rhunicus Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 In Galaxy in Flames, Cassar describes the Death Guard armor as gunmetal. Yet, on the cover (of both Galaxy in Flames and Flight of the Eisenstein) and in other fluff, the Death Guard are white and green. I was under the assumption that their armor was unpainted and the white color was just ceramite... Is the book wrong? Maybe it was just the certain company whose armor was gunmetal? Maybe I need to keep reading? (I am at the part where Angron and the rest of the legions are landing on Istvaan III and the loyalists are just starting to head to the castle for the last stand ). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221644-death-guard-armor-color/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandmaster Anaziel Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 As far as I understand Pre-Heresy Death Guard armor was a gunmetalish off white color with dark green trim. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221644-death-guard-armor-color/#findComment-2648175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boltergeist Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 They are typically a warm white with dark green trim. I've found the HH books to be fast and loose with their descriptions, but I'm pretty sure in Flight of the Eisenstein it is described correctly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221644-death-guard-armor-color/#findComment-2648186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandmaster Anaziel Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 They are typically a warm white with dark green trim. I've found the HH books to be fast and loose with their descriptions, but I'm pretty sure in Flight of the Eisenstein it is described correctly. Agreed. I think that their metalic white color could be described as gunmetal however. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221644-death-guard-armor-color/#findComment-2648191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominicus Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 According to the models shown on the Lexicanum website, Death Guard are shown as white with gold trim and green shoulder pauldrons, and a green backpack with dark grey exhausts Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221644-death-guard-armor-color/#findComment-2648193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhunicus Posted February 5, 2011 Author Share Posted February 5, 2011 I always thought gunmetal was a dark metallic grey...like Iron Warriors I'd call gunmetal. Guess I was wrong! I will just chalk it up to inconsistencies! C'est la vie. Slightly off topic: does Flight of the Eisenstein continue where Galaxy in Flames leaves off? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221644-death-guard-armor-color/#findComment-2648281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominicus Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 I always thought gunmetal was a dark metallic grey...like Iron Warriors I'd call gunmetal. Guess I was wrong! I will just chalk it up to inconsistencies! C'est la vie. Slightly off topic: does Flight of the Eisenstein continue where Galaxy in Flames leaves off? Flight of the Eisenstein is The first Istvaan III betrayal from the viewpoint of Death Guard Garro and Son of Horus Loken, but yes, it leaves off essentially where Galaxy in Flames did. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221644-death-guard-armor-color/#findComment-2648437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustermaker Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 you could paint it gun metal then drybrush it with white to get an interresting look. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221644-death-guard-armor-color/#findComment-2649024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Uriah Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 They are typically a warm white with dark green trim. I've found the HH books to be fast and loose with their descriptions, but I'm pretty sure in Flight of the Eisenstein it is described correctly. Agreed. I think that their metalic white color could be described as gunmetal however. White metal on the battlefield would prove tactically disasterous, even for Astartes, as it would up their "shoot me" factor to 11. Gunmetal is a relatively flat, dark metallic (in paint terms, think Boltgun Metal, though a true gunmetal is derived by the blueing on a firearm). The Death Guard were never noted for receiving a 10/10 on their bling factor. That said, Death Guard are typically described as white with green trim (white is another bad color for the battlefield, unless you're in the snow or looking to be noticed). The white on the Death Guards' armour is typically dirty, scratched and worn, as they were more concerned with function over form, and just didn't bother with the fastidious care for their armour that other Legions practiced. Plus, it's easier to blend into an environment when your clothes are filthy with it. The Death Guard were known throughout the Legions for their pragmatism and excellence as infantrymen. I have seen references that the First Company of the Death Guard eschews the Legion's typical white, heraldic coloration on their Terminator armour for bare metal (I have to look, but I think that this was mentioned in Prospero Burns, on Nikea). I'll have to check when I have the chance tonight. To me, this means that the Death Guard's First Company cared so little for ostentation that they didn't even bother to paint their