Ecritter Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 First, why not just be the Heralds? You don't really have to be the 'of anything' chapter, it stands along nicely. Second, I hate halved and quartered schemes so my vote would be for #2 or #4 ... with #4 in the lead in my eyes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221651-starting-a-new-chapter/page/2/#findComment-2654019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Renatus Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 I stand firmly with Ecritter on this one. Not a huge fan of the first color palette, and the blue/white halved will draw comparisons to the Eagle Warriors (colors reversed) or Novamarines (quartered, but same colors). On the concept of more humane Astartes...as was pointed out in one of the guides, space marines aren't "nice." They are bred, trained, and equipped to destroy entire sectors if they are ordered to, without question or compromise. So the question you have to weigh carefully as you write this is, why did they become so concerned about the sanctity of human life? I ran into this going the other direction, trying to create a particularly ruthless chapter still loyal to the Imperium. May you succeed where I failed! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221651-starting-a-new-chapter/page/2/#findComment-2654073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octavulg Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 I quite like 1, 3 and 5. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221651-starting-a-new-chapter/page/2/#findComment-2654119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulse Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Definately 3 for the colour scheme! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221651-starting-a-new-chapter/page/2/#findComment-2654128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodWulf Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 I like 3 and 4. I like the colors and the schemes of both. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221651-starting-a-new-chapter/page/2/#findComment-2654329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Go for three, or it's not halved equivalent. Four, I think. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221651-starting-a-new-chapter/page/2/#findComment-2654597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Scytha Posted February 10, 2011 Author Share Posted February 10, 2011 I stand firmly with Ecritter on this one. Not a huge fan of the first color palette, and the blue/white halved will draw comparisons to the Eagle Warriors (colors reversed) or Novamarines (quartered, but same colors). On the concept of more humane Astartes...as was pointed out in one of the guides, space marines aren't "nice." They are bred, trained, and equipped to destroy entire sectors if they are ordered to, without question or compromise. So the question you have to weigh carefully as you write this is, why did they become so concerned about the sanctity of human life? I ran into this going the other direction, trying to create a particularly ruthless chapter still loyal to the Imperium. May you succeed where I failed! I'll assume that you mean design nr 5 with blue and white and note the blackish blue of 3 and 4 since both Eagle Warriors and Nova Marines blue is even lighter than Ultramarines. But I agree that's two other chapters nr. 5 resembles very closely. I can't understand why everyone assumes that just because a chapter is humanitarian that equates as nice and why space marines automatically should disregard the sanctity of human life? First of Sally's are a humanitarian chapter but they certainly isn't nice and cuddly. Secondly, humans are what space marines were created to protect so logically all marine chapters should balk at unnecessary killing of innocent humans. At least the sane ones should. Anyway, I put a concept of an IA for the yet unnamed chapter here: [Linky] BTW found a image of Neil Dutton's marines, you can decide for yourself it 3 and 4 is to close to be called original. http://wh40k.lexicanum.de/mediawiki/images/thumb/e/ef/Children_of_the_Light_Komm.jpg/716px-Children_of_the_Light_Komm.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221651-starting-a-new-chapter/page/2/#findComment-2654613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Renatus Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 You assumed correctly, I like #4. :) I'm all good with them being humanitarian. There is nothing stopping them from being so. I disagree with the part about them being created to safeguard humanity. While that is what they are forced to do, more or less, currently, they were designed to be the vanguard of the Emperor's Great Crusade; an expedition bent on reuniting all human inhabited planets, colonizing even more, and killing anything that didn't look like a human being. So while over the millenia your chapter may have become more humanitarian (and more power to them, I think it's an interesting theme to pursue), they will nonetheless be a bit of an abberation. Just like the Salamanders are. Because for every chapter like the Sallies or yours, there are 20 like the Black Templar or Flesh Tearers or Marines Malevolent who maintain their original design, genetically engineered killing machines stuffed into near impenetrable suits of ceramite and trained that obliterating entire planets or systems in the Emperor's name is okay. So, I encourage you...be different. Be the evolution of the Astartes into a more compassionate killer. I look forward to reading it!! :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221651-starting-a-new-chapter/page/2/#findComment-2654677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Scytha Posted February 11, 2011 Author Share Posted February 11, 2011 You assumed correctly, I like #4. ;) I'm all good with them being humanitarian. There is nothing stopping them from being so. I disagree with the part about them being created to safeguard humanity. While that is what they are forced to do, more or less, currently, they were designed to be the vanguard of the Emperor's Great Crusade; an expedition bent on reuniting all human inhabited planets, colonizing even more, and killing anything that didn't look like a human being. So while over the millenia your chapter may have become more humanitarian (and more power to them, I think it's an interesting theme to pursue), they will nonetheless be a bit of an abberation. Just like the Salamanders are. Because for every chapter like the Sallies or yours, there are 20 like the Black Templar or Flesh Tearers or Marines Malevolent who maintain their original design, genetically engineered killing machines stuffed into near impenetrable suits of ceramite and trained that obliterating entire planets or systems in the Emperor's name is okay. So, I encourage you...be different. Be the evolution of the Astartes into a more compassionate killer. I look forward to reading it!! :D Interesting point. Needs thinking about. