-the-end/#findComment-2649830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thor1234 Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 I actually like the fluff at the moment, yes its dark, yes its gothic and yes everything is tittering on the edge of a knife, but as the fluff is pushing further towards the end of everything it also shows that all is not lost, Heroes are emerging from every corner, the Imperium have so many named characters who can turn the tide of battles, not least among the Sons of Russ, even the Tau and Eldar have theirr heroes, Prine Yriel for example....... but I agree that GW wont take it further unless there is money to be had....... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221637-the-wolftime-the-rhana-dhandra-the-end/#findComment-2649931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Son of Russ Posted February 7, 2011 Author Share Posted February 7, 2011 But the thing is the reason 40k is played is because of its backdrop, i mean as soon as you open the rulebook or read the blurb you are greeted with a really bleak and morbid outlook on what humanity has done to the universe. About everything is at war, and the astartes see the wrong they have caused and so have turned their views around, and no longer decide to crusade worlds and destroy civilisations because a great big golden man told them to. Instead they choose to build a sort of perimeter around the vast system of galaxies they own, to defend a corpse that is being kept alive for the 'good will' of humanity, where the matter of fact is he would be better off dying and returning, reincarnated. That is pretty much everything. The way i see it the astartes brought around there own demise by just being there. I also hate the way how rebellion is seen as chaotic. Probably gone alot off point here, but just saying that the reason i play 40k is that i see the astartes are trying to save everything they helped build. All races on the brink of annihilation, yes it is gothic, but it is what 40k is about. There will be a rebirth after everything has died, but what for? it'll only be consumed by chaos again. the game Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221637-the-wolftime-the-rhana-dhandra-the-end/#findComment-2650448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillen Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 LOL WHAT? Ok put downt he pipe and step away. No the legions were made cause they had to be. man kind did not do this to the universe. What is that crap. There are countless worlds with countless alien species. Of course GW only made like 7 but that is because they are lazy and it's hard to find themes for new races. Man kind mad it to the stars in the fluff. And had a civil war with.... Most say their machines. And this is why AIs are frowned on. They use humans for most things. Servators, and what not. In RogueTrader days the robots had living brains on par with dogs. So they could never turn on man kind again. And with our powers weakened, then the aliens attacked on all fronts to gain territory or regain territory lost to man kind. Man kind did not do jack but what every race is doing. Cause that is life. Expand breed grow or die. Look at the Hitler youth that is Tau. It's all for the greater good. Now hope in this meat ginder so our kids can eat you and use your land the way we see fit. And Legions have to camp now, cause Robert Guilliman disbanded the legions. Why? Well Hard to call yourself the High lord of Terra if you have 8 Brothers with almost the same power and just as awesome as you. The Imperium did this to it's self in a way. But they did not ruin the Galaxy. It's the same as always. Just Mankind is not doing as it did the first 2 times and crusading out. There Government is too big and spending money it does not have. Prehaps it can borrow the money from the Orks and get 17 trillion dollars indebt to them like the US did with China. They need a new Civil war for Mankind. So it can throw off the shackles of The Lords of Terra and get out of all the failed progams and burdening taxes. Then they can start doing the Emperor's Will again. Maybe Russ and Lion can kick it off. Maybe they could find a one handed Dorn and all go back to Earth and destroy the out of controls organizations that are ruining the Human worlds. Would be good for a story line and sells. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221637-the-wolftime-the-rhana-dhandra-the-end/#findComment-2650951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneSniperSG Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 December 21st, 2012. Sorry, it had to be done. Oh I'm so sick of seeing that crap.. I've seen many publications, codices or otherwise, that vaguely talk about the Time of Ending. There's no specifics, but any history or biology major can tell you exactly what will happen. Everything will crash and burn. The Imperium will fall. The cycle will end and start anew, probably with the Tau in power since they're so ignored. Life is nothing but one big washing machine of spinning cycles, man. Part of the problem behind the fall of the Imperium is bullcrap like this: "As a chapter, they are extremely xenophobic; they will not serve alongside abhumans, and due to the Imperial Guard's willingness to allow abhumans in their ranks, they view them as inferior and untrustworthy. " I didn't know it was high time to get all pious and stuck-up. Chapters with that kind of attitude ought to be exterminated before they screw up the greater survival plan for all the rest of us. The Emperor allows some liberties, that's why the Space Wolves exist. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221637-the-wolftime-the-rhana-dhandra-the-end/#findComment-2651834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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