armor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221644-death-guard-armor-color/#findComment-2655127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Uriah Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 I stand corrected, regarding the Death Guard's First Company. In Prospero Burns, Russ refers to Typhon, the Death Guard's First Captain, as "the handsome fellow in grey." So, not gunmetal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221644-death-guard-armor-color/#findComment-2655240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhunicus Posted February 17, 2011 Author Share Posted February 17, 2011 I stand corrected, regarding the Death Guard's First Company. In Prospero Burns, Russ refers to Typhon, the Death Guard's First Captain, as "the handsome fellow in grey." So, not gunmetal. Interesting....are there any other references to the first company's armor color? It could be like the Luna Wolves (Sons of Horus...whatever you wanna call em!) first company wearing all black.....like some sort of black legion.. :P Maybe whatever company was sent down to Istvaan III had a dark grey colored armor...that could maybe pass as gunmetal? Or perhaps the armor was so worn they just couldn't be bothered re-painting it? We all know how much Mortarion cared about painting things. Also, after doing a little research, it seems that the Grey Knights don't paint their armor, and their armor could be seen as gunmetal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221644-death-guard-armor-color/#findComment-2661730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Uriah Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Maybe, but I see the Grey Knights' armour as burnished... I don't see the Death Guard even deigning to bother with that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221644-death-guard-armor-color/#findComment-2662046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hengist Ironfang Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 The FotE describes the Death Guard armour as being Marble white with a green trim, I believe Mortarions bodyguard (forget their name off the top of my head) are unpainted metal and possibly the first company as well. IMHO Gunmetal is the colour of Boltgun Metal citadel colour. so a kind of steely grey colour. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221644-death-guard-armor-color/#findComment-2664561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khestra the Unbeheld Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 The FotE describes the Death Guard armour as being Marble white with a green trim, I believe Mortarions bodyguard (forget their name off the top of my head) are unpainted metal and possibly the first company as well. IMHO Gunmetal is the colour of Boltgun Metal citadel colour. so a kind of steely grey colour. Actual gunmetal is a blued steel, subdued and dark. Testor's and Reaper both make a gunmetal paint. Boltgun Metal is pure steel with no bluing, not quite what gunmetal is supposed to be. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221644-death-guard-armor-color/#findComment-2664569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchell93 Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 I stand corrected, regarding the Death Guard's First Company. In Prospero Burns, Russ refers to Typhon, the Death Guard's First Captain, as "the handsome fellow in grey." So, not gunmetal. Maybe whatever company was sent down to Istvaan III had a dark grey colored armor...that could maybe pass as gunmetal? I think they would have been sent down as squads like the sons of horus, to eliminate the units that would stay loyal to the emperor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221644-death-guard-armor-color/#findComment-2664679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hengist Ironfang Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 The FotE describes the Death Guard armour as being Marble white with a green trim, I believe Mortarions bodyguard (forget their name off the top of my head) are unpainted metal and possibly the first company as well. IMHO Gunmetal is the colour of Boltgun Metal citadel colour. so a kind of steely grey colour. Hmm I took it to be a literal gun metal colour rather than blue steel, The death guard despise ornamentation so I imagine unadorned power armour would look a steely colour, I know the official gunmetal colours you mean but I dont know any real guns that look that colour. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221644-death-guard-armor-color/#findComment-2665925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khestra the Unbeheld Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Hmm I took it to be a literal gun metal colour rather than blue steel, The death guard despise ornamentation so I imagine unadorned power armour would look a steely colour, I know the official gunmetal colours you mean but I dont know any real guns that look that colour. Every gun I've ever fired has been gunmetal. If you apply enough CLP or WD40 to it and scrape with a wire brush, the bluing actually comes off and you can see the raw metal beneath it, which is bright like Boltgun Metal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221644-death-guard-armor-color/#findComment-2665955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hengist Ironfang Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Sorry thats what i meant the blueish tint isnt the natural colouring of the metal Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221644-death-guard-armor-color/#findComment-2666373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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