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221651-starting-a-new-chapter/page/2/#findComment-2655090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Hunter Ydalir Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 I like numbers three and four. However GRIDDED, any other background just looks weird to me now. Also I like all the names forwarded by ringlancer, they are just so damn good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221651-starting-a-new-chapter/page/2/#findComment-2655428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Renatus Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 A few quick name ideas: - Liberators - Justicars - Justicars of Dorn - Heralds of Justice - Blades of Redemption (Spears, Swords work well here also) - Angels of Refuge - Angels of Solace - Heralds of Solace Hope they help. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221651-starting-a-new-chapter/page/2/#findComment-2655445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Scytha Posted February 11, 2011 Author Share Posted February 11, 2011 A few quick name ideas: - Liberators - Justicars - Justicars of Dorn - Heralds of Justice - Blades of Redemption (Spears, Swords work well here also) - Angels of Refuge - Angels of Solace - Heralds of Solace Hope they help. You telling me that no one have used any of these names?!?!? :P :eek ;) If not I'm calling them!!! :D Particularly, Angels of Solace. Here are some I came up with myself. Hell Knights Knights Hades Knights Gallant Hades Heralds. Doom Heralds Doom Knights Knights Liberators Knight Guardians Knights Justicars Imperial Knights Star Stalkers But if no one has used Angels of Solace that that's my favourite right now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221651-starting-a-new-chapter/page/2/#findComment-2655606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Renatus Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Angels of Solace they are then. I can find no chapter using that name either here or any of the other forums I know of. Most of us come here to kill stuff, lol, not save it. So I imagine you're safe with that name. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221651-starting-a-new-chapter/page/2/#findComment-2655640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Besides which as long as their isn't a fluffed out GW Chapter by that name it doesn't actually matter. No one owns a name.. Unless they copyright it :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221651-starting-a-new-chapter/page/2/#findComment-2655652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 I'm going to guess no one's mentioned 'Purifiers'. If not, I recommend it. A lot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221651-starting-a-new-chapter/page/2/#findComment-2655901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Scytha Posted February 12, 2011 Author Share Posted February 12, 2011 Angels of Solace they are then. I can find no chapter using that name either here or any of the other forums I know of. Most of us come here to kill stuff, lol, not save it. So I imagine you're safe with that name.' LoL. I'm so making a salvation army Space Marine after this. But I agree that Angles of solace doesn't have that martial feel associated with space marines. I still like the funeral sound of it. Have narrowed the name down to a following list. In the order of favourites: 1. Angels of solace. 2. Doom Knights. 3. Star Stalkers. 4. Knights Justicars 5. Knights Hades. Have settled on a colour scheme though. Number 3. While I like both 3 and 4, the Halved scheme is less likely to be mixed up with Neil Dutton's Children of the Light's quartered scheme so I'm going with the halved. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221651-starting-a-new-chapter/page/2/#findComment-2656494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Renatus Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Color scheme should be cool to see. On the names: - Knights of Solace is also an option - It should be Knights Justicar...omit the last "s" - Knights Hades is very *meh* IMHO. Guys with hell in their name providing TLC to people? And it doesn't roll off the tongue. On the martial nature of the name: - The Angels of Absolution are a DA successor...if you didn't know about the Unforgiven it's not a particularly imposing name. Then they drop a couple dozen bone white and green Termies on your head. The name is just that...a name. Legends are built on actions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221651-starting-a-new-chapter/page/2/#findComment-2656583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Scytha Posted February 13, 2011 Author Share Posted February 13, 2011 On the martial nature of the name:- The Angels of Absolution are a DA successor...if you didn't know about the Unforgiven it's not a particularly imposing name. Then they drop a couple dozen bone white and green Termies on your head. The name is just that...a name. Legends are built on actions. Point. At the moment I'm dithering between Angels of Solace that is more poetic and full of imagery and Doom Knights which is more traditional. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221651-starting-a-new-chapter/page/2/#findComment-2657708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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